Plastic or steel cable tie for solar cables under solar panels

[Pink7]

Plastic or steel cable tie for solar cables under solar panels. What is the best option?

 

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[samuttodd]

Use both.   

[Pink7]

1 minute ago, samuttodd said:

Use both.   

Double them? Use on same spots?

 

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[samuttodd]

Why not?

 

 

The ozone here degrades many plastics, not sure if your ties are plastic or nylon...  The white ones are often nylon,  which holds up better than the plastic ones.

 

 

[Pink7]

24 minutes ago, samuttodd said:

Why not?

 

 

The ozone here degrades many plastics, not sure if your ties are plastic or nylon...  The white ones are often nylon,  which holds up better than the plastic ones.

 

 

Im on my way to order now, i see the one i looking is nylon, so i guess in going for nylon and stainless steel than, thanks for your advices.

 

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[OneMoreFarang]

9 minutes ago, Pink7 said:

Im on my way to order now, i see the one i looking is nylon, so i guess in going for nylon and stainless steel than, thanks for your advices.

 

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Nylon should be good for a long time. I would use that.

If you check in a year and you see that there is a problem you can still buy something else.

 

And nylon is no conductor, which is obviously a big plus for anything that is near to electric cables. 

 

 

[degrub]

Black coloured ties should have the highest UV degradation resistance. 

[problemfarang]

use white nylon

[degrub]

Just curious, why white nylon ?

[Muhendis]

Are you not using some of these?

They clip to the edge of the panel for holding the cables up nice and tidy.

[Crossy]

4 hours ago, Muhendis said:

Are you not using some of these?

 

Those look handy, U got a link to a local seller?

 

Zillions of "overseas" sellers on Lazada.

 

[MJCM]

16 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

Those look handy, U got a link to a local seller?

 

Zillions of "overseas" sellers on Lazada.

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/i1238512596-s2972310428.html

[Muhendis]

Also at Global house but three times Lazada price.

[Photoguy21]

15 hours ago, samuttodd said:

Why not?

 

 

The ozone here degrades many plastics, not sure if your ties are plastic or nylon...  The white ones are often nylon,  which holds up better than the plastic ones.

 

 

Do you mean Ozone (Comes from the sea primarily) or Ultra VIolet from the sun?

[Pink7]

4 hours ago, Muhendis said:

Are you not using some of these?

They clip to the edge of the panel for holding the cables up nice and tidy.

That look like a good option.. If i understand correct the can be placed anywhere on the frame.. 

 

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[Pink7]

27 minutes ago, MJCM said:

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/i1238512596-s2972310428.html

Thanks for the link.. Here is another option sold  at B5 per piece:

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/bec-hq-cc01cable-clip-thunelectric-sss-i2443058466-s8465152005.html

 

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[007 RED]

14 hours ago, degrub said:

Black coloured ties should have the highest UV degradation resistance. 

As per the OP... Under Solar Panels... so they will be in the shade/dark and little if any UV degradation is likely to occur, so colour is not important.

[ThaiFelix]

15 hours ago, samuttodd said:

Why not?

 

 

The ozone here degrades many plastics, not sure if your ties are plastic or nylon...  The white ones are often nylon,  which holds up better than the plastic ones.

 

 

Back home in Oz the black ones were UV treated whereas the white arent.  Here I enclosed an area (in full sun) with plastic mesh and a good brand black cable ties.  After 5 years the cable ties were failing all over.  I dont know if its the sun or the UV treatment here but not much in plastic lasts if in full sun here.  Correct me if Im wrong but I believe the UV is higher in Australia than here.  I would use the stainless steel if affordable.

 

(edit oops we must have been writing same time, sorry)

[Muhendis]

19 minutes ago, Pink7 said:

If i understand correct the can be placed anywhere on the frame..

Yes.

Or any where else where the metal is ≤2.5mm thick.

[PR3]

I used some of these type on projects and found them good.

Rubber coated and stainless so best of both worlds if you really want to use a cable tie and are looking for a decent life span and not to harm the cable sheath.

 

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[problemfarang]

16 hours ago, degrub said:

Just curious, why white nylon ?

white deflects the light so it wont overheat. 

thats why people use black in winter (to get more sunshine) and white in summer (to reflect sunlight)

its also what they teach you in 1st or 2nd grade at school... dont know they teach in the usa or not. thats a way to save energy and use it better way

[Pink7]

On 1/3/2023 at 9:26 AM, Muhendis said:

Are you not using some of these?

They clip to the edge of the panel for holding the cables up nice and tidy.

I got 80 pieces of this today. They are very firm so i have some issues to get them on my panels who have a lip on the inner side of the frame. But with a plyer and a rubber hammer I'm able to get them on and firm enough to hold ok. The side for cable is almost closed so for ready made cables on the panel there is some struggle to get a cable inside, but i will test with a thin round plyers to open then close it again when cable inside.. So maybe a little extra work but it will also last long.

[Pink7]

1 hour ago, Pink7 said:

I got 80 pieces of this today. They are very firm so i have some issues to get them on my panels who have a lip on the inner side of the frame. But with a plyer and a rubber hammer I'm able to get them on and firm enough to hold ok. The side for cable is almost closed so for ready made cables on the panel there is some struggle to get a cable inside, but i will test with a thin round plyers to open then close it again when cable inside.. So maybe a little extra work but it will also last long.

I give them some try now, but for my panels they not fit well and there take much luck to get it in place in a good way, so its not a solution to deal with on top of the roofing, so  I guess I'm going with nylon strips then.