FritsSikkink Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, JoseThailand said: Why are you doing the prosecutor's job? The are a lot of circumstances. She must get a lawyer to defend herself in the best possible way. Of course I feel sorry for the deceased person and his family, but making the poor woman a scapegoat will not serve anything. Poor woman / scapegoat? In broad daylight she drove over somebody, continued driving, not looking for help. If there was a cone most likely she wouldn't have seen that too. The worker should get sympathy, not an idiot in a car. Edited January 13, 2023 by FritsSikkink 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritScot Posted January 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2023 8 hours ago, gerritkaew said: I see the clip also, and I can’t believe she not see him. Iff you a small person okay but she is a big lady. She must have seen the road in front of her !! And the painter,, he not hear a car coming ? It’s not an electric car, unbelievably to see. only in Thailand.. rip mister. I've not seen the video but from the photo and the fact she was turning into the barrier it looks like he was very much in her blind spot. Try sitting in a car and take a short stick of about 15/20 inches stick it in the ground then drive and stop when you don't see it and I'm sure you will find it's about 1.5 to 2 metres from the car thus meaning that's your blind spot. You would be surprised at how many blind spots you have around your vehicle and even motorbikes have blind spots. Also thai roads aren't the smoothest. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shackleton Posted January 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2023 I think the lady concerned has enough problems sorting this tragic accident out Don't think it was intentional She has to live with this for the rest of her life RIP to the guy 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, shackleton said: I think the lady concerned has enough problems sorting this tragic accident out Don't think it was intentional She has to live with this for the rest of her life RIP to the guy Entirely agree. There may be no explanation/excuse for what she did but she'll regret it for the rest of her life. We've all done things we can't believe why we did them at the time but, fortunately, the outcome is usually much less serious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy42OZ Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 16 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Really? There are at least three issues here. a) she collided with a human on the street b) she drove over him, maybe with two wheels one after the other c) she didn't stop after that IMHO b) and c) are the real bad parts. It is impossible to drive over "something that big" and not notice it. And then it is criminal to not at least look what just happened. Guilty! How do you know the wheels went over him? Maybe he went between the wheels and she really didn't feel any bump so why would she stop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Wow, hard to imagine how she missed seeing him at the low speed she was traveling. She must be a shocking driver and a danger to anyone on the roads. He is partially responsible for painting in the middle of the accessway and not maintaining a general awareness of vehicles that might enter. RIP to him and I hope she can forgive herself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Freddy42OZ said: How do you know the wheels went over him? Maybe he went between the wheels and she really didn't feel any bump so why would she stop. And why would he die if the wheels didn't touch him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandGuy Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 How can she not see this man? Where was she looking at? And how can you not notice driving over someone? The car must have shaken !! This is bizar! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbra Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 59 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: And why would he die if the wheels didn't touch him? Did you not notice the road clearance of the car she was driving,probably 8 inches max and the guy was probably dragged over the speed hump he was painting ,road clearance here would be 4 or 5 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 On 1/12/2023 at 6:56 PM, billd766 said: Plus cones to cordon off the painted area. Or at least some tree branches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 8 hours ago, sateuk said: 11 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: Unmitigated garbage. Thais run away from accidents all the time FACT No, that is not a "fact", it's b0ll0cks. A very small percentage may have done that but the Thai people do not do that "all the time" as matter of course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: And why would he die if the wheels didn't touch him? Crushed or dragged by the metal bits between the wheels.... rear differential is usually low. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 39 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Crushed or dragged by the metal bits between the wheels.... rear differential is usually low. I guess that is the reason why she didn't notice that she killed a guy: Officer, I didn't touch him with the wheels of the car. I dragged him with the rear differential. I had to put the put the foot on the gas, but I did it. Sorry, I know there is nothing to laugh about this situation. But however she killed him pretending she didn't notice is just BS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: No, that is not a "fact", it's b0ll0cks. A very small percentage may have done that but the Thai people do not do that "all the time" as matter of course. Thai's themselves admit they do it. They're not bragging or making excuses, just stating that is what they (Thai) people normally do when faced with similar situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh Jones Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: I guess that is the reason why she didn't notice that she killed a guy: Officer, I didn't touch him with the wheels of the car. I dragged him with the rear differential. I had to put the put the foot on the gas, but I did it. Sorry, I know there is nothing to laugh about this situation. But however she killed him pretending she didn't notice is just BS. She was probably too dense to comprehend what was going on. She sensed some resistance so she pushed the gas harder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted January 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/12/2023 at 7:33 PM, richard_smith237 said: Not to remove any blame from the driver, she is clearly 100% at fault here for hitting a stationary ‘pedestrian’ - I can’t think of any mitigating circumstance.... But, many people in this world are completely unaware of the risks they places themselves in - it is a daily occurrence here were I see someone ‘dangerously in the line of fire’.... Indeed it is. Been driving here for years and one needs to be on the constant lookout. Recently close to taking out a telecoms guy up his bamboo ladder which was right out into the carriageway with no-one footing it and no bollard or rag etc. She isn't 100% at fault, more 50/50 as the poor guy is crouching down in the path with zero warning. Her line of site is skewed. Folk calling it murder, baying for blood... get a grip. How long have you been here? This kind of incident can happen to anyone at any time. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextG Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 20 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: Poor woman / scapegoat? In broad daylight she drove over somebody, continued driving, not looking for help. If there was a cone most likely she wouldn't have seen that too. The worker should get sympathy, not an idiot in a car. Have you actually been to the scene? I am guessing that you have not. It’s an awkward turn. Though I’m not sure as to how the barrier is activated nor what she was thinking when something was not as expected. Either way, a tragedy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, daveAustin said: This kind of incident can happen to anyone at any time. No it can’t - It can happen to someone not paying attention, not looking where they are going. IF it happened to me, its because I wasn’t looking where I was going in broad daylight... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, NextG said: Have you actually been to the scene? I am guessing that you have not. It’s an awkward turn. Though I’m not sure as to how the barrier is activated nor what she was thinking when something was not as expected. Either way, a tragedy. Do we need to be at the scene to identify that the lady ran slowly over a person in the road in broad daylight ? - there is no mitigating circumstance here, she make a fatal mistake either through inattention or through poor eyesight etc... The guy shouldn’t have been there, but he was - that in no way or form removes any blame or fault from the person who failed to look where they were driving. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomchop Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 so did anyone do a blood test for booze or drugs? It would seem that would be done immediately by the police for an event like this where someone died. Bad enough that she killed the guy....even worse if drugged up...but without test done quickly guess nobody will know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, The Fugitive said: 16 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: No, that is not a "fact", it's b0ll0cks. A very small percentage may have done that but the Thai people do not do that "all the time" as matter of course. Thai's themselves admit they do it. They're not bragging or making excuses, just stating that is what they (Thai) people normally do when faced with similar situations. "...just stating that is what they (Thai) people normally do..." No, what you are doing is wrongly asserting a generalised action by all Thais for which you have no evidence except a handful of reported cases where it has happened. That would be what an infinitesimal percentage of all Thais have done. If you have some evidence that Thais generally do that then lets see it, if you haven't any evidence (and hearsay isn't evidence) your comment is factually nonsense. Edited January 14, 2023 by Liverpool Lou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbra Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 hours ago, NextG said: Have you actually been to the scene? I am guessing that you have not. It’s an awkward turn. Though I’m not sure as to how the barrier is activated nor what she was thinking when something was not as expected. Either way, a tragedy. The barrier???? From the still pic the barrier has risen maybe halfway,given that she is still negotiating her turn and is nowhere near the vehicle detection zone,it necessarily follows that it was raised manually,ergo security guy is not at toilet as he alleges but in the guard house operating the barrier in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NextG Posted January 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, norbra said: The barrier???? From the still pic the barrier has risen maybe halfway,given that she is still negotiating her turn and is nowhere near the vehicle detection zone,it necessarily follows that it was raised manually,ergo security guy is not at toilet as he alleges but in the guard house operating the barrier in my opinion Did the security guard state he was otherwise disposed or was that the worker’s colleague? If the driver does not activate the gate, then how did it open? Because without it opening the driver would have stopped. The gate opening on approach would suggest ‘all clear’ to the driver, It’s all really unfortunate. I would not be so quick to blame the driver. The ones shouting the loudest should get themselves to the scene to survey the landscape for themselves before continuing on with their crusade. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Teavee Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 7 hours ago, NextG said: Have you actually been to the scene? I am guessing that you have not. It’s an awkward turn. Though I’m not sure as to how the barrier is activated nor what she was thinking when something was not as expected. Either way, a tragedy. The fact that it is an awkward turn which cannot be taken at speed should have given her more opportunity to see the guy in the road however it does look like he would be on her blind side as she's making the turn & if you watch the video you can see that the barrier is down when she starts to turn in & then raised (guessing by a Security Guard as she is nowhere near an automatic sensor) which presumably made her think it was OK to proceed straight ahead. https://thepattayanews.com/2023/01/12/australian-woman-runs-over-and-kills-street-painter-in-pattaya/ Tragic Accident... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, NextG said: The ones shouting the loudest should get themselves to the scene to survey the landscape for themselves before continuing on with their crusade. And those defending the driver perhaps need to look inwards and wonder why they are defending someone who ran over another person while going slowly in broad daylight. 17 minutes ago, NextG said: The gate opening on approach would suggest ‘all clear’ to the driver, Wrong - nothing being in front of you suggests ‘all clear’ to a driver !!! If a barrier opens but there is a child stood there - its clearly not ‘all clear’.... The link is below - it seems impossible that the driver could not see the driver... she obviously wasn’t looking, was distracted, on the phone etc... but even after that she didn't notice... thats just extremely odd.... Someone mentioned she should have been tested for drugs and I’d agree... she should definitely be tested for benzodiazepine’s etc... https://thepattayanews.com/2023/01/12/australian-woman-runs-over-and-kills-street-painter-in-pattaya/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextG Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said: And those defending the driver perhaps need to look inwards and wonder why they are defending someone who ran over another person while going slowly in broad daylight. Wrong - nothing being in front of you suggests ‘all clear’ to a driver !!! If a barrier opens but there is a child stood there - its clearly not ‘all clear’.... The link is below - it seems impossible that the driver could not see the driver... she obviously wasn’t looking, was distracted, on the phone etc... but even after that she didn't notice... thats just extremely odd.... Someone mentioned she should have been tested for drugs and I’d agree... she should definitely be tested for benzodiazepine’s etc... https://thepattayanews.com/2023/01/12/australian-woman-runs-over-and-kills-street-painter-in-pattaya/ Visit first, open mouth afterwards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post retayl Posted January 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2023 I cannot believe the vitriol aimed at this woman on here. If you look at the photo she swung round the corner and the poor man seems to be in her blind spot (right hand drive), he was virtually lying on the ground <deleted>! People on here are basically calling her a psychopath. The fact of her continuing to drive afterwards is somewhat academic - the damage had been done. 2 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricky Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, retayl said: I cannot believe the vitriol aimed at this woman on here You're a newbie. Hang around, lots of vitriol here.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JensenZ Posted January 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/12/2023 at 11:22 PM, still kicking said: Any civilised country there would not be someone on the road. without warning signs or even warning lights I don't blame the women Accidents don't have to be one or the other party's full responsibility. In this case, they had a shared responsibility. She is not 100% to blame here, but probably over 50%. It looks like the painter was in her blind spot covered by her left window pillar. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JensenZ Posted January 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/13/2023 at 4:18 PM, Freddy42OZ said: How do you know the wheels went over him? Maybe he went between the wheels and she really didn't feel any bump so why would she stop. It's obvious in the video, which stops short just before impact, that he went under between the wheels. It was probably head injuries caused by the undercarriage that killed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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