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UK; Girl,7, in a critical condition after shooting outside funeral injures six people

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10 hours ago, 2009 said:

I am interested to know the nationality and immigration status for the shooter.

Why?

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11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I think me means the suspected nationality of the shooters is not being reported on the BBC main news page...

... most likely because its completely unknown....  This ‘immigration / ethnic minority’ discussion is completely moot until more is know and only points to the negative bias of some of the posters making such comments. 

There really should be a description of the shooter  , he could be hiding out in a bar in Pattaya and some posters could keep an eye out for him and call the police if they see him ?

17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

BBC UK main news headline. You mention RIP to all the victims?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk

I heard at least one died. If that is incorrect (and I hope so)  then I will gladly revise RIP to "my sympathy".

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

There really should be a description of the shooter  , he could be hiding out in a bar in Pattaya and some posters could keep an eye out for him and call the police if they see him ?

Hiding in Pattaya?

 

If the shooter was white, with a shaved head, bad tattoos and a chang vest I am sure that information would be released by now. 

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Not on mine. The Nepal plane crash and china covid deaths. Plus something about Indian farmers.

 

 

It’s on the front page of main news which includes all world news events. 
 

on U.K. news page it’s the headline item. 

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I heard at least one died. If that is incorrect (and I hope so)  then I will gladly revise RIP to "my sympathy".

Click the link i posted. The article was updated 1 hour ago

13 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Why?

Well, a lot of crimes can easily be avoided with a better immigration policy.

Good news, an arrest has been made. 

 

Euston shooting: Man, 22, arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after 'drive-by' outside church

The Metropolitan Police said a 22-year-old man was arrested after a car was stopped in Cricklewood Lane, Barnet, shortly before 4pm on Sunday.

He has been taken into custody.

https://news.sky.com/story/euston-shooting-man-22-arrested-over-drive-by-after-church-memorial-service-12787545

32 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Good news, an arrest has been made. 

 

Euston shooting: Man, 22, arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after 'drive-by' outside church

The Metropolitan Police said a 22-year-old man was arrested after a car was stopped in Cricklewood Lane, Barnet, shortly before 4pm on Sunday.

He has been taken into custody.

https://news.sky.com/story/euston-shooting-man-22-arrested-over-drive-by-after-church-memorial-service-12787545

Great news. I cant imagine the perp was any kind of genius.

 

I can't find any information on the suspect though. I wonder why? Doesn't fit the narrative?

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Great news. I cant imagine the perp was any kind of genius.

 

I can't find any information on the suspect though. I wonder why? Doesn't fit the narrative?

Once again the ‘conspiracy of silence’ conspiracy stalks the thread.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Once again the ‘conspiracy of silence’ conspiracy stalks the thread.

 

 

Eh.....:unsure:

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Great news. I cant imagine the perp was any kind of genius.

 

I can't find any information on the suspect though. I wonder why? Doesn't fit the narrative?

What narrative do people want this to fit ???

 

It turns out the Husband and father of the two women who’s memorial service it was is a convicted member of the Cali drug cartel.... 

 

It seems some want to associate race or immigration issues with this shooting and are getting bent out of shape that the news is not fitting their bias.... 

 

This looks more like it could have been cartel related - someone sending a very strong message. 

 

 

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

We will see who gets caught for this crime, but I strongly suspect a 1st or 2nd generation migrant.

I get the impression you want it to be an immigrant.....   (or 1st / 2nd gen migrant) - You seem to need this information to justify the racial bias you are carrying.

 

 

IF we are sticking our necks out - I suspect we’ll find out the shooter is Columbian or linked to Columbian cartel somehow. 

 

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32 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Great news. I cant imagine the perp was any kind of genius.

 

I can't find any information on the suspect though. I wonder why? Doesn't fit the narrative?

What narrative? 

15 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I get the impression you want it to be an immigrant.....   (or 1st / 2nd gen migrant) - You seem to need this information to justify the racial bias you are carrying.

No, actually on the contrary: I wish Britain had migrants that were beneficial to the country.

 

Like the previous migrants who came to integrate, work, and support themselves honestly: Irish, Italian, Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, for example.

 

The new wave of migrants are quite different aren't they?

 

Racial bias? Just look at the statistics on migrant crime. You can do that objectively, right?

 

And what's your bias? Do you have one?

 

15 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

IF we are sticking our necks out - I suspect we’ll find out the shooter is Columbian or linked to Columbian cartel somehow. 

 

Well, no <deleted>. 

 

You didn't think it would be a young lad from Kent, did you? 

 

Or a Chinese medical student?

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2 hours ago, 2009 said:

Well, a lot of crimes can easily be avoided with a better immigration policy.

Yeah, right...

 

More could be avoided by tackling the root causes of inequality and why there is crime...but you don't want to know about that do you.

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Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s an internal head thing.

Seems to me some people are more concerned about the nationality of the shooter than the actual victims and getting justice, one of them has suffered a life changing injury and others in serious condition, do we know their nationality? No, its not a concern as its no concern the nationality of the the person arrested at this time. That news will filter through at a later stage. Its as if they are saying its being deliberately withheld. Sad world.

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2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Yeah, right...

 

More could be avoided by tackling the root causes of inequality and why there is crime...but you don't want to know about that do you.

Exactly.... perhaps too locked into racist thinking to open his eyes and look at underlying root causes of social issues....   ‘blaming immigrants’ is the easy way for people lacking the intelligence to think deeper on this subject and they end up quoting incomplete and partial facts and truths to fit sweeping generalisations.....   the reality that plenty of immigrants commit crime does not equate to all or most committing crime, the same can be said of anyone in a socially-economic destitute demographic.

 

.... I wonder if 2009 considers himself an Immigrant to Thailand ??....  that elephant in the the room is currently giving him [2009] quite the facial !!!!... 

 

 

 

 

 

Americans have a strong need to prove that carrying a gun makes them a man. It tends to make up for their insecurity.

The myth of good guys with guns imploded at Uvalde.

The UK population wanted gun control but didn't ban guns. Hence there are gun incidents still, but as other posters mentioned, it is rare. 

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37 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What narrative? 

I'm glad you asked.

 

The narrative that all immigration is wonderful.

 

Multiculturalism is wonderful.

 

Globalism is wonderful.

 

The nation state is an outdated racist idea.

 

Meanwhile in reality the West (and in particular the UK) is importing all kinds of issues onto it's own shores. And all so white liberals can slap each others backs about their virtue at Champagne sipping dinner parties in Islington.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I'm glad you asked.

 

The narrative that all immigration is wonderful.

 

Multiculturalism is wonderful.

 

Globalism is wonderful.

 

The nation state is an outdated racist idea.

 

Meanwhile in reality the West (and in particular the UK) is importing all kinds of issues onto it's own shores. And all so white liberals can slap each others backs about their virtue at Champagne sipping dinner parties in Islington.

 

 

You should start a thread on that.

 

The triggered  insertion of immigrants/immigration into this thread was none of the off topic list you’ve posted.

 

It was simply dragging immigrants and immigration trolling into the thread.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Americans have a strong need to prove that carrying a gun makes them a man. It tends to make up for their insecurity.

The myth of good guys with guns imploded at Uvalde.

The UK population wanted gun control but didn't ban guns. Hence there are gun incidents still, but as other posters mentioned, it is rare. 

To be fair, some Americans, by no means all.

On 1/15/2023 at 11:26 AM, richard_smith237 said:

What confirmation bias are you looking for ?

 

Drive by shooting... Columbian hit ?

In London now, you never know?

scary <deleted>...shooting up a funeral/memorial..no class crims

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5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I'm glad you asked.

 

The narrative that all immigration is wonderful.

 

Multiculturalism is wonderful.

 

Globalism is wonderful.

 

The nation state is an outdated racist idea.

 

Meanwhile in reality the West (and in particular the UK) is importing all kinds of issues onto it's own shores. And all so white liberals can slap each others backs about their virtue at Champagne sipping dinner parties in Islington.

 

 

Back to this tragic case. Would'nt you like to know if this person gets charged first? Or does your narrative not include that detail? If he does get chargec his name will be released. You can then carry on about immigration till your heart is content. If he happens to fit your bias.

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5 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

In London now, you never know?

Not knowing is not a basis for baseless speculation of an inflammatory nature.

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31 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Not knowing is not a basis for baseless speculation of an inflammatory nature.

It’s not a rational basis, but as we do often see, and as is demonstrated in this thread, not knowing is precisely the seed of conspiracy mongering and baseless speculation.

 

 

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