Daily News Thai Caption: Cruel caretaker!!

 

Daily News followed up after a post on a "So You Wanna Be Famous" page online was widely commented upon.

 

It featured an 8 year old child in primary grade three currently in Rueso Hospital because a caretaker of a dormitory at a school - not a teacher - made a group of kids do hundreds of sit-ups as a punishment after someone left a tap running.

 

The child was left unable to urinate or walk after suffering damage to his liver and kidneys.

 

At the hospital in Narathiwat, in the far south of Thailand, reporters met the child's 33 year old mother at his bedside. 

 

She said her son came home last Friday unable to walk and suffering from swelling.

 

Shocked, she referred the matter to Pol Capt Seksan Reuangrit of the Rueso police who are waiting on medical reports before proceeding in the case.

 

The father said no one had owned up about the tap so everyone was punished. He intends to have the matter prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

Hospital director Dr Samsuddeen Hama said that the boy would be in their care for a while but was improving. If there were continued problems then they would consult at the main Narathiwat Nakharin Hospital.

 

Tests would need to be done to see if the boy had any underlying health issues.

 

The school director, unnamed in this report, said that there are 760 pupils at the school 168 of whom were boarders. 

 

He planned to meet the parents. He confirmed that 21 students were punished by the caretaker who demanded 500 sit-ups but most of the kids barely did 100.

 

Only one child had a problem.

 

But he said that the caretaker involved had been spoken to about excessive punishment and would be disciplined. 

 

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Terrible how this keeps happening. It's either on one end, absolutely no discipline and the kids run amok, or all the way at the other end, where it's boot camp. They can't seem to find the middle ground.

"But he said that the caretaker involved had been spoken to about excessive punishment and would be disciplined. " ?

 

Out of a job surely?

I'd be looking for a good law firm ASAP to lodge a giant lawsuit and take those cruel monsters to the cleaners...

46 minutes ago, webfact said:

But he said that the caretaker involved had been spoken to about excessive punishment and would be disciplined. 

I hope it entails a lot more than a slap on the wrist , who knows what

future problems this little kid will have...

 

regards Worgeordie

It is just child abuse.... Why are people giving these young kids 300 sit ups or more?? They have no brains even for a adult it is very much...Severe punishment for this man and of course fire him....never get a job again...It is not an single case apparently.. he gave kids severe punishments before.. Brave kid that he could do the 300... but still

1 hour ago, Thailand said:

"But he said that the caretaker involved had been spoken to about excessive punishment and would be disciplined. " ?

 

Out of a job surely?

an inactive post probably

If I were the parent, legal remedies and discipline from the school would be my last line of action. Sometimes, more drastic action is called for. 

3 hours ago, Thailand said:

"But he said that the caretaker involved had been spoken to about excessive punishment and would be disciplined. " ?

 

 

 

In the context of Thai Schools with their military discipline, this might be taken as a slightly unfortunate incident… Severe rules, generally lax discipline and enforcement, but over zealous reactions when they do enforce are the normal way here.

3 hours ago, Thailand said:

"But he said that the caretaker involved had been spoken to about excessive punishment and would be disciplined. " ?

 

Out of a job surely?

How about a taste of his own medicine?

As an adult in US Army boot camp nobody ever thought of demanding 500 sit-ups. This dorm manager, or whatever they call it, should be given the option of doing 500 sit-ups in front of the students or pack and go, maybe to jail for engaging in child abuse. But… TIT.

I do 100 sit up's and that is not easy for a child to be made to do anything more than 3 is down right cruelty. This caretaker or what ever he is should be publicly flogged.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The child was left unable to urinate or walk after suffering damage to his liver and kidneys.

Seems unlikely unless the kid already had undiagnosed problems.

Three wais and "sorry"

Usually fixes thai brain freezes..

 

Disgusting abuse by the caretaker. 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

He planned to meet the parents. He confirmed that 21 students were punished by the caretaker who demanded 500 sit-ups but most of the kids barely did 100.

Make the "caretaker" do 500..

4 hours ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

Terrible how this keeps happening. It's either on one end, absolutely no discipline and the kids run amok, or all the way at the other end, where it's boot camp. They can't seem to find the middle ground.

This is sadly the top post here.

 

You still see people driving to work in their own cars, wearing masks because someone said they should do that a few years ago. It all boils down to the programmed response to do the right thing, because you never know when it could happen... but if you're caught then the punishment would be dire.

 

There is often no rhyme or reason - to demand such a stupid number of sit-ups is ridiculous and it's sad to say that students will rarely think it an option to refuse or even complain.

 

Thai's are very proud of this culture - and they see little wrong with school behaviour. Complaining is a crime. Refusing to obey lawful orders is a crime. Teachers are Gods - so any order must be lawful... and so it goes...

4 hours ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

Terrible how this keeps happening. It's either on one end, absolutely no discipline and the kids run amok, or all the way at the other end, where it's boot camp. They can't seem to find the middle ground.

Thais never find the middle ground on anything. Everything is done to an extreme. They drive far too fast, play music far too loud, beat people like a pack of rapid dogs with kicking in the head when their victim is down, frequent tales of killings over the smallest thing. The government cracks nuts with a sledgehammer with extreme reactions. Basically, it's down to a lack of self-control. Doesn't seem to be taught here.

Why TF is a caretaker disciplining the children in the first place? Surely that's the teacher's job. Not some jumped up janitor on a power trip.

These teachers and school staff seem to have no fear of retribution from parents.

If anyone did that too my kid it would be strike first ask questions later.

Not being a hero but I would've thought that a natural reaction from any parent when anyone physically harms your child?

4 hours ago, Thailand said:

"But he said that the caretaker involved had been spoken to about excessive punishment and would be disciplined. " ?

 

Out of a job surely?

back to the army........

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Seems unlikely unless the kid already had undiagnosed problems.

Very classy blaming the victim, who happens to be 8 year old kid, and not the Nazi who made him do 500 sit-ups.

 

That care-taker should be given 10500 sit ups, 500 for each of 21 kids he forced to do the same, with the gun pointing at his head if he stops. After-all, with the decision making skills like that, beyond 2 extra ventilation holes there should be no additional damage.

5 hours ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

Terrible how this keeps happening. It's either on one end, absolutely no discipline and the kids run amok, or all the way at the other end, where it's boot camp. They can't seem to find the middle ground.

I control the kids in my classes by  having the last 10 mins of each class as an activity/games time I give them 5 strikes, each strikes is a count of 5. If the class or the students disrupting the class don't  stop, the whole class loses a strike. If they lose 5 = no activity/game. The second i start to count to 5, the other students tell the disruptive ones to be quiet. Thai teachers say I'm too hard on the students.

5 minutes ago, Ginner said:

I control the kids in my classes by  having the last 10 mins of each class as an activity/games time I give them 5 strikes, each strikes is a count of 5. If the class or the students disrupting the class don't  stop, the whole class loses a strike. If they lose 5 = no activity/game. The second i start to count to 5, the other students tell the disruptive ones to be quiet. Thai teachers say I'm too hard on the students.

Punishing the whole class for the behavior of one or two is cruel and unfair, these kids will carry resentment toward authority and laws for their entire lives. Additionally, this is a tactic used by Hitler on POWs. The Thai teachers are right. The kids deserve better.  You should resign.

7 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

Punishing the whole class for the behavior of one or two is cruel and unfair, these kids will carry resentment toward authority and laws for their entire lives. Additionally, this is a tactic used by Hitler on POWs. The Thai teachers are right. The kids deserve better.  You should resign.

Do you know what teaching is about? It's about teaching children how to interact into society with others and that their behavior can affect others, family and friends, or would you suggest I do it the Thai way... a slap round the head and brought out to the front and totally embarrassed  Infront of the other students.

1 hour ago, phetphet said:

Why TF is a caretaker disciplining the children in the first place? Surely that's the teacher's job. Not some jumped up janitor on a power trip.

Quite. This was my thought also. It is possible that the boy did have some weakness or other and perhaps his teacher might know about it. But a Caretaker?? He should have reported the the tap problem to the head teacher (or whoever employed him). He should be dismissed for just for taking the 'law into his own hands' and then the school following up on that via the appropriate authorities. Unfortunately I doubt that will happen. I hope the boy recovers.

2 hours ago, sikishrory said:

These teachers and school staff seem to have no fear of retribution from parents.

If anyone did that too my kid it would be strike first ask questions later.

Not being a hero but I would've thought that a natural reaction from any parent when anyone physically harms your child?

Ok not a teacher.

 

I agree that this is over the top 25 push ups maybe

 

BUt can we stop withe the child abuse and call it what it is assault. 

 

The problem is the same one all through Thai society. 

 

No one knows what to do.  What's reasonable.

 

It is the same with teaching classes the only thing you g and old teachers know is what they saw as students.

 

No one really teaches teachers how to teach.  No one mentors the new teachers or assists them.

1 hour ago, Jonathan Swift said:

Punishing the whole class for the behavior of one or two is cruel and unfair, these kids will carry resentment toward authority and laws for their entire lives. Additionally, this is a tactic used by Hitler on POWs. The Thai teachers are right. The kids deserve better.  You should resign.

 

1 hour ago, Ginner said:

Do you know what teaching is about? It's about teaching children how to interact into society with others and that their behavior can affect others, family and friends, or would you suggest I do it the Thai way... a slap round the head and brought out to the front and totally embarrassed  Infront of the other students.

probably you never stood in front of a classroom.....You would talk differently

It is time to get this semi-divineness out of the lesser educated Thai folks, i.e. 85%. Anything related to government, army, police, medicine or education floats 40 centimetres above ground as higher ups. 

Caretakers, watchmen etc. believe that they can behave like many of afore-mentioned. Society, and specially children, need to be protected from such evil p1rkcs - for good. Throw them into a slammer for years to come, communicate with fingerpointing photos and name and make them pay for their absolute misbehavior. 

I sometimes wonder, what all those semi-divine a"*ç%"sholes would say, if their kids or loved ones would be treated the way they treat children or (elder?) people under their "care". What a disgrace ...

7 hours ago, Thailand said:

"But he said that the caretaker involved had been spoken to about excessive punishment and would be disciplined. " ?

 

Out of a job surely?

I sure wouldn't bet on that. Maybe relocated to another school at worst.

 

2 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

It is time to get this semi-divineness out of the lesser educated Thai folks, i.e. 85%. Anything related to government, army, police, medicine or education floats 40 centimetres above ground as higher ups. 

Caretakers, watchmen etc. believe that they can behave like many of afore-mentioned. Society, and specially children, need to be protected from such evil p1rkcs - for good. Throw them into a slammer for years to come, communicate with fingerpointing photos and name and make them pay for their absolute misbehavior. 

I sometimes wonder, what all those semi-divine a"*ç%"sholes would say, if their kids or loved ones would be treated the way they treat children or (elder?) people under their "care". What a disgrace ...

Personally, I'd be all for corporal punishment. And I'd give the father of the child first dibs to be the one to mete out the whipping or caning, if he wanted. And it should be done in front of city hall for all to see. It would be good to televise it as well. People need very explicit examples, especially around here! It seems to be such a common story of abuse in the schools. I am quite surprised there aren't more cases of fathers going to get justice on their own. If they didn't deal out some pretty severe punishment and it were my child, the perpetrator would definitely wish they had given him a more severe punishment by the time I was done with him. 40 centimeters above ground? As far as I'm concerned some of these guys, especially the sexual predators, are lucky they aren't a meter UNDERground.