Officials working to reduce sugar intake in Thailand amid growing health concerns

[Eff1n2ret]

15 hours ago, BananaStrong said:

plus white rice isn't good for your blood sugar.  spikes blood sugar easy

Yup, I was diagnosed as pre-diabetic a few months ago and have been working hard at diet and exercise since. The easiest thing of all was to give up rice.

[scubascuba3]

17 minutes ago, Eff1n2ret said:

Yup, I was diagnosed as pre-diabetic a few months ago and have been working hard at diet and exercise since. The easiest thing of all was to give up rice.

Most people who eat rice don't get diabetes it's the other stuff you're eating and drinking. What was your diet like?

Edited February 1, 2023 by scubascuba3

[Burma Bill]

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

to design a healthier food and drinks menu, cutting the amount of sugar used by 5%.

I appreciate all the other numerous comments on health improvement methods, but being an insulin dependent Type 2 Diabetic, the most important for me is the sugar content in food/drinks which IMO should be approaching 0% - use "sweeteners" instead . During my 20 years in Thailand, I always had trouble finding non-Thai "low sugar" or "sugar free" products, for example mayonnaise, salad cream, fruit juices, jams and carbonated drinks etc. etc. (the Thai products were IMO disgustingly too sweet). The Thai Mitr Phol Sugar Corporation invariably "lobbied" politicians whenever there was any suggestion of sugar controls. Fortunately, here in Siem Reap there are many international brands of sugar free, no added sugar and reduced sugar products on offer in the larger supermarkets, many imported from the UK, EU and Australia.

With respect, I know many of you find sweeteners disgusting and that I should stick to a strict "diabetic diet" but it is my choice.  

Edited February 1, 2023 by Burma Bill
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[San Fran Dan]

I have everyone in moobaan taking metformin , now I hear Burberry is Better 

[paulikens]

What about getting the Thais to do some exercise?  

[scubascuba3]

8 minutes ago, paulikens said:

What about getting the Thais to do some exercise?  

too busy working 7 days a week

[paulikens]

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

too busy working 7 days a week

plenty of Thais don't work 7 days a week. and exercise you can do by walking to work but god forbid the Thais walk anywhere. they get on their motorbikes to go a 100 yards to the 7-11.   I don't think Thais even know that their legs can make the motion of moving. 

[Damrongsak]

On 1/31/2023 at 8:27 AM, kickstart said:

....

 ...I was on my own buying market stall food some bags of curry was so sweet it was like eating Ka-Nom's Thai sweets ,or others that salty, that week the dogs did well.

The problem will get worse, not better. 

Last fall my wife complained about the sweet curry, etc.  I will eat sweet deserts or candy occasionally, but like my regular food hot and sour.

[Damrongsak]

Some could use a reduced fat diet as well.

 

[save the frogs]

fruit and raw honey are best for sweets. 

 

 

 

[KhunLA]

5 hours ago, paulikens said:

plenty of Thais don't work 7 days a week. and exercise you can do by walking to work but god forbid the Thais walk anywhere. they get on their motorbikes to go a 100 yards to the 7-11.   I don't think Thais even know that their legs can make the motion of moving. 

I think more than a few folks need to actually go exercise themselves, during pre-work hours & after work hours, and you'd see the parks are packed with Thais exercising.

 

I know when I used to catch sunrise surfside, there are plenty.  And after work hours, I avoid the park, as to many folks there.

 

Seems people see, or don't see what the want to.

[KhunLA]

15 hours ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Also had once statines for high cholesterol, never ever I will have them again.

Worked for lowering, but got lots of  body complaints in return and they were bad.

Seems i wasnt the only one, many people using it had bad complaints.

Breaks down Q10 enzym and also muscle. People couldnt walk anymore.

Even doctors now say, dont use statines. 

Sugar has negative effect? Maybe 

Some info about Q10 & statins ... 

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-and-a-statin-use-doesnt-always-mean-coenzyme-q10-supplement-is-needed/#:~:text=Some researchers have suggested that,for people who take statins.

Edited February 1, 2023 by KhunLA

[scubascuba3]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I think more than a few folks need to actually go exercise themselves, during pre-work hours & after work hours, and you'd see the parks are packed with Thais exercising.

 

I know when I used to catch sunrise surfside, there are plenty.  And after work hours, I avoid the park, as to many folks there.

 

Seems people see, or don't see what the want to.

Yeah i see lots of Thais on Pratumnak doing the mountain loop walking or running, loads cycle out of town, plus many go to gym. I wonder how many fat falang on Buakhao and in expat shops do exercise

Edited February 1, 2023 by scubascuba3

[xtrnuno41]

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Some info about Q10 & statins ... 

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-and-a-statin-use-doesnt-always-mean-coenzyme-q10-supplement-is-needed/#:~:text=Some researchers have suggested that,for people who take statins.

Doesnt matter for me anymore, as i wil never have them again.

One side effect  which occurred with me, was headache and started after i had statines already for 9 months. Not just a little, no every day an immense pain. Didnt relate first headache and statine, as i had them 9 months. Also my doctor didnt and said first it was migraine. OK, that could be true, but then it was related to my use of statines.

Found out myself, by stopping with it and then got back to doc to tell.

He send me to specialist who gave me other statines, however with same effect.

The last one i had was the worst. I sure know now how people feel who have mysterious migraine. With the last attack, i felt, i better hang myself.

So stopped. 

Ok now im way off  of topic

[cmjl]

On 2/1/2023 at 6:08 AM, Burma Bill said:

I appreciate all the other numerous comments on health improvement methods, but being an insulin dependent Type 2 Diabetic, the most important for me is the sugar content in food/drinks which IMO should be approaching 0% - use "sweeteners" instead . During my 20 years in Thailand, I always had trouble finding non-Thai "low sugar" or "sugar free" products, for example mayonnaise, salad cream, fruit juices, jams and carbonated drinks etc. etc. (the Thai products were IMO disgustingly too sweet). The Thai Mitr Phol Sugar Corporation invariably "lobbied" politicians whenever there was any suggestion of sugar controls. Fortunately, here in Siem Reap there are many international brands of sugar free, no added sugar and reduced sugar products on offer in the larger supermarkets, many imported from the UK, EU and Australia.

With respect, I know many of you find sweeteners disgusting and that I should stick to a strict "diabetic diet" but it is my choice.  

There have been a few studies done that suggest that artificial sweeteners are bad for your health in that there is an increased risk of strokes and heart attacks as well as weight gain in some people,l fail to understand why people would rather use man made chemicals in their food rather than what is available from natural food sources - in moderation.

[nglodnig]

Maybe if they stopped them burning the sugar cane fields after  harvesting this would be a big health improvement too....

 

[cmjl]

Slightly off topic,yesterday, somewhere North of Kampeang Phet we watched a lorry and drag loaded with quadrant bales of sugar cane leaves tipping them at the side of a field,I'm guessing that,from the old bales that were also there that they must be tipping them to eventually rot down-though the strings won't if they're plastic but at least they weren't burning them(yet).

[Wongkitlo]

On 2/1/2023 at 8:32 AM, hotchilli said:

Take a look in any convenience store/supermarket drink cabinets and see how many sugary drinks are available.

I am convinced that Thai Coca Cola, Schweppes  etc have more sugar added than if you buy them in Western countries. 

[trainman34014]

On 2/1/2023 at 6:38 PM, scubascuba3 said:

too busy working 7 days a week

That's the Women.  Huge numbers of so called 'Men' are doing as little as possible except drinking Beer and Smoking whilst watching Millions of Burmese and Cambodians doing the jobs they should be doing !

[trainman34014]

24 minutes ago, Wongkitlo said:

I am convinced that Thai Coca Cola, Schweppes  etc have more sugar added than if you buy them in Western countries. 

The avearge bottle of Coke and most other sugary fizz drinks have seven teaspoons full of sugar in them.  You only have to look around the Parks, Playgrounds and the Streets to see how many bottles of this muck the Thai's drink !

[Sir Dude]

Many health conditions are caused by having too much insulin in the body. If you think about it, then the human body has not evolved over thousands of years to eat three meals a day, plus snacks and sugary drinks. For many thousands of years you would be lucky to eat once a day, and if not, then once every two or three days... which is why intermittent fasting and the OMAD (one meal a day) diet is getting so much attention due to the major benefits derived from practicing it. Everytime you eat your insulin spikes and your pancreas has to work to balance what you put in your body, this is why people get insulin resistence and become type 2 diabetics due to so much sugar loaded into food.

By doing intermittent fasting you give all your organs time to rest and recover. There are many huge benefits to one meal a day/intermittent fasting like autophagy, natural growth hormones that maintain stuff, increased energy levels through burning fat instead of glucose (ketosis), mental clarity and focus, improves your discipline in general etc. etc.

As for metformin, you can take burberine or benfothiamine which does the same job, but are way more healthy/natural. Even if you are pre-diabetic, then burberine is a really good choice as a supplement that will get your blood sugar levels back to normal... definately worth researching and talking to a diabetic specialist doctor about it if you are taking metformin.

[scubascuba3]

52 minutes ago, Wongkitlo said:

I am convinced that Thai Coca Cola, Schweppes  etc have more sugar added than if you buy them in Western countries. 

Why don't you check by reading the label, often fizzy drinks are now 5% sugar, before i used to see cokes at 11%.

 

They've ruined sugary drinks for me, during exercise i now have water with my own added table sugar, don't touch fizzy drinks

Edited February 8, 2023 by scubascuba3

[Wongkitlo]

23 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Why don't you check by reading the label, often fizzy drinks are now 5% sugar, before i used to see cokes at 11%.

 

They've ruined sugary drinks for me, during exercise i now have water with my own added table sugar, don't touch fizzy drinks

I just use them like cordial added to soda water. 20 %coke 80% soda

[scubascuba3]

39 minutes ago, Wongkitlo said:

I just use them like cordial added to soda water. 20 %coke 80% soda

Probably a good way to reduce sugar intake. When i exercise i want more sugar not less