Scott Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 The Chinese embassy urged the Philippines to move in the right direction to maintain good neighborly relations and warned the country to “do not bring wolves into the house”. “China, the Philippines and other countries in the region are in the process of recovering from Covid-19. We should be on the right track to maintain good neighborly relations and achieve mutual benefits, instead of being distracted by The forces are pouring fuel on the fire and dividing us,” the Chinese embassy in the Philippines said on March 12. https://vietnam.postsen.com/world/260419/China-warns-Philippines-‘not-to-bring-wolves-into-the-house’.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Olav Seglem Posted March 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2023 Said the big wolf, dressed as sheep :-) 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 The Chinese government are such fools. They just cannot help themselves. Dumb and dumber, it would seem. Xi is such a goon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 they were also heard to say "or i'll huff and i'll puff and i'll blow your house in" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, spidermike007 said: The Chinese government are such fools. They just cannot help themselves. Dumb and dumber, it would seem. Xi is such a goon. Disagree. They have a long term strategy and are slowly taking control of the region and expanding influence all over. With the west occupied elsewhere they may speed up their local ambitions. 2 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Today's 'house' is defined more by ideological closeness than by geographical closeness. China is out back in the woods somewhere howling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soi3eddie Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 ....whilst China builds man made islands in the South China sea and does as it pleases over neighbouring territory. Just take a look at the "nine dash line" to see how much of the area China considers it's territory. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Olav Seglem said: Said the big wolf, dressed as sheep ???? Just how many countries are truly friends with China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NORDO Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 Agreed the events that took place in the Pacific during pre WWII are slowly evolving in present day. Only a different player. The current World affairs are just a mask for him. The western Countries are far to occupied with Eastern Europe and MENA. Previous industrial nations are at an all time low and ill prepared to ramp up production in order to counter an offensive. As well, many of the Western nations have “farmed out” much of their industrial capacity. The Western World is to occupied with our personal needs to accept our lives will change dramatically for he worse in the next Ten to Twenty years. I seriously question whether the younger gens are able to fathom this, or even be able to muster a successful defense. I’ll be pushing up daisy's by then, but it still infuriates me that the younger gens is willing to <deleted> away everything our previous gens fought and died for. They want a “ WOKE” culture and they sure as hell will get one, but not the kind they want. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denim Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Scott said: The Chinese embassy urged the Philippines to move in the right direction to maintain good neighborly relations and warned the country to “do not bring wolves into the house”. I don't think the Philippines will Panda to the Chinese when it comes to national security 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Denim said: I don't think the Philippines will Panda to the Chinese when it comes to national security No they won't. This from last month. US secures deal on Philippines bases to complete arc around China 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, NORDO said: Agreed the events that took place in the Pacific during pre WWII are slowly evolving in present day. Only a different player. The current World affairs are just a mask for him. The western Countries are far to occupied with Eastern Europe and MENA. Previous industrial nations are at an all time low and ill prepared to ramp up production in order to counter an offensive. As well, many of the Western nations have “farmed out” much of their industrial capacity. The Western World is to occupied with our personal needs to accept our lives will change dramatically for he worse in the next Ten to Twenty years. I seriously question whether the younger gens are able to fathom this, or even be able to muster a successful defense. I’ll be pushing up daisy's by then, but it still infuriates me that the younger gens is willing to <deleted> away everything our previous gens fought and died for. They want a “ WOKE” culture and they sure as hell will get one, but not the kind they want. You may not notice it, but the U.S. is gradually redeploying forces to the Pacific to counter Chinese aggression. And existing forces are being restructured in this direction. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wwest5829 Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, soi3eddie said: ....whilst China builds man made islands in the South China sea and does as it pleases over neighbouring territory. Just take a look at the "nine dash line" to see how much of the area China considers it's territory. While I consider myself as an "old friend" of China recognizing its rich history and wishing for China to take its place as one of the world's leading nations, I think the PRC has overstepped in its declaration of sovereignty over most of the South China Sea. Pushback was inevitable against the unilateral action. I support and encourage international navel flotillas regularly freely sailing in these international waters and an outright refusal to acknowledge China's unilateral claim. China has brought the need to defend against China's action. The only deescalation way to save face is an international treaty dealing with the South China Sea claim withdrawal - with multinational rights to the resources and environmental protections. China needs to take the leadership in this to save face and show that increased defenses by surrounding nations is not needed. 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Scott said: “do not bring wolves into the house”. We'd prefer you bowed to the Emperor (for life) Xi! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placnx Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: No they won't. This from last month. US secures deal on Philippines bases to complete arc around China This is why China is making loud noises. It could impede the plan to eat Taiwan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 hours ago, wwest5829 said: While I consider myself as an "old friend" of China recognizing its rich history and wishing for China to take its place as one of the world's leading nations, I think the PRC has overstepped in its declaration of sovereignty over most of the South China Sea. Pushback was inevitable against the unilateral action. I support and encourage international navel flotillas regularly freely sailing in these international waters and an outright refusal to acknowledge China's unilateral claim. China has brought the need to defend against China's action. The only deescalation way to save face is an international treaty dealing with the South China Sea claim withdrawal - with multinational rights to the resources and environmental protections. China needs to take the leadership in this to save face and show that increased defenses by surrounding nations is not needed. Wishful thinking. The unfortunate reality is that Xi is a gambler, and the West and Taiwan are not prepared. The next few years are really dangerous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hawaiian Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 hours ago, wwest5829 said: While I consider myself as an "old friend" of China recognizing its rich history and wishing for China to take its place as one of the world's leading nations, I think the PRC has overstepped in its declaration of sovereignty over most of the South China Sea. Pushback was inevitable against the unilateral action. I support and encourage international navel flotillas regularly freely sailing in these international waters and an outright refusal to acknowledge China's unilateral claim. China has brought the need to defend against China's action. The only deescalation way to save face is an international treaty dealing with the South China Sea claim withdrawal - with multinational rights to the resources and environmental protections. China needs to take the leadership in this to save face and show that increased defenses by surrounding nations is not needed. Dream on. China already dismissed one decision made in favor of the Philippines. The show of force in the South China Sea by the U.S and others has no way stopped the Chinese from displaying their arrogance and military might. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 To put it simply I think they are projecting (they are the wolf) I’d love to see a sizable international fleet with carriers sailing through the region on a regular basis + it’s excellent training if god forbid it’s needed for real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 18 hours ago, Scott said: The Chinese embassy urged the Philippines to move in the right direction to maintain good neighborly relations ???????????????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 21 hours ago, Denim said: I don't think the Philippines will Panda to the Chinese when it comes to national security President Duterte did. So will some future Philippine President or dictator. America is stupid beyond belief to once again knock on their door with a bag full of money. The next Philippine power person will want more and threaten to get back into bed with the Chinese to get it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, IAMHERE said: President Duterte did. So will some future Philippine President or dictator. America is stupid beyond belief to once again knock on their door with a bag full of money. The next Philippine power person will want more and threaten to get back into bed with the Chinese to get it. Bong Bong's father, Ferdinand used the communist insurgency as leverage to milk the U.S. He even created fake firefights with the New Peoples Army (NPA) to prolong martial law. Edited March 14, 2023 by Hawaiian clarification 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 hours ago, IAMHERE said: President Duterte did. So will some future Philippine President or dictator. America is stupid beyond belief to once again knock on their door with a bag full of money. The next Philippine power person will want more and threaten to get back into bed with the Chinese to get it. Actually, even Duterte ultimately repented of his stance on China. Duterte’s Dalliance With China Is Over The mercurial leader has realigned Manila with Washington as tensions rise in Asia. https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/11/02/duterte-china-philippines-united-states-defense-military-geopolitics/ It was the one policy of his that was always unpopular with the Filipino people. Given that China continues to commit aggression against the territorial waters,islands, and people of the Philippines, there isn't much chance that Duterte's China rapprochement will be revived. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Hawaiian said: Bong Bong's father, Ferdinand used the communist insurgency as leverage to milk the U.S. He even created fake firefights with the New Peoples Army (NPA) to prolong martial law. Ferdinand crossed a red line when he had Benigno Aquino Sr killed. That attack on the elite was too much. Marcos Jr seems to be threading the needle by having Duterte's daughter as his VP while taking a stand against China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 On 3/13/2023 at 9:04 AM, soi3eddie said: ....whilst China builds man made islands in the South China sea and does as it pleases over neighbouring territory. Just take a look at the "nine dash line" to see how much of the area China considers it's territory. That'll be the upside down "house" innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, placnx said: Ferdinand crossed a red line when he had Benigno Aquino Sr killed. That attack on the elite was too much. Marcos Jr seems to be threading the needle by having Duterte's daughter as his VP while taking a stand against China. Yet the U.S. rescued him and Imelda by flying them out of the country to be resettled in Hawaii. There they were revered by the large Ilocano population which until today consider him a national hero who did no wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 On 3/13/2023 at 3:11 AM, vandeventer said: Just how many countries are truly friends with China? They making friends all the time, Saudi Arabia have become a beneficial and a strong partner in crime. We do not like to think about it, but we know how this is going down one way or the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 15 hours ago, Hawaiian said: Yet the U.S. rescued him and Imelda by flying them out of the country to be resettled in Hawaii. There they were revered by the large Ilocano population which until today consider him a national hero who did no wrong. Getting them out was also in aiding a democratic transition. Ilocos Norte is their territory in the old feudal system which persists today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, placnx said: Getting them out was also in aiding a democratic transition. Ilocos Norte is their territory in the old feudal system which persists today. Here in Hawaii, most Ilocanos still subscribe to the Marcos cult. They get totally bent out of shape when anyone tries to point out the atrocities committed by the Marcos regime and the billions he and his cronies stole. One guy whom I spoke with was a member of the presidential guard and said "It's all lies." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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