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3 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Fauci thinks he is always right and anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they are talking about

Whatever the merits of that assertion may be, and they are dubious, do you believe it's a crime for someone to think that they are always right and claim that anyone who disagrees with them doesn't know what they are talking about?

Sounds like you're unfamiliar with a little thing called the First Amendment to the Constitution.

 

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The stupidity of the GOP/MAGA base.  They'll believe any non-negative thing about the orange guy and his cabal, any other such talk is lies.  And that's a pretty solid ~35% of the US voters.

The worst people in the world in DT Land are (just to name a few): Hillary, Biden, Pelosi, Fauci, Soros, the guy who was laughing at all the flags on your pickup truck, and who ever else you want.

Fauci should be prosecuted for, um, well, uh, you know . . .

 

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Interesting reporting on how right-wing governors and legislators in deep red state have passed a lot of measures aimed at crippling the authority of public health officials to respond to future public health crises.

 

"Lawsuits and legislation over COVID-19 response measure have weakened public health authority and the ability to respond to future pandemics, the Washington Post reported yesterday.

 

It noted that at least 30 states have passed laws since 2020 limiting public health authorities and that more than half the country is barred from issuing mask mandates, closing schools, and taking other response steps."

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/quick-takes-global-covid-ebb-us-pandemic-pushback-testing-china-travelers-singapore-covid

 

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I do not like Fauci. Has little to do with the man. I just think he was a mouthpiece for Big Pharma, the CDC, the WHO, and the FDA. None of whom I trust. And while I am not anti vax, I always questioned the narrative of Covid. On many levels. I think it is healthy to question the narrative, especially when most of the big players are on the same page. 

 

However, the conservatives are simply using this as a talking point, and have little to back up their assertions. It is all getting very old, very stale, and very dumb. 

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To all of the posters who replied to my post, no where in my post did I say that Fauci should be prosecuted.  What I was referring to was his comments made to anyone disagreeing with him about the origins of the virus.  No one has any concrete evidence as to whether Covid19 came from the Wuhan Lab of Virology or anywhere else.

One poster mentioned First Amendments rights.  They apply to everyone including me. 

The following link explores the ongoing controversy surrounding the origin of Covid19.  Notice the disclaimer at the bottom of the article:  https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement

If anyone continues to disagree with my right to post my opinion, well then, it's their problem.

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4 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

To all of the posters who replied to my post, no where in my post did I say that Fauci should be prosecuted.  What I was referring to was his comments made to anyone disagreeing with him about the origins of the virus.  No one has any concrete evidence as to whether Covid19 came from the Wuhan Lab of Virology or anywhere else.

One poster mentioned First Amendments rights.  They apply to everyone including me. 

The following link explores the ongoing controversy surrounding the origin of Covid19.  Notice the disclaimer at the bottom of the article:  https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement

If anyone continues to disagree with my right to post my opinion, well then, it's their problem.

Well, why wouldn't we assume your comment was were directed at the topic of this thread which is:

 

Fauci on calls to prosecute him: ‘There’s no response to that craziness’

 

Apparently, your defense of your comments amounts to the fact that they were irrelevant.

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8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, why wouldn't we assume your comment was were directed at the topic of this thread which is:

 

Fauci on calls to prosecute him: ‘There’s no response to that craziness’

 

Apparently, your defense of your comments amounts to the fact that they were irrelevant.

If irrelevant, then why reply?

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10 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

If irrelevant, then why reply?

The sensible question is "why make an irrelevant comment in the first place"

As for replying to your comment, you think irrelevant  should be immune from criticism on a forum? 

 

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57 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

To all of the posters who replied to my post, no where in my post did I say that Fauci should be prosecuted.  What I was referring to was his comments made to anyone disagreeing with him about the origins of the virus.  No one has any concrete evidence as to whether Covid19 came from the Wuhan Lab of Virology or anywhere else.

One poster mentioned First Amendments rights.  They apply to everyone including me. 

The following link explores the ongoing controversy surrounding the origin of Covid19.  Notice the disclaimer at the bottom of the article:  https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement

If anyone continues to disagree with my right to post my opinion, well then, it's their problem.

Also, your reference to the first amendment is misguided for so many reasons. For one thing, this forum operates under thai law. I don't believe that Thailand has adopted the First :Amendment into its constitution.

And of course, if you aren't living in the United States, then the First Amendment doesn't protect you.

Finally, aseannow.com is a privately owned venue. So even if it were under the jurisdiction of US law, the First Amendment would not apply.

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The responses to this pandemic were rather a mixed bag. Unfortunately, different advisors suggest different responses based on their area of expertise. Health specialists will try to minimise deaths and impacts on other health care, regardless of cost, economists worry about the economic impact (as do businesses)  and politicians listen to what they think will keep them in power. What you get is a mixture of all three.

 

Initially, too much complacency led to the virus getting a foothold in too many places, by the end of January 2020 it was already to late to contain it, as was successfully done with SARS. UK, USA were to focused on the economy until the true impact was realised, and as a result suffered some of the highest death tolls. It was followed by an over reaction to try and cut deaths. The rapid development of vaccines helped cut the death rate, even though they were not completely effective.

 

Although the lockdowns did cause economic damage, it slowed the spread of the early, more fatal variants, and without it the death toll would have undoubtedly been higher. We will probably never know the complete global death toll, but at least 7 million.

 

By the end of January 2020 I already knew Covid was serious and had taken steps to lessen my risk. Although not a medical professional I did train as a biologist and had worked on the BSE response and the 2001 Foot and Mouth epidemic in the UK, although not in a scientific capacity. With both, I saw the economy put before epidemiology ( I had already banned beef in my household before the first cases of BSE were identified in humans, due to my knowledge of Kuru, a similar prion disease from New Guinea).

 

The way to deal with any new, potentially fatal infectious disease is to contain it and eliminate if possible at all costs. The cost of doing so will probably be far less than 'better late than never' endeavours.

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