Putin says Germany remains “occupied”

[Mac Mickmanus]

33 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Occupied by immigrants I have heard from several german expats living in Thailand. They are called racists

Were they immigrants to Thailand who were in Thailand complaining about immigrants to Germany ?

[Denim]

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Do Russians believe that nonsense?

Older generation....mostly yes. Younger generation , mostly not. There are thousands of Youtube videos of ordinary Russians being interviewed about the war. Surprisingly , some hate the Ukrainians and wish them all dead. Others are on the Ukrainians side and wish Putin and his cronies were dead. There are also many fence sitters, who won't even answer questions that could get them in trouble,

[BusyB]

43 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Germans I've met never mention it, not even on the radar

Indeed. I live there. Unless of course you count the so-called 'sovereign citizens / identitarian' nutcases.

[olfu]

Russia? Russia firmly entrenched in past and will stay there for another 1000 years.

[BusyB]

8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Were they immigrants to Thailand who were in Thailand complaining about immigrants to Germany ?

Probably. And an enormous number of the immigrants the German immigrant racists refer to are actually funding their German state pensions right now.

[Hummin]

18 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Were they immigrants to Thailand who were in Thailand complaining about immigrants to Germany ?

Yes, as a good reminder how we occupie parts of thailand creating influence by our behavior and demands on the locals. They have change and adopt, not us

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Yes, as a good reminder how we occupie parts of thailand creating influence by our behavior and demands on the locals. They have change and adopt, not us

It is getting rather abstract and confusing .

Are you making a reference to Turkish people in Germany 

[vandeventer]

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Do Russians believe that nonsense?

No only Putin, In his state of mind he would believe the second world war is not over.

[Kwasaki]

6 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

No only Putin, In his state of mind he would believe the second world war is not over.

Thats handy if you know Putin's state of mind better contact CIA. 

 

[AgMech Cowboy]

The US is in Germany primarily as part of NATO...  However, Russia did not leave Germany until after 1989ish and were still an occupying force.

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5 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I have no idea, who was it ?

East Germany began to function as an independent state in 1949 and gained sovereignty (from Russia)  in 1955 .

It was an independent state the same way Hungary and Czechoslovakia were independent states. Or for that matter almost the entire east european/baltic bloc of nations.

[Mac Mickmanus]

15 minutes ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

The US is in Germany primarily as part of NATO...  However, Russia did not leave Germany until after 1989ish and were still an occupying force.

No , 1989 was the year that the Berlin wall came down , Russia has left East Germany in 1955 , although the independent  East German Government remained friends with USSR

[Jingthing]

10 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Do Russians believe that nonsense?

The majority yes also including the could care less contingent. 

Younger Muscovys are more likely to be accessing international info. 

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, olfu said:

Russia? Russia firmly entrenched in past and will stay there for another 1000 years.

Looking at more comprehensible chunks fascist dictator Putin has taken Muscovy back at least 50 years and young people coming up there are going to have to live what that horror at least a generation or two. 

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21 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

No , 1989 was the year that the Berlin wall came down , Russia has left East Germany in 1955 , although the independent  East German Government remained friends with USSR

Massively false

 

Remembering Russia's Retreat

"It was probably just a coincidence -- but the announcement by US President George W. Bush that the US Army will significantly reduce its forces in Germany came just days before the anniversary of another military power leaving the country: On Aug. 31, 1994, the last Russian soldiers and officers of the "Western Group of Forces" (WGF) left Germany...

From a political and strategic point of view, the deployment of about 340,000 troops and their 207,000 civilian support staff and family members was no longer necessary.''

https://www.dw.com/en/remembering-russias-retreat/a-1301020

 

The German Govt paid the Russians 8.35 billion deutschmarks to leave. That would amount to about 4.8 billion in 1994 US dollar.

 

"In return, Germany eventually took over the WGF's land property (240,000 hectares or 593,000 acres -- about the size of the western German state of Saarland)."

https://www.dw.com/en/remembering-russias-retreat/a-1301020

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Massively false

 

Remembering Russia's Retreat

"It was probably just a coincidence -- but the announcement by US President George W. Bush that the US Army will significantly reduce its forces in Germany came just days before the anniversary of another military power leaving the country: On Aug. 31, 1994, the last Russian soldiers and officers of the "Western Group of Forces" (WGF) left Germany...

From a political and strategic point of view, the deployment of about 340,000 troops and their 207,000 civilian support staff and family members was no longer necessary.''

https://www.dw.com/en/remembering-russias-retreat/a-1301020

 

The German Govt paid the Russians 8.35 billion deutschmarks to leave. That would amount to about 4.8 billion in 1994 US dollar.

 

"In return, Germany eventually took over the WGF's land property (240,000 hectares or 593,000 acres -- about the size of the western German state of Saarland)."

https://www.dw.com/en/remembering-russias-retreat/a-1301020

 

 

I did mean the Russian Government left East Germany in 1955 and East Germany had an independent Government . 

   It was the Soviet Union forces that defended East Germany from Allied invasion post 1955

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2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I did mean the Russian Government left East Germany in 1955 and East Germany had an independent Government . 

   It was the Soviet Union forces that defended East Germany from Allied invasion post 1955

Because it was the allies that behaved aggressively in postwar Germany? Does the Russian attempt to blockade West Berlin ring any bells?  And you really believe the Russian troops were stationed there to defend East Germany from the west?  Did Russian troops defend the Hungarians and the Czechs from the west, too? You think what the Russians did there might have some relevance to what they were doing in East Germany.?

[billd766]

19 hours ago, ezzra said:

Why is this abhorrent person is still allowed to continue living that is what i don't

understand.

He has a strong and trusted set of bodyguards.

 

But then again so did Indira Ghandi who was PM of India until 31 October 1984, two of Gandhi's Sikh bodyguards, Satwant Singh and Beant Singh, shot her with their service weapons in the garden of the prime minister's residence at 1 Safdarjung Road, New Delhi, allegedly in revenge for Operation Blue Star.[109] The shooting occurred as she was walking past a wicket gate guarded by the two men.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indira_Gandhi

 

 

[billd766]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

Massively false

 

Remembering Russia's Retreat

"It was probably just a coincidence -- but the announcement by US President George W. Bush that the US Army will significantly reduce its forces in Germany came just days before the anniversary of another military power leaving the country: On Aug. 31, 1994, the last Russian soldiers and officers of the "Western Group of Forces" (WGF) left Germany...

From a political and strategic point of view, the deployment of about 340,000 troops and their 207,000 civilian support staff and family members was no longer necessary.''

https://www.dw.com/en/remembering-russias-retreat/a-1301020

 

The German Govt paid the Russians 8.35 billion deutschmarks to leave. That would amount to about 4.8 billion in 1994 US dollar.

 

"In return, Germany eventually took over the WGF's land property (240,000 hectares or 593,000 acres -- about the size of the western German state of Saarland)."

https://www.dw.com/en/remembering-russias-retreat/a-1301020

 

 

Isn't doing a little research useful.

 

Facts are always useful and there are so many links out on the internet if a poster can be bothered to look, instead of blundering about as several posters here do and get their unverified "facts" wrong as usual.

Edited March 16, 2023 by billd766

[Kwasaki]

7 minutes ago, billd766 said:

He has a strong and trusted set of bodyguards.

 

But then again so did Indira Ghandi who was PM of India until 31 October 1984, two of Gandhi's Sikh bodyguards, Satwant Singh and Beant Singh, shot her with their service weapons in the garden of the prime minister's residence at 1 Safdarjung Road, New Delhi, allegedly in revenge for Operation Blue Star.[109] The shooting occurred as she was walking past a wicket gate guarded by the two men.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indira_Gandhi

 

I hear Radio interviews from time to time with them assumming i guess but mentioning that there are worst Russian guys in Putin's ranks if he were knock off.