4 hours ago, rose33 said:

Men who really love humanity don't support the gay contingent in society. Might be difficult for you to comprehend, but those men are working towards something bigger, broader & nobler than just arranging the orgasm schedule of their own penis.

Men who love humanity, and support big broad noble aims, consider people based on their character and actions, and contributions to society, rather than on what are their sexual preferences. 

On 3/27/2023 at 8:33 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Of course some of these farang do gooders are hypocrite

 

How many times you been in a bar and some farang drunk is running down gay people for being immoral then goes upstairs with a bar girl ?

Bloody hypocrite 

What's immoral about having sex between a man and a woman, or are you saying that they have to be married to do so?

 

BTW, how many bars in Thailand have rooms "upstairs"? All the ones I've been in, the guy has to take her elsewhere, so you must be hanging out in some unusual bars, IMO.

On 3/27/2023 at 8:37 PM, H1w4yR1da said:

There's is no "anti-gender stuff going around the world."

All people are saying is stop trying to groom kids and trans women (biological men) don't enter sports competitions that don't align to your biological sex, as this is blatantly unfair.

Other than that, no one gives a toss.

Other than that, no one gives a toss.

 

Exactly. Other than those with an agenda, IMO most people in the world don't really care if two men want to get it on, or a man wants to wear a dress, and are happy to ignore it, unless it's thrust in their face.

On 3/28/2023 at 3:23 AM, NORDO said:

NEVER EVER let a preacher or politician form your personal values.  You are just a hoar to them.  

Align your beliefs and morality with common sense and not an external source attempting to capitalize on your worth.

You are just a hoar to them.

 

Google found this for me

 

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hoar

noun

hoarfrost; rime.

a hoary coating or appearance.

adjective

hoary.

 

I suspect you meant something else, but perhaps you could explain exactly what you meant.

 

The Thais have a way of putting these do gooders in check, they basically ignore them.

 

 

5 hours ago, rose33 said:

Men who really love humanity don't support the gay contingent in society. Might be difficult for you to comprehend, but those men are working towards something bigger, broader & nobler than just arranging the orgasm schedule of their own penis.

those men are working towards something bigger, broader & nobler than just arranging the orgasm schedule of their own penis.

 

Sadly I don't know of any such in these dark days of social media driven, IMO, insanity. I know there used to be such, but they were from a previous age.

38 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What's immoral about having sex between a man and a woman, or are you saying that they have to be married to do so?

 

BTW, how many bars in Thailand have rooms "upstairs"? All the ones I've been in, the guy has to take her elsewhere, so you must be hanging out in some unusual bars, IMO.

I don't know where you're going with the accusation but most walled bars have a room you can ST. Might not be optimum

2 minutes ago, Menken said:

I don't know where you're going with the accusation but most walled bars have a room you can ST. Might not be optimum

It's true that many walled bars were under a guest house or an hotel, but specifically as a short time room- not so. I know that a certain soi in Pattaya has such, but IMO one had to be really into sex with bargirls to go in any of those bars.

Perhaps times have changed since I was last in Pattaya.

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's true that many walled bars were under a guest house or an hotel, but specifically as a short time room- not so. I know that a certain soi in Pattaya has such, but IMO one had to be really into sex with bargirls to go in any of those bars.

Perhaps times have changed since I was last in Pattaya.

You're not incorrect

 

I'm just saying there's usually going to get the job done on premises. Nothing more.

 

It might not be pleasant or even half-clean but they generally exist.

Unsubstantiated conspiracy drivel troll posts reported and removed. A comment on moderation also removed. Continue and face a warning.

Homophobic post reported and removed.

 

11 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

As I have said to you already, no child is making these decisions unilaterally; the legal guardians are involved and there are qualified experts who work out the appropriate treatment, which in some extreme cases is puberty blockers.

 

One more time; it's a medical issue.

These gender-confused children and adults have a very heavy cross to bear, and for sure they need help.

But surely not from 'qualified experts' that support their delusions and 'help' them with irreversible surgery. Some of them outgrow their mental issues and immensely regret what they did and the permissive society that allowed it.

 

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I fail to see why you single out Christians for that behaviour. There are a few other religions where such happens also.

'Christian' in the broadest sense of being something to which humans should aspire....not rocket science.

On 3/26/2023 at 6:54 PM, spongeworthy said:

Do you have a source for this claim? It is my understanding that the books are either under review or "banned" for what is assumed to be a violation of Florida's "Don't Say Gay" law, which is what I assume you mean when you say pornographic. I haven't read the 4 books I listed earlier, though I am curious as to what parts of those books were at least initially interpreted as being gay or pornographic.

 

 

I don't need any such "full sentence" as my reply was not only in response to, but also included, the following quote

 

 

Internet is full of this information. Why don't you have a look.

 

It's criminal.

 

This notion that every time someone states something controversial (to woke mob) that it needs to be cited, linked and footnoted is just a ruse and distraction

 

It's real. Many US states passing laws

Profanity riddled troll post removed

4 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

These gender-confused children and adults have a very heavy cross to bear, and for sure they need help.

But surely not from 'qualified experts' that support their delusions and 'help' them with irreversible surgery. Some of them outgrow their mental issues and immensely regret what they did and the permissive society that allowed it.

 

First of all they are not 'gender-confused', they have been diagnosed with a well documented mental health problem called gender dysphoria. 

 

Secondly, I'm not quite sure why you think qualified experts have some sort of agenda to support a childs 'delusion'. Psychiatrists (as most medical professional do) only have the welfare of the child in mind and are not supporting unneccessary and harmful treatments. That's just ridiculous and is supported by the facts. In 2021, 42,167 children aged between 6 and 17 were diagnosed with gender dysphoria but only 1,390 initiated pubert blocker treatment. That's only 3%.   https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/

 

But when you listen to conservatives and those that have fallen for the hype, you would think this is a massive problem..... It's not. There are currently 50.7 million children in the US aged between 6 and 17 so 1,390 represents such a low percentage as to be negligable. Yet this seems to be in the news all the time because obviously a desperate GOP is trying it's very best to make it a hot button political issue and to look at your and many of the comments here, it seems to be working. 

 

One more time; this is a medical issue and should be left to medical experts.     

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Other than that, no one gives a toss.

 

Exactly. Other than those with an agenda, IMO most people in the world don't really care if two men want to get it on, or a man wants to wear a dress, and are happy to ignore it, unless it's thrust in their face.

Or by legacy media even when it is thrust in their faces as they in turn thrust it in yours. Part of the agenda, and the agenda is the problem.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

I'm not quite sure why you think qualified experts have some sort of agenda

An amusing statement in light of the COVID and vaccines debacle. Political qualifications override the medical.

 

Reminds me of a tweet I read this morning.

 

My son works in a hospital as a medical technologist. Since working there he said he’s terrified about me ever getting sick and needing hospitalization.

 

On 3/27/2023 at 11:15 AM, Will B Good said:

The more religious people become, the less Christian their behaviour.

 

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I fail to see why you single out Christians for that behaviour. There are a few other religions where such happens also.

Will B's statement is perhaps better stated as follows:

The more religious people become the less they behave like good Christians.

 

Will B. was classifying the desired behavior in a manner that will be more familiar than any other to most AN readers.

On 3/27/2023 at 11:15 AM, Will B Good said:

 

duplicate

 

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

First of all they are not 'gender-confused', they have been diagnosed with a well documented mental health problem called gender dysphoria. 

 

Secondly, I'm not quite sure why you think qualified experts have some sort of agenda to support a childs 'delusion'. Psychiatrists (as most medical professional do) only have the welfare of the child in mind and are not supporting unneccessary and harmful treatments. That's just ridiculous and is supported by the facts. In 2021, 42,167 children aged between 6 and 17 were diagnosed with gender dysphoria but only 1,390 initiated pubert blocker treatment. That's only 3%.   https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/

 

But when you listen to conservatives and those that have fallen for the hype, you would think this is a massive problem..... It's not. There are currently 50.7 million children in the US aged between 6 and 17 so 1,390 represents such a low percentage as to be negligable. Yet this seems to be in the news all the time because obviously a desperate GOP is trying it's very best to make it a hot button political issue and to look at your and many of the comments here, it seems to be working. 

 

One more time; this is a medical issue and should be left to medical experts.     

Makes one wonder how humanity survived for 50,000 years without Drs willing to give children life altering drugs, because they think they are a different gender.

To the OP worrying about Christians. I've been here 30 years and other than the anti (child) prostitution spy networks and fake NGOs set up in Cambodia what is your issue with Christians here in East Asia? Thirty years and I have no problem, especially in Thailand.

 

I believe the world is at the peak of excess. We are now peak everything. People are taking stock of themselves and others, the pendulum will swing back

 

People seeking guidance and solace in religion is not new. As long as people are not proselytizing why don't you take you own advice and back off.

 

All religion is weird. It all requires huge acts of faith. You may not have it nor I but I've no problem in not only allowing but encouraging people to practice their faith.

 

Often times I have seen people be repulsed by Christians praying for them or even buddhists. I am very happy to take anyone's prayers. If someone will actually pray for me whether I believe that will do a damn bit of good I think that person is a genuinely decent person. How you might think otherwise is beyond me

21 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Makes one wonder how humanity survived for 50,000 years without Drs willing to give children life altering drugs, because they think they are a different gender.

As you were a nurse all your life ,I guess you working with many men ...and women who were in same sex relationship eg gay people 

7 minutes ago, Menken said:

To the OP worrying about Christians. I've been here 30 years and other than the anti (child) prostitution spy networks and fake NGOs set up in Cambodia what is your issue with Christians here in East Asia? Thirty years and I have no problem, especially in Thailand.

 

I believe the world is at the peak of excess. We are now peak everything. People are taking stock of themselves and others, the pendulum will swing back

 

People seeking guidance and solace in religion is not new. As long as people are not proselytizing why don't you take you own advice and back off.

 

All religion is weird. It all requires huge acts of faith. You may not have it nor I but I've no problem in not only allowing but encouraging people to practice their faith.

 

Often times I have seen people be repulsed by Christians praying for them or even buddhists. I am very happy to take anyone's prayers. If someone will actually pray for me whether I believe that will do a damn bit of good I think that person is a genuinely decent person. How you might think otherwise is beyond me

Oh don't get me started on those "do gooders " groups who run charities saying they are saving the children from trafficking and orphans etc 

 

It's been proven in Cambodia many are in fact not orphans 

2 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Oh don't get me started on those "do gooders " groups who run charities saying they are saving the children from trafficking and orphans etc 

 

It's been proven in Cambodia many are in fact not orphans 

That is appalling  , non orphans should be kicked out of orphanages , who do they think that they are ?

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That is appalling  , non orphans should be kicked out of orphanages , who do they think that they are ?

And not only that many of these farang do gooders groups in Cambodia are just money collectors paying themselves fantastic salaries and nice life  on the donations they receive such as World Vision ,etc 

 

 

A number of homophobic and conspiracy posts have been removed.

People would be shocked to know the amount of intel operatives (state sponsored and private) that are imbedded into the fringe of the right and left.  They are at the rallies, protests and are generally the driving force of many groups (think Proud Boys, Antifa, etc). Sure there are plenty of true believers within these groups.  But they are being led and handled for the most part.

 

Their objectives are many, but at the very least, keeping the public at eachothers throats and distracted with nonsense issues is a big one. The biggest fear of the corrupt elite is a united and mobilized public.

 

 

 

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

those men are working towards something bigger, broader & nobler than just arranging the orgasm schedule of their own penis.

 

Sadly I don't know of any such in these dark days of social media driven, IMO, insanity. I know there used to be such, but they were from a previous age.

Yeah, I hear you. I agree it is becoming very rare.

 

But is that a reason to join a race to the bottom?

 

(Pun intended ;-) ).

 

Who is nobler: the ancestors who build something great, or the descendants who have the grit & humility to rebuild it out of smouldering ruins?

 

 

9 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

These gender-confused children and adults have a very heavy cross to bear, and for sure they need help.

But surely not from 'qualified experts' that support their delusions and 'help' them with irreversible surgery. Some of them outgrow their mental issues and immensely regret what they did and the permissive society that allowed it.

 

Spot on. Good post. 

I came across a magazine that was aimed at teens persuading teens to perform sex change surgery.

And the selling point was it would give them "an identity" or sth. 

There are folks out there who are preying on and manipulating vulnerable and confused teens.