8 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Tell it to the 9 Biden family members that have their fingers in the cookie jar. A Special counsel is needed again.

Allegations without evidence.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Another verifiably false assertion. You might want to inform yourself better on the subject before making false claims. Many "facts" have changed from when the lappy was a hoax.

 

The meetings you guys claimed never happened

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-biden-met-14-hunters-business-associates-vice-president

One of those meetings was when, Hunter was hosting a charity event. His father dropped by. You call this a meeting? Typical of the distortions and omissions promulgated by you:

“I remember the vice president coming in, and he did not go around the table. He just simply waved at everybody,” recalled one attendee, Father Alex Karloutsos of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America. “I did not hear any business exchanges with anybody.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/11/us/politics/hunter-biden-investigations.html

 

As for the rest, were they introduced to Biden as business associates of Hunter's? 

And is this really all you've got?

Anyway, maybe I'll get around to investigating the rest of the claims

And, as I've pointed out, the US attorney for Delaware, a Trump appointee has carte blanche to investigate whatever he wants and bring whatever charges he wants  in regards to Hunter Biden. That permission was granted by Merrick Garland. The investigation was begun at least 4 years ago. So far, nothing.

31 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Tell it to the 9 Biden family members that have their fingers in the cookie jar. A Special counsel is needed again.

Where is your proof once again?

 

YOU claim it, YOU prove it.

 

Allegations are meaningless without proof.

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

It proves nothing of the sort as well you know.

 

Now real solid proof would go a long way, but as usual you have nothing.

 

It seems odd to me that the Trump supporters here on ANN profess to know more than the people from the FBI, DoJ etc who are actually involved hands on in any investigation.

 

Yet when the investigation involves Trump, and the proof is there, they don't believe or accept anything.

 

Full on bias and dual standards I suppose.

Like the double standards that Trump is guilty of all allegations , even though he hasn't been found guilty of any of the allegations in a Court of law and yet Biden is also innocent of all allegations against him ?

   Rather hypocritical to call others biased and having double standards 

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Like the double standards that Trump is guilty of all allegations , even though he hasn't been found guilty of any of the allegations in a Court of law and yet Biden is also innocent of all allegations against him ?

   Rather hypocritical to call others biased and having double standards 

He didn't evben imply that trump was guilty. There is, however, a difference between allegations made against Biden vs Trump. Can you see what it is?

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Where is your proof once again?

 

YOU claim it, YOU prove it.

 

Allegations are meaningless without proof.

Just hang on it's all coming out. Will you guys ever say sorry when you are wrong?

1 minute ago, vandeventer said:

Just hang on it's all coming out. Will you guys ever say sorry when you are wrong?

So long as I don’t have to hold my breath.

37 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Like the double standards that Trump is guilty of all allegations , even though he hasn't been found guilty of any of the allegations in a Court of law and yet Biden is also innocent of all allegations against him ?

   Rather hypocritical to call others biased and having double standards 

The allegations against Trump are called criminal indictments passed down by a Grand Jury, they are now the subject of criminal prosecution.

 

The ‘allegations’ against Biden are completely unsubstantiated.

 

There’s a difference.

42 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

He didn't evben imply that trump was guilty. There is, 

I didn't think that it would be necessary to ask him .

 

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

Tell it to the 9 Biden family members that have their fingers in the cookie jar. A Special counsel is needed again.

I strongly disagree with a special counsel ! When oversight committees have hearings some witnesses hide behind the cloak of not discussing a ongoing investigation!

I would prefer local  DA’s get involved especially in jurisdictions where transactions took place.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/05/at-least-2-gop-das-want-to-prosecute-bidens-after-trump-arrest-comer/

28 minutes ago, riclag said:

I strongly disagree with a special counsel ! When oversight committees have hearings some witnesses hide behind the cloak of not discussing a ongoing investigation!

I would prefer local  DA’s get involved especially in jurisdictions where transactions took place.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/05/at-least-2-gop-das-want-to-prosecute-bidens-after-trump-arrest-comer/

The cloak is a constitutional one. Executive, legislative, and judicial branches are separate from each other. 

36 minutes ago, riclag said:

I strongly disagree with a special counsel ! When oversight committees have hearings some witnesses hide behind the cloak of not discussing a ongoing investigation!

I would prefer local  DA’s get involved especially in jurisdictions where transactions took place.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/05/at-least-2-gop-das-want-to-prosecute-bidens-after-trump-arrest-comer/

All fine and dandy, until it gets to the bit where they need to present evidence to a Grand Jury.

 

Stick with the Comey Clown Show, it is at least entertaining .

2 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Just hang on it's all coming out. Will you guys ever say sorry when you are wrong?

Then why not tell us when it all comes out instead of diversions and allegations. That way you can post genuine links too.

7 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

This is a bombshell. The walls are closing in on the President and his clan.  It is the beginning of the end for his Presidency.

Ahh the sound of despair from the MAGA crowd is indeed sweet music to my ears so desperate to smear the Biden’s sorry they have been trying for years and years. how about trying something else like policies to refute whet the dems are offering?all they offer is slander and distraction same old bankrupt b….. I could go on and on about how the trumps profited by daddy’s time as potus …….. pure desperation no more 

18 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Yes, it does rather support the claims of a dual justice system, doesn't it. The judicial/beaurocratic treatment of Presidents 44 and 45 are worlds apart. 

 

As a gentle reminder of why Biden's alleged crimes are of a different magnitude to the Stormy judicial moonshot.

 

“To be clear, Joe Biden is the ‘big guy.’ This evidence raises troubling questions about whether President Biden is a national security risk and about whether he is compromised by foreign governments.”

Rep James Comer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/23/dissecting-gop-claims-about-hunter-biden-deals-allegedly-involving-his-father/

And just who owns the ny post hummm…….why it’s Rupert murdoc the sleazey lyingest guy to ever own a (fake news) organization I seem to recall why just 2 hours ago he had to pay close to a billion dollars for knowingly lying hummm…perhaps Rupert might be a bit more careful now?

23 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"the sleazey lyingest guy to ever own a (fake news) organization"

 

do you have a credible link for this factual statement you made? how can you measure this? Is one lie worse than 6 years of running utterly false narratives defaming a Presidential candidate and then later a President?

 This dominion case just serves to again remind of the double standards at play in bidens judicial system. News networks defaming a President for years with wild false claims without evidence and in the face of corroboration from multiple parties is fine and dandy, conservatives defaming a liberal company = the end of the world. Nope, it just does not seem legit. Either all defamation is bad, or none is.

 

 The only possible way liberals can be angry at Fox news is by totally refusing to consider perspective.

Lies and misinformation are not perspective.

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"the sleazey lyingest guy to ever own a (fake news) organization"

 

do you have a credible link for this factual statement you made? how can you measure this? Is one lie worse than 6 years of running utterly false narratives defaming a Presidential candidate and then later a President?

 This dominion case just serves to again remind of the double standards at play in bidens judicial system. News networks defaming a President for years with wild false claims without evidence and in the face of corroboration from multiple parties is fine and dandy, conservatives defaming a liberal company = the end of the world. Nope, it just does not seem legit. Either all defamation is bad, or none is.

 

 The only possible way liberals can be angry at Fox news is by totally refusing to consider perspective.

Do you understand what an out fo court settlement actually means?

 

It means that they are admitting the fault is theirs and are willing to pay up a sum acceptable, rather than going forward in court, losing their case and paying what the judge decides they should pay.

 

If I were running the case on the Dominion side I would have refused any out of court settlement and left it to the judge.

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Do you understand what an out fo court settlement actually means?

 

It means that they are admitting the fault is theirs and are willing to pay up a sum acceptable, rather than going forward in court, losing their case and paying what the judge decides they should pay.

 

If I were running the case on the Dominion side I would have refused any out of court settlement and left it to the judge.

Dominion is financed by VC's, they decide and they will always go for the money

But I agree with you that would have been more fun, but it only takes 1 fox/trump/tucker loving jury member to lose the case 

Pathetic! Comer is desperate because he has nothing, so he's making up.

On 4/18/2023 at 6:50 AM, Hanaguma said:

This is a bombshell. The walls are closing in on the President and his clan.  It is the beginning of the end for his Presidency.

It is the befinning of the End of America as we know it, 

Multiple troll posts, baiting posts and personal attacks have been removed. Keep on topic and remain civil, agree to disagree and move on.

Slowly, but surely, the noose tightens around the Biden's crime families neck. When Biden leaves office, maybe Bragg or one of his stooge colleagues will light him and his family up with multiple indictments for half the corrupt Biden clan, all nine members ID'd to date.

 

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/04/hunter-biden-reportedly-getting-preferential-irs-treatment-per-irs-whistleblower/

 

This recent whistleblower claims DOJ Garland may have provided false testimony to Congress and has offered to testify to Congress and provide sworn testimony and documentary evidence.

 

“A decorated supervisory IRS agent has reported to the Justice Department’s top watchdog that federal prosecutors appointed by Joe Biden have engaged in “preferential treatment and politics” to block criminal tax charges against presidential son Hunter Biden, providing evidence as a whistleblower that conflicts with Attorney General Merrick Garland’s recent testimony to Congress that the decision to bring charges against Biden was being left to the Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney for Delaware….”

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/irs-agent-seeks-whistleblower-protections-to-share-allegations-of-mishandling-in-hunter-biden-probe/ar-AA1a4n0T

 

Ask yourself a few things, ie, for one, why has Biden, or no member of his family denied these payments from the CCP or at least explained what they did to earn these payments form communist China. They have not, because there is only one logical conclusion here and in the words of Chairman Comer of the House Oversight Committee: "the walls are closing in on the Biden's..."

 

On 4/18/2023 at 2:37 PM, vandeventer said:

Tell it to the 9 Biden family members that have their fingers in the cookie jar. A Special counsel is needed again.

Any idiot can make allegations but smart people have proof to back it up.

 

Trump is a prime example of that.

 

Where is your proof?

 

 

1 hour ago, khokhols said:

Slowly, but surely, the noose tightens around the Biden's crime families neck. When Biden leaves office, maybe Bragg or one of his stooge colleagues will light him and his family up with multiple indictments for half the corrupt Biden clan, all nine members ID'd to date.

 

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/04/hunter-biden-reportedly-getting-preferential-irs-treatment-per-irs-whistleblower/

 

This recent whistleblower claims DOJ Garland may have provided false testimony to Congress and has offered to testify to Congress and provide sworn testimony and documentary evidence.

 

“A decorated supervisory IRS agent has reported to the Justice Department’s top watchdog that federal prosecutors appointed by Joe Biden have engaged in “preferential treatment and politics” to block criminal tax charges against presidential son Hunter Biden, providing evidence as a whistleblower that conflicts with Attorney General Merrick Garland’s recent testimony to Congress that the decision to bring charges against Biden was being left to the Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney for Delaware….”

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/irs-agent-seeks-whistleblower-protections-to-share-allegations-of-mishandling-in-hunter-biden-probe/ar-AA1a4n0T

 

Ask yourself a few things, ie, for one, why has Biden, or no member of his family denied these payments from the CCP or at least explained what they did to earn these payments form communist China. They have not, because there is only one logical conclusion here and in the words of Chairman Comer of the House Oversight Committee: "the walls are closing in on the Biden's..."

 

Why should they deny those payments if they weren't illegal? It's the right wing that's been making claims that they somehow were illegal or that some of the money went to Joe Biden.  And the payments weren't from the Chinese govt but from a private company. In fact, the head of the company is currently being detained by the Chinese govt on the grounds of corruption. So it seems very unlikely he was an agent for tem.

 

As for the allegations, I guess we have to wait and see. Agan, David Weiss, a US attorny appointed by Trump, is going to cover up Hunter Biden's crimes? Seems unlikely, too. As well as Garland perjuring himself. Right now, they're just allegations. 

59 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Any idiot can make allegations but smart people have proof to back it up.

 

Trump is a prime example of that.

 

Where is your proof?

 

 

I know it's hard for you but you will just have to learn to wait, the proof is coming soon.

On 4/19/2023 at 7:03 AM, Tug said:

And just who owns the ny post hummm…….why it’s Rupert murdoc the sleazey lyingest guy to ever own a (fake news) organization I seem to recall why just 2 hours ago he had to pay close to a billion dollars for knowingly lying hummm…perhaps Rupert might be a bit more careful now?

No way. Fox network made a profit of 4.8 billion last year. His lawyers and bean counters had to know that he was likely to be sued by Dominion. They wanted to make sure Newsmax wouldn't take their market share. It was a calculated risk for them. They would happily do it all again and will.

On 4/19/2023 at 1:45 PM, billd766 said:

Do you understand what an out fo court settlement actually means?

 

It means that they are admitting the fault is theirs and are willing to pay up a sum acceptable, rather than going forward in court, losing their case and paying what the judge decides they should pay.

 

If I were running the case on the Dominion side I would have refused any out of court settlement and left it to the judge.

Dominion's calculation was that Fox would drag it out for years and their mates in the SC would change the law and allow Fox to get off the hook.

6 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

I know it's hard for you but you will just have to learn to wait, the proof is coming soon.

In what form and from where might the proof come? The FBI has been investigating H Biden for years now,

13 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

I know it's hard for you but you will just have to learn to wait, the proof is coming soon.

My wedding anniversary is coming soon, my birthday is coming soon, even Xmas is coming soon and I know all those dates are correct.

 

OTOH you have nothing, no proof that is coming soon, no date. So all we have is your word, and that frankly, judged on your past posts, is not worth anything either.

 

It is not hard for me as I tend to take your posts with a shovel full of salt, but it seems so hard for you to get verifiable proof of anything.

1 hour ago, khokhols said:

Slowly, but surely, the noose tightens around the Biden's crime families neck. When Biden leaves office, maybe Bragg or one of his stooge colleagues will light him and his family up with multiple indictments for half the corrupt Biden clan, all nine members ID'd to date.

 

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/04/hunter-biden-reportedly-getting-preferential-irs-treatment-per-irs-whistleblower/

 

This recent whistleblower claims DOJ Garland may have provided false testimony to Congress and has offered to testify to Congress and provide sworn testimony and documentary evidence.

 

“A decorated supervisory IRS agent has reported to the Justice Department’s top watchdog that federal prosecutors appointed by Joe Biden have engaged in “preferential treatment and politics” to block criminal tax charges against presidential son Hunter Biden, providing evidence as a whistleblower that conflicts with Attorney General Merrick Garland’s recent testimony to Congress that the decision to bring charges against Biden was being left to the Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney for Delaware….”

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/irs-agent-seeks-whistleblower-protections-to-share-allegations-of-mishandling-in-hunter-biden-probe/ar-AA1a4n0T

 

Ask yourself a few things, ie, for one, why has Biden, or no member of his family denied these payments from the CCP or at least explained what they did to earn these payments form communist China. They have not, because there is only one logical conclusion here and in the words of Chairman Comer of the House Oversight Committee: "the walls are closing in on the Biden's..."

 

Nothing illegal with these payments. Hunter's lawyer already explained the payments. Comer has nothing.

 

As to the CCP aspect, it was a private company. On top of it thousands of U.S. businesses make business with Chinese companies controlled by the government (=CCP). 

 

"State-owned enterprises accounted for over 60% of China's market capitalization in 2019[9] and generated 40% of China's GDP of US$15.97 trillion (101.36 trillion yuan) in 2020"

 

"This principle creates a political governance system in China’s SOEs—a Party-dominated governance system characterized by Party leadership, state ownership, Party cadre management, Party participation in corporate decision-making, and intra-Party supervision."

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_China

 

Just a few of these companies...

3M Company

A.O. Smith Corporation

ABB Inc.

Abbott Laboratories

Accenture

Adobe Systems Incorporated

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

Agilent Technologies, Inc. 

AIG

Air Products and Chemicals, Inc.

Airbnb, Inc.

Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP

Albright Stonebridge Group

Alcoa Inc.

All In Consulting

Allen & Overy LLP

Allison Transmission Holdings, Inc.

Alphabet Inc.

Alston & Bird LLP

Amazon

Amcor Ltd.

American Express Company

Amgen Inc.

Amphenol Corporation

Amway

Analog Devices, Inc.

APCO Worldwide

Apple Inc.

Applied Materials, Inc.

Aptiv PLC

Arconic Corporation

The Asia Group, LLC

Autodesk, Inc.

Autozone, Inc.

Etc...

 

https://www.uschina.org/about/member-companies