Diane Abbott has Labour whip suspended after 'hateful antisemitic' remarks suggesting Jews do not face racism

[onthedarkside]

 

Labour MP Diane Abbott has had the whip suspended following remarks in which she suggested Jewish people do not face racism, but instead suffer prejudice similar to "redheads".

 

Ms Abbott wrote a letter to The Observer newspaper, in response to an article which had the headline: "Racism in Britain is not black and white. It's far more complicated."

 

The Hackney North MP said she was responding to writer Tomiwa Owolade's claims that "Irish, Jewish and Traveller people all suffer from 'racism'".

 

https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abbott-accused-of-hateful-antisemitism-after-suggesting-jews-do-not-face-racism-12864141

 

[Chomper Higgot]

And rightly so.

 

No need for moths of ‘Due Process’.

 

Call out her blatant antisemitism and chuck her out of the Labour Party.

 

Edited April 23, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[Gaccha]

This is an interesting edge case.

 

She is strictly speaking following the Woke Bible by suggesting there is a hierarchy of victimhood and she correctly places the people whose ancestors were on slaveships as the ones who may claim the most victim points.

 

Normally the biblical position on this would be met without resistance. But she presented the commandments of Wokeness in an inverted form which allowed her to be attacked. If she had only stated the blacks were at the top of the pyramid she would have been fine. Instead she described who was at the bottom, or near the bottom of the pyramid.

 

Obviously the entire Woke Bible's claims are nonsense for any enlightened liberal. It cannot possibly make any difference to your life situation as to whether your great great great great grandfather was on a slaveship or not. But this is where we are today. 

 

She lost on a technicality.

[Chomper Higgot]

44 minutes ago, Gaccha said:

This is an interesting edge case.

 

She is strictly speaking following the Woke Bible by suggesting there is a hierarchy of victimhood and she correctly places the people whose ancestors were on slaveships as the ones who may claim the most victim points.

 

Normally the biblical position on this would be met without resistance. But she presented the commandments of Wokeness in an inverted form which allowed her to be attacked. If she had only stated the blacks were at the top of the pyramid she would have been fine. Instead she described who was at the bottom, or near the bottom of the pyramid.

 

Obviously the entire Woke Bible's claims are nonsense for any enlightened liberal. It cannot possibly make any difference to your life situation as to whether your great great great great grandfather was on a slaveship or not. But this is where we are today. 

 

She lost on a technicality.

‘Woke Bible’

Your imagination has the better of you.

[Slip]

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Woke Bible’

Your imagination has the better of you.

Utter nonsense has the better of him.

[tonbridgebrit]

It doesn't matter what race you're in, never say anything against Jewish people. You won't get away with it.

You can attack black people by saying that Wokeism is rubbish, you won't be punished.

And indeed, Jewish people are the biggest victims of all races. Europe spent centuries having anti-Jewish policies, prior to the murder of the six million.

[JonnyF]

No surprises. Yet more anti-semitism exposed in the Labour party. 

 

The latest incident in a slew of both racist and anti-semitic comments from Labour MP's. I still remember Rupa Huq saying Kswasi Kwarteng was "superficially black" because he didn't fit into her bigoted views of what a black man "should be". 

 

Abbott should be removed from the Labour party. She is an embarrassment. How many more ridiculous comments can she get away with? I do kind of hope she stays though, individuals like her make the Labour party unelectable so in a strange way they are doing their bit for Britain.

[stevenl]

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

No surprises. Yet more anti-semitism exposed in the Labour party. 

 

The latest incident in a slew of both racist and anti-semitic comments from Labour MP's. I still remember Rupa Huq saying Kswasi Kwarteng was "superficially black" because he didn't fit into her bigoted views of what a black man "should be". 

 

Abbott should be removed from the Labour party. She is an embarrassment. How many more ridiculous comments can she get away with? I do kind of hope she stays though, individuals like her make the Labour party unelectable so in a strange way they are doing their bit for Britain.

Strange post, showing an incredible bias and no bearing on reality.

The party dealt with the anti semitism from one of its members. Your opening sentence should have been 'No surprises. Yet more anti-semitism dealt with by the Labour party.'.

You then continue to say Abbott should be removed from the party, she made ridiculous comments. Abbott was the one who dealt with this. In your opinion she should be removed, after she's the one that dealt with this.

Edited April 24, 2023 by stevenl

[Chomper Higgot]

32 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

No surprises. Yet more anti-semitism exposed in the Labour party. 

 

The latest incident in a slew of both racist and anti-semitic comments from Labour MP's. I still remember Rupa Huq saying Kswasi Kwarteng was "superficially black" because he didn't fit into her bigoted views of what a black man "should be". 

 

Abbott should be removed from the Labour party. She is an embarrassment. How many more ridiculous comments can she get away with? I do kind of hope she stays though, individuals like her make the Labour party unelectable so in a strange way they are doing their bit for Britain.

Abbot has had the whip removed and is now under Party investigation, these responses were immediate.

 

No months hiding behind ‘due process’, no ‘Dither and Delay’.

 

Immediate response from the a party that is not in the business of covering up and protecting its members from accountability for their own actions.

[JonnyF]

25 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Strange post, showing an incredible bias and no bearing on reality.

The party dealt with the anti semitism from one of its members. Your opening sentence should have been 'No surprises. Yet more anti-semitism dealt with by the Labour party.'.

You then continue to say Abbott should be removed from the party, she made ridiculous comments. Abbott was the one who dealt with this. In your opinion she should be removed, after she's the one that dealt with this.

How has she dealt with it? By withdrawing her remarks after being caught out? She clearly still holds these racist and anti-semitic views she just apologizes for them occasionally when caught out. It's hardly the first time she's exposed her racism.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abbotts-history-of-gaffes-10482258

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/fb-6915369/What-Diane-Abbotts-gaffes-controversies.html

 

Not to mention breaking the law (drinking alcohol on the train), or claiming she could hire 10,000 police officers for a total of 300,000 pounds, earning her the nickname Dianne Abacus. What an example to set as an MP... 

 

Judging by her son's disgraceful behaviour, the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree either. He's the English version of Hunter Biden.

 

https://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news/22932379.diane-abbotts-son-charged-alleged-assaults-royal-free-homerton-hospitals/

 

She's a deeply unpleasant individual, I wouldn't hire her to do my laundry let alone run the country.

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Abbot has had the whip removed and is now under Party investigation, these responses were immediate.

 

No months hiding behind ‘due process’, no ‘Dither and Delay’.

 

Immediate response from the a party that is not in the business of covering up and protecting its members from accountability for their own actions.

She has admitted the comments and therefore should be sacked immediately, if the Labour party had any decency. There is no need for any investigation, she said it and has admitted so. It's the latest in a long series of racist comments from Abbott.

 

Instead they've removed the whip until this all blows over, at which point she'll scurry back in via the trademen's entrance and continue with her racist rants, probably in private for a while (until she slips up again).

 

She perfectly encapsulates the hypocrisy of the left. As I have said before, they are what they accuse you of being. In this case, racist.

[Chomper Higgot]

28 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

How has she dealt with it? By withdrawing her remarks after being caught out? She clearly still holds these racist and anti-semitic views she just apologizes for them occasionally when caught out. It's hardly the first time she's exposed her racism.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abbotts-history-of-gaffes-10482258

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/fb-6915369/What-Diane-Abbotts-gaffes-controversies.html

 

Not to mention breaking the law (drinking alcohol on the train), or claiming she could hire 10,000 police officers for a total of 300,000 pounds, earning her the nickname Dianne Abacus. What an example to set as an MP... 

 

Judging by her son's disgraceful behaviour, the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree either. He's the English version of Hunter Biden.

 

https://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news/22932379.diane-abbotts-son-charged-alleged-assaults-royal-free-homerton-hospitals/

 

She's a deeply unpleasant individual, I wouldn't hire her to do my laundry let alone run the country.

There’s an election coming, you get your chance to put things right when you vote.

[GroveHillWanderer]

32 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

She has admitted the comments and therefore should be sacked immediately, if the Labour party had any decency. There is no need for any investigation, she said it and has admitted so. It's the latest in a long series of racist comments from Abbott.

 

Sacked from what exactly? She doesn't hold any government position that they can sack her from. She's just an MP, nothing else. Only her constituents can 'sack' her, by not voting for her at the next election.

 

They could also try for a recall petition but again, that would be up to her constituents.

 

The reason for this is that the MP is chosen by the people of their constituency, and so it is not up to their Party, or The Prime Minister or anyone else in Parliament to tell them they have to stop being an MP. The people chose them, the people are the ones to make them leave.

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by GroveHillWanderer

[stevenl]

44 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

She has admitted the comments and therefore should be sacked immediately, if the Labour party had any decency. There is no need for any investigation, she said it and has admitted so. It's the latest in a long series of racist comments from Abbott.

 

Instead they've removed the whip until this all blows over, at which point she'll scurry back in via the trademen's entrance and continue with her racist rants, probably in private for a while (until she slips up again).

 

She perfectly encapsulates the hypocrisy of the left. As I have said before, they are what they accuse you of being. In this case, racist.

It wasn't her that made the comments.

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

It wasn't her that made the comments.

Strange then, that she apologized for them.????

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-65365978

 

[Chomper Higgot]

32 minutes ago, stevenl said:

It wasn't her that made the comments.

She did make the comments and is being held accountable for doing so.

[JonnyF]

5 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Sacked from what exactly? She doesn't hold any government position that they can sack her from. She's just an MP, nothing else. Only her constituents can 'sack' her, by not voting for her at the next election.

 

They could also try for a recall petition but again, that would be up to her constituents.

 

The reason for this is that the MP is chosen by the people of their constituency, and so it is not up to their Party, or The Prime Minister or anyone else in Parliament to tell them they have to stop being an MP. The people chose them, the people are the ones to make them leave.

 

She could be expelled from the party.

 

The problem is, most Labour party members probably agree with her. The party has a long history of anti-semitism.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

She could be expelled from the party.

 

The problem is, most Labour party members probably agree with her. The party has a long history of anti-semitism.

Where is your evidence to back your slur that ‘most Labour Party members probably agree with her’?

 

 

 

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where is your evidence to back your slut that ‘most Labour Party members probably agree with her’?

 

 

Like I said, there has been a long history of anti-semitism in the Labour party. I am sure you are aware of it.

 

I'm not sure what my slut has to do with anything though... I tend not to use such misogynistic language myself.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Like I said, there has been a long history of anti-semitism in the Labour party. I am sure you are aware of it.

 

I'm not sure what my slut has to do with anything though... I tend not to use such misogynistic language myself.

I’ve corrected my typo, you have yet to provide evidence to substantiate your slur, Historic antisemitism, which has been dealt with isn’t it. 
 

[JonnyF]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where is your evidence to back your slur that ‘most Labour Party members probably agree with her’?

 

 

 

 

Oh, you meant slur. You lost me there...

 

You will note my use of the word probably. With that in mind, you could start with the EHRC findings.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism

 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Oh, you meant slur. You lost me there...

 

You will note my use of the word probably. With that in mind, you could start with the EHRC findings.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism

 

Yep, ‘probably’ unsubstantiated slur mongering.

[JonnyF]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Yep, ‘probably’ unsubstantiated slur mongering.

Read the report. There is clearly a serious problem. 

 

 

It would appear that nobody should be surprised by Abbott's latest comments. Given Labour's history, I predict a slap on the wrist and she'll be back soon. 

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Read the report. There is clearly a serious problem. 

 

 

It would appear that nobody should be surprised by Abbott's latest comments. Given Labour's history, I predict a slap on the wrist and she'll be back soon. 

Where’s that from, provide a link so we can see the source and the date.

 

Or are you back into historical stuff that’s already been dealt with, hence hiding the source and date?

[transam]

6 hours ago, stevenl said:

Strange post, showing an incredible bias and no bearing on reality.

The party dealt with the anti semitism from one of its members. Your opening sentence should have been 'No surprises. Yet more anti-semitism dealt with by the Labour party.'.

You then continue to say Abbott should be removed from the party, she made ridiculous comments. Abbott was the one who dealt with this. In your opinion she should be removed, after she's the one that dealt with this.

She supports terrorist organisations, she is a nutter that really has got away with murder, same as her mentor in terrorism, Corby...........

 

It took them too long to send the pair on their way, but........

[JonnyF]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where’s that from, provide a link so we can see the source and the date.

 

Or are you back into historical stuff that’s already been dealt with, hence hiding the source and date?

Same article I quoted before which you conveniently ignored, hence my question "did you read the report". Clearly not, or you'd know where the quotes were from. 

 

Here it is (again...). From 2020. Not exactly ancient history.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism

 

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

She supports terrorist organisations, she is a nutter that really has got away with murder, same as her mentor in terrorism, Corby...........

 

It took them too long to send the pair on their way, but........

Indeed, she even refuses to say she regrets supporting the IRA. If she didn't tick all the right boxes in terms of the holy grail "diversity" she'd have been out years ago.

 

Imagine a white middle aged Tory saying the stuff she's said and still being an MP.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbott-ira-regret-jeremy-corbyn-defeat-british-state-a7759926.html

[RuamRudy]

59 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

She could be expelled from the party.

 

The problem is, most Labour party members probably agree with her. The party has a long history of anti-semitism.

Labour and anti-Semitism or Tories and anti Islam - it seems that both parties have a sizeable section of bigots within them. Good to see Labour continuing to take a strong position against such people.

Edited April 24, 2023 by RuamRudy

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Same article I quoted before which you conveniently ignored, hence my question "did you read the report". Clearly not, or you'd know where the quotes were from. 

 

Here it is (again...). From 2020. Not exactly ancient history.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/29/key-findings-of-the-ehrc-inquiry-into-labour-antisemitism

 

I didn’t ignore it.

 

It’s a historical report, the Labour Party have changed leadership, adopted the recommendations and expelled people the report identified as being guilty of antisemitism.

 

You have nothing to back up your slur.

[bignok]

She looks like a hater. Does she hate men too?