Just now, Bkk Brian said:

That still does not support your claim:

 

suddenly shortly after the visits he gets a business deal

 

Which happens to be false:

 

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden’s visit Saturday to support Ukraine’s fragile democracy came soon after his youngest son was hired by a private Ukrainian company that promotes energy independence from Moscow.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-business-c49555d51eb243e09a42f7577fc5937f

Nice deflection, I provided you with links about CHINA business deals.

 

 

Off topic post removed

10 minutes ago, BenStark said:

Nice deflection, I provided you with links about CHINA business deals.

 

 

You should read your own links:

 

But almost six years later, Biden’s trip to Beijing is coming under new scrutiny amid revelations about President Donald Trump’s efforts to dig up information to corroborate his unproven corruption allegations regarding Biden and his son’s work in Ukraine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-s-trip-china-son-hunter-2013-comes-under-new-n1061051

 

Your claim still remains false. Unless of course you can quote what country and what deal he got suddenly after a visit with Joe on Air Force One?

 

"suddenly shortly after the visits he gets a business deal"

11 minutes ago, BenStark said:

Nice deflection, I provided you with links about CHINA business deals.

 

 

What was wrong about these deals? Did the Chinese partners got a 'favour' from the US government?

 

On top of it, as I wrote in another post, the amounts are ridiculously low for corrupting the WH.

From the BBC news article:

"Hunter Biden’s spokesman, George Mesires, told NBC News that Hunter Biden wasn’t initially an “owner” of the company and has never gotten paid for serving on the board. He said Hunter Biden didn’t acquire an equity interest in the fund until 2017, after his father had left office.

And when he did, he put in only about $420,000 — a 10 percent interest. That puts the total capitalization of the fund at the time at about $4.2 million — a far cry from the $1.5 billion that Trump has alleged."

1 hour ago, BenStark said:

I think calling someone a troll is also against forum rules.

 

Why should i have to go through your post history to find any links you have posted in the past?

That wasn't my point. If you had read those links you should remember. It's not a contemporaneous allegation. It's old news. If I had referred to new news I would have provided the link. If you aren't familiar with the current affairs under discussion you shouldn't be posting here, let alone challenging for links to news that's a couple of years old.

12 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

That would likely be because biden and the left falsely claimed that he and his family had never taken money from overseas adversaries. Saying he or his family had received money from overseas would get you banned from internet forums. So naturally when the conspiracy theory that the biden family had never received money from overseas was shown to be just that - a conspiracy theory - the new facts were pointed out by conservatives. Conservatives that had been called morons, cultists, liars etc etc.

 

link to these bank transactions biden and his fans were so sure never happened that they shut down facts that were not beneficial to the joe biden narrative being discussed. That is not a good thing.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

 

Still waiting for representatives of the left to tell why these monies they denied ever being paid were paid. Care to explain for us all?

And where is your proof?

 

You claim it so you produce the real proof.

 

If teams from the FBI, the DoJ and Comer's investigative group who have spent man years and cannot find ANY evidence, how come you know all about the alleged crimes?

 

If you DO (and I doubt that you do) have the proof, then publish it.

 

If you don't have the proof then scrabble around in the bucket until you find it.

 

You are so predictably boring.

 

All you have are your words, which TBH are worthless.

12 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So naturally when the conspiracy theory that the biden family had never received money from overseas was shown to be just that - a conspiracy theory - the new facts were pointed out by conservatives.

I don't think one can label not believing in a conspiracy theory as a conspiracy theory itself.

 

The two conspiracy theories that relate to this topic:

 

1. Biden or someone in his family had corrupt ties to foreign entities

2. The FBI, left, woke, democrats, "the man" are hiding the evidence supporting 1.

 

Edited June 4, 20233 yr by eisfeld

I say leave ole joe alone. I don't think my retirement fund would do well with Kamala as president.

On 6/4/2023 at 8:13 PM, billd766 said:

And where is your proof?

 

You claim it so you produce the real proof.

 

If teams from the FBI, the DoJ and Comer's investigative group who have spent man years and cannot find ANY evidence, how come you know all about the alleged crimes?

 

If you DO (and I doubt that you do) have the proof, then publish it.

 

If you don't have the proof then scrabble around in the bucket until you find it.

 

You are so predictably boring.

 

All you have are your words, which TBH are worthless.

If he survives the threats to his life from the left (wonder why they want to end his life?) you will not enjoy the latest testimony from an insider and confidant of the bidens.

 

"He is also expected to testify that despite previous repeated denials, the President was involved in his son's business dealings. Archer says he was present when Joe Biden took part in not one but 24 separate telephone conference calls with Hunter's foreign clients.

That's if Archer actually turns up and isn't found floating face down in Washington's Potomac River. Last night he was reported to have gone into hiding, after friends said he had received unspecified 'threats' against both himself and his family."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12350259/The-scandal-engulfing-Hunter-Biden-grave-Americas-Left-wing-media-ignore-longer-claims-5million-bribes-drugs-prostitutes-surround-Presidents-wayward-son-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html

 

interesting to contrast the treatment of these whistleblowers to Vindman isn't it. Should the GOP have tried to end Vindman's life or falsely accuse him of treason and other high crimes to get rid of him and try undermining his credibility? I'm glad the GOP took the high road and let the nonsense play out in an aquital.

6 hours ago, heybruce said:

What part of "no evidence to support any of this" do you not get?

Not only do they not have evidence, any potential evidence that distorts their narrative is concealed.

 

Democrats claim the GOP is withholding evidence contradicting claims in Hunter Biden probe

Rep. Jamie Raskin, the top Democrat on House Oversight Committee, sent a letter Friday to Rep. James Comer, the Republican chair of the committee, asking him to produce the transcribed interview this month with an FBI agent who worked on the investigation into the younger Biden’s taxes and foreign business dealings. The witness was interviewed on July 17.

“This failure to release a transcript is the latest in your troubling pattern of concealing key evidence in order to advance a false and distorted narrative about your ‘investigation of Joe Biden’ that has not only failed to develop any evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden but has, in fact, uncovered substantial evidence to the contrary,” Raskin wrote in the letter, which was obtained by The Associated Press.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/democrats-claim-gop-withholding-evidence-contradicting-claims-hunter-101769266

On 6/4/2023 at 2:40 PM, BenStark said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-wooed-china-execs-high-level-ccp-ties-while-fundraising-film-venture-dad-vp

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-s-trip-china-son-hunter-2013-comes-under-new-n1061051

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/fact-check-trump-bidens-china/index.html

 

Facts First: There is no evidence that former Vice President Joe Biden received money from China. Though when it comes to Biden’s son Hunter, Trump’s allegations are not thoroughly unfounded.

Just because money comes from China doesn't mean that it comes from the Chinese Govt. It is not a crime to receive money from China. American businesses receive money from China every day. Just because money comes from China doesn't mean that it comes from the Chinese Govt.

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

If he survives the threats to his life from the left (wonder why they want to end his life?) you will not enjoy the latest testimony from an insider and confidant of the bidens.

 

"He is also expected to testify that despite previous repeated denials, the President was involved in his son's business dealings. Archer says he was present when Joe Biden took part in not one but 24 separate telephone conference calls with Hunter's foreign clients.

That's if Archer actually turns up and isn't found floating face down in Washington's Potomac River. Last night he was reported to have gone into hiding, after friends said he had received unspecified 'threats' against both himself and his family."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12350259/The-scandal-engulfing-Hunter-Biden-grave-Americas-Left-wing-media-ignore-longer-claims-5million-bribes-drugs-prostitutes-surround-Presidents-wayward-son-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html

 

interesting to contrast the treatment of these whistleblowers to Vindman isn't it. Should the GOP have tried to end Vindman's life or falsely accuse him of treason and other high crimes to get rid of him and try undermining his credibility? I'm glad the GOP took the high road and let the nonsense play out in an aquital.

If, in fact, Archer testifies , the article in the NY Post said that, according to Archer, Biden only spoke in generalities and platitudes. Did not address the business issues at all. 

And you keep on harping on about the threats to the life of various witnesses. So, with all the resources that Joe Biden commands, how many of these potential witnesses have the intelligence services managed to kill?

Some "disinfo" baiting posts and the replies have been removed.

Yes.

 

If Biden did X, Y, or Z, turn him into a love sponge for both The Bloods and the Crips gangs in prison.

 

Same for Orange Fattie?

On 6/4/2023 at 2:42 PM, Bkk Brian said:

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden’s visit Saturday to support Ukraine’s fragile democracy came soon after his youngest son was hired by a private Ukrainian company that promotes energy independence from Moscow.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-business-c49555d51eb243e09a42f7577fc5937f

You must be really obtuse, or think denial is a river in Africa, to not see the signs on the wall.

 

A private Ukrainian company ????

 

From your own link

 

The hiring of Hunter Biden, 44, by Burisma Holdings Limited in April was approved by the company’s owner, a former senior minister and political ally of Viktor Yanukovych, the exiled Ukrainian president.

 

 

An off topic deflection post about Trump has been removed as this topic is about:

 

Is it Joe Bidens turn to face JAIL?

24 minutes ago, BenStark said:

You must be really obtuse, or think denial is a river in Africa, to not see the signs on the wall.

 

A private Ukrainian company ????

 

From your own link

 

The hiring of Hunter Biden, 44, by Burisma Holdings Limited in April was approved by the company’s owner, a former senior minister and political ally of Viktor Yanukovych, the exiled Ukrainian president.

 

 

Thank you for the confirmation of my post and the facts that it was a private company. But yes I do know where the Nile is, I've travelled on it a couple of time.

37 minutes ago, BenStark said:

You must be really obtuse, or think denial is a river in Africa, to not see the signs on the wall.

 

A private Ukrainian company ????

 

From your own link

 

The hiring of Hunter Biden, 44, by Burisma Holdings Limited in April was approved by the company’s owner, a former senior minister and political ally of Viktor Yanukovych, the exiled Ukrainian president.

 

 

The right wing has been pushing for years that Biden fired Shokin to ward off an ongoing investigation of Burisma. It has been reported over and over again that the dismissal of Shokin was done at the behest of the State Dept and with the approval of President Obama. The EU was also in favor of it. Biden just delivered the message to the Ukrainian govt: if you don't fire Shokin, you don't get money. The problem with Shokin wasn't that he was investigating Burisma, the problem was that he wasn't. Or any of the other corrupt oligarchs. His own staff has testified to that. 

On 6/4/2023 at 8:15 PM, eisfeld said:

I don't think one can label not believing in a conspiracy theory as a conspiracy theory itself.

 

The two conspiracy theories that relate to this topic:

 

1. Biden or someone in his family had corrupt ties to foreign entities

2. The FBI, left, woke, democrats, "the man" are hiding the evidence supporting 1.

 

Next you'll be insisting that atheism is a religion. What a joke.

Seems Victor Shokin is about to do an interview on Fox news in the next couple of hours! 

 

 This will be amusing watching the preposterous false claim that the bidens got Shokin fired for not investigating the firm that was paying bidens unqualified son $1 MILLION a year hard enough get blown out if the water, again. 

 

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12448553

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 20232 yr by SunnyinBangrak

9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Seems Victor Shokin is about to do an interview on Fox news in the next couple of hours! 

 

 This will be amusing watching the preposterous false claim that the bidens got Shokin fired for not investigating the firm that was paying bidens unqualified son $1 MILLION a year hard enough get blown out if the water, again. 

 

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12448553

 

 

 

He's already made enough statements on the media over the last couple of days and admits he has no facts to his accusations just a belief. Great for FOX though, more unsubstantiated allegations to come.....lol

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

He's already made enough statements on the media over the last couple of days and admits he has no facts to his accusations just a belief. Great for FOX though, more unsubstantiated allegations to come.....lol

To be clear. Are you STILL claiming that this $30MILLION so far found paid to the biden family was paid for no reason at all? And the denials that this money was paid and censorship of the fact it was paid was legitimate and authentic after reviewing facts and evidence? And you are easily able to explain why this huge amount of money that the forum's biden fans who all guaranteed it was just fake news and was definitely not paid was paid in the first place?

 

 I think in reality we are all on the same page here. 

Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

To be clear. Are you STILL claiming that this $30MILLION so far found paid to the biden family was paid for no reason at all? And the denials that this money was paid and censorship of the fact it was paid was legitimate and authentic after reviewing facts and evidence? And you are easily able to explain why this huge amount of money that the forum's biden fans who all guaranteed it was just fake news and was definitely not paid was paid in the first place?

 

 I think in reality we are all on the same page here. 

To be clear I am referring to your post and what Victor Shokin said yesterday, ie he has no facts just belief. His words. Sounds familiar to me.

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

To be clear I am referring to your post and what Victor Shokin said yesterday, ie he has no facts just belief. His words. Sounds familiar to me.

Are you unable to answer the question as to why the bidens were paid vast inexplicable sums of money from America's adversaries such as China, Russia and Ukraine?

 

Worth noting, unlike the biden fans Victor Shokin has not had to change his story a dozen times.

Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

Are you unable to answer the question as to why the bidens were paid vast inexplicable sums of money from America's adversaries such as China, Russia and Ukraine?

 

Worth noting, unlike the biden fans Victor Shokin has not had to change his story a dozen times.

We all know Hunter received money, that's obvious. The rest, why answer something I've not seen evidence of? I do realize speculation and allegations are all you've got, that does not mean I have to take part in them.

On 6/4/2023 at 2:44 PM, BenStark said:

Nice deflection, I provided you with links about CHINA business deals.

 

 

Since your original post about this has apparently been deleted by the mods, it's impossible to know what you are getting at. If it's only about allegations against Hunter Biden that's one thing. But as for proving Biden's involvement, you've got nothing. In fact, 2 of the links you provided are to articles that rebut various claims against  Joe Biden. Care to get more specific than merely providing links. How about some quotes?

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

To be clear. Are you STILL claiming that this $30MILLION so far found paid to the biden family was paid for no reason at all? And the denials that this money was paid and censorship of the fact it was paid was legitimate and authentic after reviewing facts and evidence? And you are easily able to explain why this huge amount of money that the forum's biden fans who all guaranteed it was just fake news and was definitely not paid was paid in the first place?

 

 I think in reality we are all on the same page here. 

The same knowingly made inaccuracies again..

- The money has been paid to Hunter "and his allies" such as Archer. You know it, It's been objected to you several times, but you still repost it exactly in the same way;

- nobody objected that Hunter received money, you are making it up again. You know it, It's been objected to you several times, but you still repost it exactly in the same way;

- from your other post (money paid by America's adversaries). Money was paid by companies from the countries mentioned, not by adversaries. Hundreds thousands U.S. companies make business with companies from these countries (including government own companies representing 60% of the economy. You know it, It's been objected to you several times, but you still repost it exactly in the same way.

 

About getting money "for no reason at all" lie, the Burisma part is rather well explained in Archers testimony, and the project with Chinese oil company has also been presented in the media.

 

But go on with the same m.o., and don't be surprised no one takes your posts seriously.

 

On 8/27/2023 at 7:17 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Seems Victor Shokin is about to do an interview on Fox news in the next couple of hours! 

 

 This will be amusing watching the preposterous false claim that the bidens got Shokin fired for not investigating the firm that was paying bidens unqualified son $1 MILLION a year hard enough get blown out if the water, again. 

 

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12448553

 

 

 

Wow. The Daily Wail and Faux News in the same post.

 

You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel, aren't you?

 

No proof as usual,

On 8/27/2023 at 7:40 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

To be clear. Are you STILL claiming that this $30MILLION so far found paid to the biden family was paid for no reason at all? And the denials that this money was paid and censorship of the fact it was paid was legitimate and authentic after reviewing facts and evidence? And you are easily able to explain why this huge amount of money that the forum's biden fans who all guaranteed it was just fake news and was definitely not paid was paid in the first place?

 

 I think in reality we are all on the same page here. 

As I've pointed out before, those figures aren't just for payments to the Biden family but to Hunter Biden's associates as well.

But whatever the amount that ended up with Hunter Biden and 2 others connected to the Biden family, your contention that this qualifies as evidence that Joe Biden was in on it is nonsense. As Devon Archer testified. Hunter Biden told him repeatedly that he was using his father's name to get business. But that, in reality, he had no influence him.  I have no doubt that various characters in China and Eastern Europe hoped to profit from the fact that Hunter Biden was Joe Biden's son. But this does not qualify as evidence that Joe Biden actually  profited from Hunter Biden's dealing or that he was in on Hunter Biden's plans.

Whereas there is  a huge amount of hard evidence to show that Trump lied about this possession of the documents and obstructed justice.

Is it Joe Bidens turn to face JAIL?

 

One can only hope so.