Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years in prison for plot to keep Trump in power

[Scott]

 

 

Stewart Rhodes, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, was sentenced to 18 years in prison on Thursday for leading a far-reaching plot to keep then-President Donald Trump in power after he lost the 2020 election.

The sentence is the first handed down in over a decade for seditious conspiracy.

“What we absolutely cannot have is a group of citizens who – because they did not like the outcome of an election, who did not believe the law was followed as it should be – foment revolution,” District Judge Amit Mehta said before handing down the sentence. “That is what you did.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/politics/oath-keepers-sentencing-stewart-rhodes-kelly-meggs/index.html

[ozimoron]

Trump's turn soon.

[Tug]

That dude is lucky he’s in the states most counties would have executed him as it is personally I think the sentence is light by about ten years minimum and if I may eco the esteemed ozimorn trumps next!!

[Jingthing]

If insurrectionist grifter Trump manages to take power again (tragically it's possible) then he'll likely pardon this criminal and many others that he obviously incited. Trump 2.0 will make Trump 1.0 look like a garden party (if it happens). 

[pegman]

The coward incited others to storm the US Capital building but passed going in himself. Then lamented aftewards that the insurrectionists weren't armed. Personally I think he got off easy. 

[Bkk Brian]

 

Stewart Rhodes, 18 years & Kelly Meggs, 12 years in prison. Insurrectionists. Perhaps when sentence is finished deport them to a nice little town being built in Russia for loons like this.

[ThailandRyan]

Yet in a speech given DeSantis will look at pardoning all of those convicted.  What has the world come to when people who commit crimes get to walk free after being part of an insurrection to overthrow an elected government.

[bamnutsak]

No question which team he'll play for in prison: Aryan Sluggers.

 

He'll be the manager in 90 days.

 

He'll have to bat lefty though. ????

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2023 by bamnutsak

[Credo]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

If insurrectionist grifter Trump manages to take power again (tragically it's possible) then he'll likely pardon this criminal and many others that he obviously incited. Trump 2.0 will make Trump 1.0 look like a garden party (if it happens). 

If I recall correctly, during his townhall on CNN, he said he would pardon those involved in Jan. 6.   

 

[Credo]

Hopefully, they'll keep a close eye on him.

 

[bamnutsak]

41 minutes ago, Credo said:

Hopefully, they'll keep a close eye on him.

 

Easy to sneak up on him the shower?

 

Argh.

 

 

[pegman]

1 hour ago, Credo said:

If I recall correctly, during his townhall on CNN, he said he would pardon those involved in Jan. 6.   

 

I really don't think Trump has much of a chance at regaining the Oval Office. Well, unless Biden gets the nomination once again 

[Jingthing]

40 minutes ago, pegman said:

I really don't think Trump has much of a chance at regaining the Oval Office. Well, unless Biden gets the nomination once again 

Biden is running virtually unopposed.

[Berkshire]

Should have gotten 25 yrs, but 18 will do.  It'll give him some time to realize what a loser in life he's been. 

[LosLobo]

It is amazing the inordinate number associates and minions of Individual One that have gone to jail.

 

Yet the criminal defendant and proven sex predator has evaded it himself.

 

But as Longfellow said in Retribution, 'Though the mills of God grind slowly; Yet they grind exceeding small'.

 

Over 1,000 people now face charges in connection to Jan. 6 riots (axios.com)

 

11 Trump associates have now been charged with crimes. 11! | CNN Politics

 

[pegman]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Biden is running virtually unopposed.

Way too early for Biden to declare himself a lame duck.  American politics would become even more of a 3 ring circus than it already is. LBJ didn't signal he wasn't running again until March 31, 1968. Should Biden use the same timeline that's more than 10 months from now

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, pegman said:

Way too early for Biden to declare himself a lame duck.  American politics would become even more of a 3 ring circus than it already is. LBJ didn't signal he wasn't running again until March 31, 1968. Should Biden use the same timeline that's more than 10 months from now

I'm not clear what you're saying. Biden ALREADY announced this April and at least at this point no democratic party primary presidential debates are planned because no serious challenger has come forward (and most likely none will).

Trump would also be a lame duck if he wins but it's well understand if he gets power again (by election, coup, or civil war) he'll be there for life. 

The only scenario where Biden isn't nominated is because of a health crisis. 

[2009]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

If insurrectionist grifter Trump manages to take power again (tragically it's possible) then he'll likely pardon this criminal and many others that he obviously incited. Trump 2.0 will make Trump 1.0 look like a garden party (if it happens). 

I have to ask: what exactly is it you're afraid of happening if Trump is elected as president again?

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, 2009 said:

I have to ask: what exactly is it you're afraid of happening if Trump is elected as president again?

Fascist dictatorship. American democracy gutted. The constitution gutted. Minorities at risk of their lives even more than now. Fundamentalist Christian theocracy. Abortion made illegal or severely restricted nationally. Criminalization of LGBT people.  No more real elections. Loyalty to dear leader Trump tests of all federal employees and firing all those who fail. Criminalization of opposition journalists as under Putin.  Takeover of election processes in the majority of states to make it impossible for there ever to be fair elections again. Yes they would still have "elections" just as Putin's Russia still has elections. Screwing Ukraine in favor of genocidal war criminal Putin (who Trump clearly loves). 

Edited May 26, 2023 by Jingthing

[2009]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Fascist dictatorship. American democracy gutted. The constitution gutted. Minorities at risk of their lives even more than now. Fundamentalist Christian theocracy. Abortion made illegal or severely restricted nationally. Criminalization of LGBT people.  No more real elections. Loyalty to dear leader Trump tests of all federal employees and firing all those who fail. Criminalization of opposition journalists as under Putin.  Takeover of election processes in the majority of states to make it impossible for there ever to be fair elections again. Yes they would still have "elections" just as Putin's Russia still has elections. Screwing Ukraine in favor of genocidal war criminal Putin (who Trump clearly loves). 

A bit far far fetched, isn't it?

[Jingthing]

20 minutes ago, 2009 said:

A bit far far fetched, isn't it?

Not for anyone who has been paying attention to what that horrible man has done and said. I get it. You don't get it. Dictator types historically get MUCH WORSE if they lose power and regain. Trump back in power means the end of American democracy. That is not an extreme outlier interpretation in the slightest.

[Rimmer]

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[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

A bit far far fetched, isn't it?

Not at all!

 

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term

 

A radical plan for Trump’s second term

Edited May 26, 2023 by Jingthing

[Purdey]

While Trump did not order the national guard to put down the insurrection, most being charged were actually there physically. He may be charged with something but not with leading it I suspect.

De Santis can say anything at this point. It will be up to the voters whether he can do anything.

[Peabody]

2 hours ago, 2009 said:

I have to ask: what exactly is it you're afraid of happening if Trump is elected as president again?

The actions of Twitler on steroids.

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Purdey said:

While Trump did not order the national guard to put down the insurrection, most being charged were actually there physically. He may be charged with something but not with leading it I suspect.

De Santis can say anything at this point. It will be up to the voters whether he can do anything.

It really depends on who the DOJ has turned. Charges related to inciting an insurrection are not off the table yet. 

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, 2009 said:

I have to ask: what exactly is it you're afraid of happening if Trump is elected as president again?

Are you imagining that these morons have been sentenced to many years imprisonment and that Trump had nothing to do with it despite being investigated to years over it and having been warned to expect an indictment? There's ample evidence to show that his people had their fingers all over this. Trump won't be re-elected or even nominated. Why do you think so many people threw their hat in the ring for the GOP nomination this week?

Edited May 26, 2023 by ozimoron

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Are you imagining that these morons have been sentenced to many years imprisonment and that Trump had nothing to do with it despite being investigated to years over it and having been warned to expect an indictment? There's ample evidence to show that his people had their fingers all over this. Trump won't be re-elected or even nominated. Why do you think so many people threw their hat in the ring for the GOP nomination this week?

Trump is still leading. Only DeSantis is anywhere near competitive at this point. Trump can still run and be elected after felony convictions and from prison. Don't rule out the threat of Trump in power again until he's literally finished (just as Putin). To his cult he is seen as a messianic figure, they worship him, and many are willing to die for him. 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yet in a speech given DeSantis will look at pardoning all of those convicted.  What has the world come to when people who commit crimes get to walk free after being part of an insurrection to overthrow an elected government.

Overt interference in Justice.

 

Any person indicted will have the possibility of a De Santis pardon in mind when faced with their options to cooperate and give testimony.

 

 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trump is still leading. Only DeSantis is anywhere near competitive at this point. Trump can still run and be elected after felony convictions and from prison. Don't rule out the threat of Trump in power again until he's literally finished (just as Putin). To his cult he is seen as a messianic figure, they worship him, and many are willing to die for him. 

I think very few fascists will put their hands up for him when they see the sentences being handed out. Any indictments for insurrection or inciting riots will not go well with swing voters. Trump needs more than the base to be re-elected.