2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

She's selling sex for money ........... nothing else.

She lies and her customers lie right back.

It's not as if she'll do it for free if the customer lies to her, still the same price.

 

As for them having feelings ....... you're having a laugh!

After the first week, they have no feelings.

Not every bar girl is charging any money after bar fine is paid, and some truly searching for partner working asa bar girl, or at least started in first place with that image in their head.

 

Some girls not even work a week before they are taken out of a bar, and are living proofs feeding the dreams of other girls, and the same happening to them. 

12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im more interested in the social experiment when it comes to peoples behaviors and patterns than the use of the girls itself. 

 

You are more than welcome to give me such great renomme! Thank you!

555 Id be more interested in knocking her down a bit once I've paid the bar fine for her to leave the bar. Not really arsed about the social side of it I have paid for goods.

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Not every bar girl is charging any money after bar fine is paid, and some truly searching for partner working asa bar girl, or at least started in first place with that image in their head.

 

Some girls not even work a week before they are taken out of a bar, and are living proofs feeding the dreams of other girls, and the same happening to them. 

Let me enlighten you a little Hummin a prostitute is a female that accepts money for sexual favours. One of the oldest professions in the world. It doesn't matter if she is a hooker on the street or a girl in a bar she is exchanging money for sex, if you do not wish to have sex with her you will still pay a fee for the service.

37 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

555 Id be more interested in knocking her down a bit once I've paid the bar fine for her to leave the bar. Not really arsed about the social side of it I have paid for goods.

It is easier to think, or not to think at all to enjoy life as a customer. Less painful and also easier to justify your actions without any doubt or concerns about people who end up like the ones who sell their body. 

 

They are humans and have feelings to either you are willing to reckonize it or not. 

 

I understand they got a job to do, and also customers who pay have expectations, but the hole point is, how girls become the hard pro so many here complain about. There is a whole tread going with bar girls and lies, many treads about broken  marriages and personality changes among their wifes. Wonder where that comes from. 

Where does it come from ? Greed, insecurity, and why does she have more gold than me.

Like it or not Hummin girls have a choice in Thailand.  There is an easy way or the hard way most young girls from a village are going for the easy way. Sadly encouraged by parents.

7 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Like it or not Hummin girls have a choice in Thailand.  There is an easy way or the hard way most young girls from a village are going for the easy way. Sadly encouraged by parents.

We all have choices, and some or many make bad decisions for them self, based on the environment they coming from or the place they seeking happiness, be it long term expectations or short term. 

On 7/7/2023 at 5:53 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

Therefore, I would prefer to think of the girls in Pattaya as FRIENDS.

Friend is a better word than Prostitute, in my view.

Do you generally pay friends for company or activities? That's really sad.
 

3 minutes ago, orchis said:

Do you generally pay friends for company or activities? That's really sad.
 

I never said that I paid.

I only said that prostitutes have been my friends over the years.

Think Suzy Wong, maybe, although I am no painter.

 

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

I understand they got a job to do, and also customers who pay have expectations, but the hole point is, how girls become the hard pro so many here complain about. There is a whole tread going with bar girls and lies, many treads about broken  marriages and personality changes among their wifes. Wonder where that comes from. 

Talking about treads ....... I think these four may have encountered a monster truck .............

 

14 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Talking about treads ....... I think these four may have encountered a monster truck .............

 

Im not sure what you say, but those girls look branded property! 

 

Reality for one, doesnt mean it is the same reality for others. 

 

The problems in Thailand is a goverment issue, or lack of government to serve, protect, educate and guide their children, and give them fear chances to become someone who is ready to meat the reality as grown ups. 

 

Im sure if not agree with my statement, most will agree Thailand have a dysfunctional system who do not serve and protect their people. Especially the ones with lesser potential or resources from countryside who more often ends up in bars in tourist areas.

 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Im sure if not agree with my statement, most will agree Thailand have a dysfunctional system who do not serve and protect their people. Especially the ones with lesser potential or resources from countryside who more often ends up in bars in tourist areas.

If Thailand had a functional system we'd all be living a solitary sexless existence, like all the men that stayed in their western home country.

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

If Thailand had a functional system we'd all be living a solitary sexless existence, like all the men that stayed in their western home country.

Well not all of us, some will have options wherever they are or go. But cant deny bars and nightclubs is a great place to meet people no matter if they work there or not. 

 

Even 6 in the morning walking the beaches, is a great place to meet local girls and ladies.

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

 

 

As for them having feelings ....... you're having a laugh!

After the first weeks, they have no feelings.

Not exactly.

 

Sometimes they get angry if a customer disrespects them.

33 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Even 6 in the morning walking the beaches, is a great place to meet local girls and ladies.

Not in Pattaya, the desperate leftovers are hanging about including ladyboys

12 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Not in Pattaya, the desperate leftovers are hanging about including ladyboys

Yeah this a pretty sick thread maybe I'm too old now.????

34 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Not in Pattaya, the desperate leftovers are hanging about including ladyboys

I have walked every beach I have stayed, but not Pattaya beach. Jomtien there is many early  birds make a walk or run before they start they day whatever they do, and if you walk the beach same time every day, you meet many of the same day after day, since it is their morning routines, and have met and dated a few of those as well during my years in Thailand. 

 

Most common for the more structured ladies in real jobs, they are dead boring, and not much time left for a foreigner who will end up waiting for them to have their limited days off and their short holidays. 

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Aren't we all?

Or did you come for temples and meditation, and have never had sex with a Thai?

I've had sex with numerous Thais but never felt the need to shout about it.

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Well not all of us, some will have options wherever they are or go. But cant deny bars and nightclubs is a great place to meet people no matter if they work there or not. 

 

Even 6 in the morning walking the beaches, is a great place to meet local girls and ladies.

And glue sniffers/ ya ba heads

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Well not all of us, some will have options wherever they are or go. But cant deny bars and nightclubs is a great place to meet people no matter if they work there or not. 

 

Even 6 in the morning walking the beaches, is a great place to meet local girls and ladies.

Yes because at that time of the Morning their doing the walk of shame.

9 hours ago, Hummin said:

Most common for the more structured ladies in real jobs, they are dead boring, and not much time left for a foreigner who will end up waiting for them to have their limited days off and their short holidays

That's true, very busy working and only get public holidays, that's one reason falang take over as employer

9 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Yes because at that time of the Morning their doing the walk of shame.

at the beach, right, you are funny

20 hours ago, Hummin said:

Who is naive? 

 

I just do not understand such questions importance, or why these treads comes and goes again and again discussing prostitutes. We all know whats going on in the different bars, who is up for going, and who is not. Some girls is more professionals than others, and those you should learn to know and understand. 

 

Many of the girls is naive and have the eyes  on a better future for them and their families, and do what it takes to succeed after learning and hearing som many stories about others who was lucky. 

 

The establishments is a wide concept from priority to sell beer and drinks, to more pure selling girls for sex and between a mix. 

 

Soapies? I guess it is pure sensual massage to pure happy ending as 100% guarantee, where the girls have little or nothing to say who she have to go with.. Whoever picks here, she have to service! Right? What do you think about the girls can not choose themselves? 

Every body massage I had, the happy ending was not included ( that would be enforced prostitution ), but negotiated at the end, so no, she doesn't have to "service" the customer. She does have to do a massage, end of.

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Every body massage I had, the happy ending was not included ( that would be enforced prostitution ), but negotiated at the end, so no, she doesn't have to "service" the customer. She does have to do a massage, end of.

In CM

Sayuri and PingPayom sex was included

VIP shower and Daisuki includes the happy ending, but there are other options to be negotiated.

16 hours ago, Hummin said:

Im not sure what you say, but those girls look branded property! 

 

Reality for one, doesnt mean it is the same reality for others. 

 

The problems in Thailand is a goverment issue, or lack of government to serve, protect, educate and guide their children, and give them fear chances to become someone who is ready to meat the reality as grown ups. 

 

Im sure if not agree with my statement, most will agree Thailand have a dysfunctional system who do not serve and protect their people. Especially the ones with lesser potential or resources from countryside who more often ends up in bars in tourist areas.

 

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To my knowledge prostitution exists in every western country. Are you saying their governments don't serve, protect, educate and guide their children? ( IMO they don't, but that's another topic )

Just now, BritManToo said:

In CM

Sayuri and PingPayom sex was included

VIP shower and Daisuki includes the happy ending, but there are other options to be negotiated.

I never found a body massage place in C M to know ( the one in the Ping Hotel was closed ), but in Pattaya and Bkk it wasn't, unless they were having me on.

19 hours ago, Hummin said:

Less painful and also easier to justify your actions without any doubt or concerns about people who end up like the ones who sell their body. 

LOL. I "sold my body" to make money in every job I ever did, given I was a manual worker and not some office worker just on the computer or phone. Does that make me a prostitute?

Perhaps you should be more specific about the body part they are renting out.

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. I "sold my body" to make money in every job I ever did, given I was a manual worker and not some office worker just on the computer or phone. Does that make me a prostitute?

Perhaps you should be more specific about the body part they are renting out.

Do you think office workers are not selling their bodies as well? 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

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To my knowledge prostitution exists in every western country. Are you saying their governments don't serve, protect, educate and guide their children? ( IMO they don't, but that's another topic )

To my experience, most prostitutes in my country is from dysfunctional countries. Not many left who is origin borned in Norway in comparison. Same for most countries in Europe I believe. ?

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. I "sold my body" to make money in every job I ever did, given I was a manual worker and not some office worker just on the computer or phone. Does that make me a prostitute?

Perhaps you should be more specific about the body part they are renting out.

Please read the original post, and the topic is? ????????