US ‘concerned’ about developments in legal system after Thailand’s election

[Nicholas Paul KNIGHT]

Nice for a country which is split into almost TWO by the actions of one man to keep control illegally to talk about another country doing the same thing albeit a group rather than one man.

 

America when and if ever your country resumes normalacy you can talk , before that remember PEOPLE in GLASS houses should NOT THROW STONES !!!!!!!!!!

[Bangkok Barry]

8 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

The world will condemn  

The world doesn't care. The country and its government has no influence and is of no importance to anyone and anything anywhere outside of its borders.

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, TheTightArseTraveller said:

Pita is a US puppet- hence their ‘concern’.

The US should mind their own business for once and keep their filthy hands out of Thai politics.

 

Is there any evidence, I mean hard evidence, for that claim?

[bradiston]

24 minutes ago, h90 said:

And having a 2 party system that prevents any new ideas.

But no the US imperialism is not ending and also not the USD.....Other currencies will loose, probable even the Euro and people will go into the safe USD....keeping it stable. At the end with ever increasing spending it will collapse but that can be a decade in future and with the strongest military they can squeeze out money and resources from other countries

Oh dear oh dear. Why pick on the US? I thought you were against all governments everywhere. Or so you said. Is the US any worse than China? Or Russia? Where would you prefer to live? I don't see any queues to get into those two. You seem to reserve your criticisms and rants solely for the US. Where's the anti Putin rant? Or the anti Xi rant?

[Deez]

The days of listening to the USA on morals and democracy are over.  They are just as corrupt as Thailand

[Chongalulu]

1 hour ago, fdimike said:

The US just loves to stick it's big nose into other countries business.  One can only guess just how much "back door" support is being funneled into the Thai government. 

So you don't think international comment on an abuse of democracy is appropriate? And do please give us your specific guess of ,"back door support ” for democracy... 

[bradiston]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

US expresses concern about the democratic ‘will of the people’ as tension mounts over legal case
by James Morris and Son Nguyen

 

Top spokesman at the US State Department, Matthew Miller, told reporters at a regular press conference that the United States was concerned about the possible outcome of several legal cases in the kingdom and that the ‘will of the people’ in the aftermath of the May 14th General Election, is not stifled as fears mount over a case taken up by the Constitutional Court last Wednesday alleging that the Move Forward Party has breached Section 49 of the 2017 Constitution in campaigning for reform of Article 112 of the Criminal Code on lèse-majesté.

A decisive 48 hours in Thai politics in which anything may happen with fears of a Constitutional Court intervention removing the Move Forward Party and the candidacy of Pita Limjaroenrat for Prime Minister or the nomination of Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan for the job in parliament attracting more support than anticipated while on Thursday Pheu Thai, if there is not a decisive outcome on Wednesday, will probably nominate property tycoon turned businessman Srettha Thavisin. 

As Thailand faces the second round of decisive votes to elect the kingdom’s next Prime Minister, there is growing concern about a Constitutional Court petition which could see the Move Forward Party dissolved. This was referenced on Monday night by the US State Department in Washington DC where a spokesman said the United States was concerned about the situation in the kingdom and respect for the democratic will of the people.

 

The US State Department in Washington has gone on record expressing concern at the situation in the aftermath of the May 14th General Election in Thailand. A top spokesman for the State Department, Mr Matthew Miller referred to the pending legal cases being reviewed since last Wednesday by the Constitutional Court. 

 

Full story: https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/07/18/us-state-department-concern-about-will-of-the-people-legal-cases-court/

 

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Great article. Clarifies the confusion created by the previous one. The concern is for democracy, not the military!

[SunshineSeeker]

The US has no democracy, it is the corrupt of the corrupt. Look at those who tried to stop a valid election killing police etc. How can they even think of lecturing other countries.

[IamNoone88]

America will do nothing. They need as many friends in Asia as possible as they continue to try and constrain China's power and reach in the region. America blinked in recent years and its not been going well so far for them as Beijing continues to makes friends with money and economic power. Most countries have a border or territory dispute with China  - the nine dash line and free shipping passage - Vietnam (Ironically Americas old foe is a land border issue and islands), Philippines (Island dispute),  Malaysia (Island dispute), Japan, Taiwan and poor old Australia sitting nervously down under. India won't get involved as it also wants its own influence as it gets stronger. Its a delicate mess and China is unlikely to give up it claims to most of the South China sea based upon a scappy 1946 hand drawn map that gives claim to most of the South China Sea. So America may make a little squeak here and there but will try and cozy up nicely to whoever holds the reins. 

[soalbundy]

9 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

It shows there is no democracy in Thailand although they pretend Thailand is.... Now they show their real face hat there is a Junta in power that blocks all democratic processes.. The world will condemn  

ooooooooh condemn, scary.

[wwest5829]

2 hours ago, TheTightArseTraveller said:

Pita is a US puppet- hence their ‘concern’.

The US should mind their own business for once and keep their filthy hands out of Thai politics.

 

Cute good to know other nations do not express their own views publicly or behind the scenes.

[jacko45k]

43 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Is there any evidence, I mean hard evidence, for that claim?

Of course not... just read it in rantingravingloonies.com

[Pink Mist]

An unsupported unsubstantiated personal rant against the US has been removed. Multiple off-topic posts have also been removed. A post on the Monarchy has also been removed.  This OP has nothing to do with former presidents of the US, indictments, bombings etc....Stay on topic please.

 

US ‘concerned’ about developments in legal system after Thailand’s election

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, neeray said:

Ambitious or not, it's about time somebody has the cajones to stand up to the current powers. Enough is enough !

But how to do it?

[Zack61]

1 hour ago, h90 said:

1869 (Wikipedia) at least Thailand has different parties

But it’s only the military backed ones that are allowed to form a government. The fact there are many parties means absolutely nothing other than offering a facade for democratic elections. 
US criticism is only going to push the Junta closer to Xi and Vlad because they know these two will not publicly criticise any injustices they may inflict upon the Thai people. It’s all about face. 

[alien365]

Anyone simpleton could have seen this was going to happen when Prayut hand picked the senate several years ago. Nobody seemed to care back then and so we are seeing the consequences of it now. 

[RandolphGB]

10 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

It shows there is no democracy in Thailand although they pretend Thailand is.... Now they show their real face hat there is a Junta in power that blocks all democratic processes.. The world will condemn  

Well done, Sherlock. It's been this way in Thailand for more than half a century. Nothing is changing anytime soon. 

 

 

 

 

[Chongalulu]

41 minutes ago, SunshineSeeker said:

The US has no democracy, it is the corrupt of the corrupt. Look at those who tried to stop a valid election killing police etc. How can they even think of lecturing other countries.

The point is it was not allowed to succeed. How about Thailand?!?

[jacko45k]

4 minutes ago, alien365 said:

Anyone simpleton could have seen this was going to happen when Prayut hand picked the senate several years ago. Nobody seemed to care back then and so we are seeing the consequences of it now. 

Have you known regular Thai people to worry about the future, plan ahead, perform maintenance.....at the time, there were certainly comments and complaints... but tomorrow problems are put aside until tomorrow. Prayut and the team have been smart....

[ikke1959]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

The world doesn't care. The country and its government has no influence and is of no importance to anyone and anything anywhere outside of its borders.

That is true ,, but do tourists think of that too??? It is another problem, not only scamming, overpricing, bad service, no smiles anymore, political unrest etc etc... Other countries  can be a better choice. Myanmar is not attractive to tourists at the moment too

[JensenX]

Now the US government is concerned about Democracy in Thailand, but they were quite happy to accept a coup leader as PM after the last elections and didn't seem to object too strongly about the coup leader drafting a new constitution. 

 

It would be better if the US minded their own business as they have more than enough problems of their own. Considering their own political circus, it's hard to take them seriously these days.

[neeray]

2 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Unfortunately there is no constitution in Thailand, only a package of laws and rules they call a constitution but are ment to keep the the military in power after each election. It is the junta that rules and there will never be possibility to get a civil government, although they pretend they are democratic... Indeed the Us is the first to speak out and other countries will follow...Legal system is only for the military benefit

I personally hope that other countries will follow the US lead.

[JensenX]

10 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Have you known regular Thai people to worry about the future, plan ahead, perform maintenance.....at the time, there were certainly comments and complaints... but tomorrow problems are put aside until tomorrow. Prayut and the team have been smart....

There's a lot of benefit to living by the day and not stressing too much about the future. It's probably one of the reasons you are living in Thailand.

[Roosterlips]

Ah yes, the USA. With all the values, ethics and scruples of a pack of soi dogs, sticking their nose into something not at all having to do with them. When will their Navy find an excuse to start “naval exercises” in the Andaman Sea. 

[alien365]

20 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Have you known regular Thai people to worry about the future, plan ahead, perform maintenance.....at the time, there were certainly comments and complaints... but tomorrow problems are put aside until tomorrow. Prayut and the team have been smart....

I know what you mean, but I think the US and other governments would have known exactly what was going on, yet they chose to ignore it focusing on being diplomatic. It's a bit rich of the US to voice concern now in my mind. 

They should have done so when the military were changing the constitution. 

[h90]

35 minutes ago, Zack61 said:

But it’s only the military backed ones that are allowed to form a government. The fact there are many parties means absolutely nothing other than offering a facade for democratic elections. 
US criticism is only going to push the Junta closer to Xi and Vlad because they know these two will not publicly criticise any injustices they may inflict upon the Thai people. It’s all about face. 

look the last 30 years in Thailand how many different parties had the PM.....

[h90]

15 minutes ago, Roosterlips said:

Ah yes, the USA. With all the values, ethics and scruples of a pack of soi dogs, sticking their nose into something not at all having to do with them. When will their Navy find an excuse to start “naval exercises” in the Andaman Sea. 

Soi Dogs aren't that bad

[bamnutsak]

Quote from the article

 

Miller, asked at a regular press briefing about the situation in Thailand, said Washington does not have a preferred outcome in the Thai election, but supports a process that reflects the will of the Thai people.

 

Video and transcript...Thailand bit starts at 22:20

 

Department Press Briefing – July 17, 2023

 

https://www.state.gov/briefings/department-press-briefing-july-17-2023/

 

 

QUESTION: And just moving on to a slightly different issue, Thailand, last week the parliament was unable to – or didn’t approve Pita, the head of the Move Forward Party, to become the prime minister. I wondered – I know the U.S. has kind of spoken a little bit to the current sort of post-election environment in Thailand. But are you concerned that the party – Move Forward is the party that won the most seats in the elections in May – that a government could end up being formed without them being represented?

 

MR MILLER: Let me say a few things. First, the United States doesn’t have a preferred outcome in the Thai election. We don’t support any particular party or politician. What we do support is multiparty democracy and a post-election process that reflects the will of the Thai people and supports a democratic and prosperous future for Thailand.

 

We are very closely watching the post-election developments. That includes the recent developments in the legal system, which are of concern. We believe this moment is an opportunity for Thailand to demonstrate its commitment to democracy.

 

QUESTION: Just you mentioned developments in the legal system that are of concern. I wonder if you could say a little bit more clearly, if Mr. Pita is disqualified from taking office or if the party is dissolved, does that represent a red line for the U.S.?

 

MR MILLER: I don’t want to speculate about how we might react to events that have not yet occurred. I will say that we are watching it closely and the recent developments are of concern to us.

 

 

 

 

[Pink Mist]

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US ‘concerned’ about developments in legal system after Thailand’s election

[bradiston]

16 minutes ago, h90 said:

Soi Dogs aren't that bad

At least the US makes the effort and takes the time to condemn the political interference in the Thai election. It might count for something amongst the military élite. I don't see China or Russia condemning the Myanmar generals, nor the North Korean/Syrian/Iranian dictators. They both actively support all 4. They block any criticism in the UN security council.

 

Any opportunity to target the US, and up you pop. Is it maybe a personal thing?