Despite Being Blasted, Chuwit Insists Thaksin Not Returning On Aug. 10

[webfact]

 

FORMER MP and graft-buster Chuwit Kamolvisit reconfirmed today (July 29) that former prime minister/de facto Pheu Thai Party boss Thaksin Shinawatra will not be returning to Thailand on August 10 despite his daughter Paetongtarn Shinawatra saying this is just a delirious projection,TV Channel 7 said.

 

Chuwit had late last night posted a message on his Facebook page saying “The game has flipped, Thaksin has retreated, cancels return to Thailand, the situation has changed,” with this prompting Paetongtarn to say this morning that he was just delirious.

 

However Chuwit later said he was not angry at Paetongtarn who wants her father to return to Thailand and he also would like to do so but she might not know all the conditions put up.

 

Certainly on August 10 it will be revealed which one is delirious, he added.

 

Chuwit also said he is certain a new prime minister will not emerge on Aug. 4 when the next House/Senate meeting takes place to vote for one.

 

by TNR Staff 

Former MP Chuwit Kamolvisit and Thaksin Shinawatra’s daughter Paetongtarn Shinawatra who is one of three Pheu Thai candidates for prime minister. Top photo: TV Channel 7

 

Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/07/29/despite-being-blasted-chuwit-insists-thaksin-not-returning-on-aug-10/

 

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[2baht]

I tend to believe Chuwit!

[hotchilli]

10 minutes ago, 2baht said:

I tend to believe Chuwit!

He knows more than most as he has knowledge from the inner sanctom

[bannork]

Jatuporn says the same. He says being pardoned is not as straightforward as some make out, especially for corruption cases. There can be objections to the release of the prisoner.

And once Thaksin has handed himself over to the authorities, he has lost all autonomy. Can he trust them to keep their side of the deal?

Time will tell.

 

 

[ChrisY1]

Of course Thaksin isn't returning....he's a coward!

[scottiejohn]

32 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

Of course Thaksin isn't returning....he's a coward!

How is it "cowardly" to not want to spend any time in a Thai Prison?

[bannork]

4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

How is it "cowardly" to not want to spend any time in a Thai Prison?

He's a coward because when the red shirts faced off against the army, he said he would be back on the front line as soon as the first shots were fired 

When the first shots were fired, he went shopping in a Paris luxury brand store.

He's a coward because he didn't dare debate Abhisit on TV prior the election ( years back). He claimed it wasn't Thai style.

He's a coward because he tried to shut down criticism of himself. Papers were deprived of state revenue and individuals were sued. 

[JonnyF]

Bearing in mind the individuals involved, I can see some double crossing. Here are 2 possibilities.

 

1.   They promise to pardon him then leave him locked up for years on technicalities.

2.  They pardon him and then he reneges on his promise to back the Army when released.

 

Many other possibilities for a stitch up on either side. Oh what a tangled web we weave...

[SoilSpoil]

27 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

How is it "cowardly" to not want to spend any time in a Thai Prison?

Thaksin sent his red footsoldiers to the  'front', promising them to join them. He never did, of course, 

 

19 minutes ago, bannork said:

He's a coward because when the red shirts faced off against the army, he said he would be back on the front line as soon as the first shots were fired 

When the first shots were fired, he went shopping in a Paris luxury brand store.

He's a coward because he didn't dare debate Abhisit on TV prior the election ( years back). He claimed it wasn't Thai style.

He's a coward because he tried to shut down criticism of himself. Papers were deprived of state revenue and individuals were sued. 

Wow, was about to find my words, but you describe it perfectly. 

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

 

And once Thaksin has handed himself over to the authorities, he has lost all autonomy. Can he trust them to keep their side of the deal?

Time will tell.

 

 

I wouldn't trust them with any deal. You are quite right, once he is here in their clutches he is at their mercy. Sure, there will be a load of screaming initially if he goes to jail and they will do what they do best, keep quiet and wait for the dust to settle.

 

26 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

How is it "cowardly" to not want to spend any time in a Thai Prison?

Nothing to do with cowardice and Thaksin should know the mechanics of a system he helped create.

 

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Bearing in mind the individuals involved, I can see some double crossing. Here are 2 possibilities.

 

1.   They promise to pardon him then leave him locked up for years on technicalities.

2.  They pardon him and then he reneges on his promise to back the Army when released.

 

Many other possibilities for a stitch up on either side. Oh what a tangled web we weave...

I'd go for number 1 in this scenario.

 

However, I do not believe he will be here on August 10th.

 

I'd bet the farm on the unlikelihood of him returning even at risk of getting egg on my face. This guy has no intention of spending one day in a Thai prison at 74 years old. Similar story of Kamnan Poh, how long did he spend in jail?, and Thaksin has more ' clout ' than he had.

 

I think a load more ' hot air ' will be pushed around and more excuses made ready about ' not being the right time '  

 

His haters are still in the driving seat of this country.

[sammieuk1]

New pea for Chuwits whistle please ????

[scorecard]

51 minutes ago, bannork said:

He's a coward because when the red shirts faced off against the army, he said he would be back on the front line as soon as the first shots were fired 

When the first shots were fired, he went shopping in a Paris luxury brand store.

He's a coward because he didn't dare debate Abhisit on TV prior the election ( years back). He claimed it wasn't Thai style.

He's a coward because he tried to shut down criticism of himself. Papers were deprived of state revenue and individuals were sued. 

One incident, a foreign news reporter asked him an awkward question at a news conference.

 

The paymaster responded 'Idiot scum'.

 

The reporter was deported the next day.

[blackshadow]

3 hours ago, 2baht said:

I tend to believe Chuwit!

me too

[2baht]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

How is it "cowardly" to not want to spend any time in a Thai Prison?

Do the crime, do the time!

[webfact]

Fate of Thaksin linked to political fate of the kingdom as Chuwit predicts his return deal is off
by Joseph O' Connor

 

Thaksin faces a momentous personal decision to run the gauntlet of being arrested at Don Mueang Airport and lodged at Bangkok Remand Prison on Thursday, August 10th with the prospects of a 10-year jail term ahead of him and potential future charges while the Pheu Thai Party faces instantaneous loss of its long term support base if it enters a coalition government as part of a ‘super deal’ with parties associated with the outgoing government and the former military junta. A deal is reported to be in place but over the weekend, doubts were reported to be setting in.

The return of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra is becoming enmeshed with the current power struggle at a political level going on between conservative and progressive forces after the General Election threw up a result which has put the Pheu Thai Party in the centre of the political spectrum with the capability of swinging political power in Thailand from one group to another. The fate of Mr Thaksin, who is the de facto leader of the party, has thus become linked to the political fate of the country and is at the confluence of a plot hatched by the conservatives to break up the eight-party coalition pact signed by the Move Forward Party, the Pheu Thai Party and six other smaller parties for a ‘Government of Hope’ on the 22nd May 2023, nine years to the day after the 2014 coup d’état. On Friday, the planned return of Mr Thaksin on August 10th to Thailand, announced by his daughter on July 26th, was thrown into doubt when Mr Chuwit Kamolvisit, the political activist who has a knack for detecting what is happening behind the scenes, revealed that Mr Thaksin has gotten cold feet fearing that he may be the victim of deception.

 

Up until Friday in Bangkok, it was accepted that former Premier Thaksin Shinawatra would be returning to Thailand on August 10th next. He was expected to land at Don Mueang Airport. 

 

On Friday afternoon, the Director General of the Department of Corrections, Ayuth Sintoppant, came forward to assure the public that the former premier would be safely incarcerated in prison after his arrest on August 10th by Immigration Bureau officers on arrival back in Thailand. 

 

Full story: https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/07/30/fate-of-thaksin-linked-to-political-moves-government-pheu-thai-conservative-progressive/

 

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[2baht]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

How is it "cowardly" to not want to spend any time in a Thai Prison?

How cowardly is it to run away in the first place?

[newnative]

    Sad figure, in my opinion.  Desperately needs the limelight.  Desperately needs to still feel relevant.  Desperately needs to still feel important.  Desperately needs to still feel powerful.  I can't imagine why he would risk years of prison except for the previous mentioned desperate needs.

[pomchop]

15 minutes ago, 2baht said:

How cowardly is it to run away in the first place?

How many people would NOT want to run away after being removed by a military coup and their courts?  He would have been an idiot not to hit the road as the deck was stacked against him.

[2baht]

1 minute ago, pomchop said:

How many people would NOT want to run away after being removed by a military coup and their courts?  He would have been an idiot not to hit the road as the deck was stacked against him.

Don't you just love democracy! 

[bannork]

10 minutes ago, pomchop said:

How many people would NOT want to run away after being removed by a military coup and their courts?  He would have been an idiot not to hit the road as the deck was stacked against him.

Fine but don't announce multiple times ( how many now? over 10 for sure) that you're coming home, and then you don't!

 

[Scouse123]

36 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Don't you just love democracy! 

Well obviously Thais don't, that is why there is none.

[Scouse123]

27 minutes ago, bannork said:

Fine but don't announce multiple times ( how many now? over 10 for sure) that you're coming home, and then you don't!

 

He is trying to remain relevant, it is something that all narcissists feel they must do.

 

If your count is correct, then August 10th you won't need a calculator to know it's 11 times and more!

 

He ain't coming back.

 

 

[Scouse123]

42 minutes ago, pomchop said:

How many people would NOT want to run away after being removed by a military coup and their courts?  He would have been an idiot not to hit the road as the deck was stacked against him.

Yes,

 

But initially he was the dealer!

 

Until the Pit Boss replaced him.

[pomchop]

44 minutes ago, bannork said:

Fine but don't announce multiple times ( how many now? over 10 for sure) that you're coming home, and then you don't!

 

Yes he is "truth challenged" but then again the generals are not exactly models of integrity.

[Jeff the Chef]

The return of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra is becoming enmeshed with the current power struggle at a political level going on between conservative and progressive forces after the General Election threw up a result which has put the Pheu Thai Party in the centre of the political spectrum with the capability of swinging political power in Thailand from one group to another. The fate of Mr Thaksin, who is the de facto leader of the party, has thus become linked to the political fate of the country and is at the confluence of a plot hatched by the conservatives to break up the eight-party coalition pact signed by the Move Forward Party, the Pheu Thai Party and six other smaller parties for a ‘Government of Hope’ on the 22nd May 2023, nine years to the day after the 2014 coup d’état. On Friday, the planned return of Mr Thaksin on August 10th to Thailand, announced by his daughter on July 26th, was thrown into doubt when Mr Chuwit Kamolvisit, the political activist who has a knack for detecting what is happening behind the scenes, revealed that Mr Thaksin has gotten cold feet fearing that he may be the victim of deception.

 

This is to me, is what the powers that be are wanting to do, break up the coalition at all costs, because they have now realised all that they put in place to stay in power is in jeopardy with no Senators from next year. 

OK, they could stage another coup but that will be at the risk of killing the economy that they have been feeding off for the past however many years. 

Interesting times are ahead.

[wombat]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

Fine but don't announce multiple times ( how many now? over 10 for sure) that you're coming home, and then you don't!

 

anyone taking odds on a no show?

[wombat]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

he may be the victim of deception.

tear to my glass eye soap opera drama this is????????

[bradiston]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Fate of Thaksin linked to political fate of the kingdom as Chuwit predicts his return deal is off
by Joseph O' Connor

 

Thaksin faces a momentous personal decision to run the gauntlet of being arrested at Don Mueang Airport and lodged at Bangkok Remand Prison on Thursday, August 10th with the prospects of a 10-year jail term ahead of him and potential future charges while the Pheu Thai Party faces instantaneous loss of its long term support base if it enters a coalition government as part of a ‘super deal’ with parties associated with the outgoing government and the former military junta. A deal is reported to be in place but over the weekend, doubts were reported to be setting in.

The return of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra is becoming enmeshed with the current power struggle at a political level going on between conservative and progressive forces after the General Election threw up a result which has put the Pheu Thai Party in the centre of the political spectrum with the capability of swinging political power in Thailand from one group to another. The fate of Mr Thaksin, who is the de facto leader of the party, has thus become linked to the political fate of the country and is at the confluence of a plot hatched by the conservatives to break up the eight-party coalition pact signed by the Move Forward Party, the Pheu Thai Party and six other smaller parties for a ‘Government of Hope’ on the 22nd May 2023, nine years to the day after the 2014 coup d’état. On Friday, the planned return of Mr Thaksin on August 10th to Thailand, announced by his daughter on July 26th, was thrown into doubt when Mr Chuwit Kamolvisit, the political activist who has a knack for detecting what is happening behind the scenes, revealed that Mr Thaksin has gotten cold feet fearing that he may be the victim of deception.

 

Up until Friday in Bangkok, it was accepted that former Premier Thaksin Shinawatra would be returning to Thailand on August 10th next. He was expected to land at Don Mueang Airport. 

 

On Friday afternoon, the Director General of the Department of Corrections, Ayuth Sintoppant, came forward to assure the public that the former premier would be safely incarcerated in prison after his arrest on August 10th by Immigration Bureau officers on arrival back in Thailand. 

 

Full story: https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/07/30/fate-of-thaksin-linked-to-political-moves-government-pheu-thai-conservative-progressive/

 

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How many times does it have to be said? The answer to PT's problems lies in opposition. Renounce their futile and treacherous attempts at forming a government with their sworn enemies. Sit down, calm down and just figure it out. It's a no brainer. Tony can wait.

Edited July 31, 2023 by bradiston

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, 2baht said:

How cowardly is it to run away in the first place?

We know the Thai culture, do the deed and flee...

[Pib]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

Fine but don't announce multiple times ( how many now? over 10 for sure) that you're coming home, and then you don't!

 

Around 18 and counting according to this news article.   Guess he keeps forgetting to catch the flight.

https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/politics/40027470