Welcome to Malaysia -- wear a Swatch watch go to jail

[Jingthing]

Malaysia going full on Putin with extremist anti LGBTQ laws.

 

I've enjoyed my previous trips to Malaysia but

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https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/malaysia-swatch-ban-rainbow-lgbt-watch-intl-hnk/index.html

 

Wearing a rainbow-themed Swatch watch in Malaysia could now land you three years in jail, after the government banned what it described as the brand’s “LGBTQ related” products — claiming they are “harmful to morality.”

Anybody who wears, sells, imports or distributes the Swiss watchmaker’s rainbow-themed products — including watches, accessories or related packaging — faces not only the possibility of a jail term, but also a fine of up to 20,000 ringgit ($4,375) if convicted, according to official gazetted documents seen by CNN.

Homosexuality is a crime punishable by fines and prison terms of up to 20 years in Malaysia, a Muslim majority country that has seen a rise in conservative attitudes in recent years.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

No. Not "a Swatch watch"

 

People can wear almost any Swatch watch.

It shouldn't be too difficult not to wear that stupid alphabet soup rainbow design. 

 

[CharlieKo]

  On 8/11/2023 at 4:21 AM, Jingthing said:

Malaysia going full on Putin with extremist anti LGBTQ laws.

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That's really pathetic. It's not about Putin! Malaysia is a Muslim country, have respect for others beliefs.  

[BE88]

Like all Muslim countries including Russia which has an important Muslim share of about 23%.

Your woke culture is numbing your brain.

[Stocky]

  On 8/11/2023 at 4:21 AM, Jingthing said:

Malaysia going full on Putin with extremist anti LGBTQ laws

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No they're not, the government treads a fine line between the more liberal sensibilities of the urban population, and the more conservative sensibilities of the rural population. The Islamic party PAS is also part of the coalition in government. The issues regarding homosexuality are difficult because there's no leeway in Islamic law, so these things are dealt with generally on a don't tell don't ask basis. Muppets like the moron Matty Healy who caused a chaos at a recent music festival, and stuff like Swatch cashing in on the alphabet soup are of no help. When brought front and center the Malaysian government can only be seen to act one way. This is the same for Indonesia.

[seajae]

well unfortunately its their country so they are allowed to make the rules, if you dont like them dont go there, you are aware of these regulations before you go so no sense whinging about them, is the same way alcohol is not allowed in certain countries, just accept it and avoid those countries.

[Jingthing]

 

  On 8/11/2023 at 5:08 AM, BE88 said:

Like all Muslim countries including Russia which has an important Muslim share of about 23%.

Your woke culture is numbing your brain.

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So being against persecution of gay people is woke?

So by that being anti woke is being a bigot.

[Jingthing]

  On 8/11/2023 at 5:42 AM, seajae said:

well unfortunately its their country so they are allowed to make the rules, if you dont like them dont go there, you are aware of these regulations before you go so no sense whinging about them, is the same way alcohol is not allowed in certain countries, just accept it and avoid those countries.

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Agree.

Avoid.

But I have no desire to travel to Russia but there is a lot to like about Malaysia and its so close.

[Jingthing]

  On 8/11/2023 at 5:42 AM, Bert got kinky said:

 

Do you actively hunt down any story that doesn't support LBGTQMNX, just so you can play the victim?

 

 

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Do you actively seek out topics to express your anti LGBTQ bigotry?

 

Malaysia is of interest to expats in Thailand as its so close.

[Jingthing]

  On 8/11/2023 at 5:27 AM, Stocky said:

No they're not, the government treads a fine line between the more liberal sensibilities of the urban population, and the more conservative sensibilities of the rural population. The Islamic party PAS is also part of the coalition in government. The issues regarding homosexuality are difficult because there's no leeway in Islamic law, so these things are dealt with generally on a don't tell don't ask basis. Muppets like the moron Matty Healy who caused a chaos at a recent music festival, and stuff like Swatch cashing in on the alphabet soup are of no help. When brought front and center the Malaysian government can only be seen to act one way. This is the same for Indonesia.

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I see similarities to Russia.

Jailing people for wearing a watch is insane.

[Jingthing]

  On 8/11/2023 at 5:08 AM, BE88 said:

Like all Muslim countries including Russia which has an important Muslim share of about 23%.

Your woke culture is numbing your brain.

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Russia is a predominantly Orthodox Christian country.

[Stocky]

  On 8/11/2023 at 7:18 AM, Jingthing said:

I see similarities to Russia.

Jailing people for wearing a watch is insane.

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Has anyone actually been jailed?
As I said, when the West rubs Malaysia's nose in it they have to be seen to act - so they make a law and a big bruhaha - but I doubt anyone is going to prison unless they do anything provocative. 

[Jingthing]

  On 8/11/2023 at 4:37 AM, CharlieKo said:

That's really pathetic. It's not about Putin! Malaysia is a Muslim country, have respect for others beliefs.  

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I have no respect for persecution of minorities regardless of any religious excuses. 

[Jingthing]

  On 8/11/2023 at 7:21 AM, Stocky said:

Has anyone actually been jailed?
As I said, when the West rubs Malaysia's nose in it they have to be seen to act - so they make a law and a big bruhaha - but I doubt anyone is going to prison unless they do anything provocative. 

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So you're making excuses for extremist laws. Charming.

[Jingthing]

  On 8/11/2023 at 4:34 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

No. Not "a Swatch watch"

 

People can wear almost any Swatch watch.

It shouldn't be too difficult not to wear that stupid alphabet soup rainbow design. 

 

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Stupid alphabet soup?

So you post on a gay forum to insult gay culture. 

Disgusting. 

[Stocky]

  On 8/11/2023 at 7:23 AM, Jingthing said:

So you're making excuses for extremist laws. Charming.

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No, you're just expecting other countries to bend to your will. 

[Lemsta69]

  On 8/11/2023 at 4:37 AM, CharlieKo said:

That's really pathetic. It's not about Putin! Malaysia is a Muslim country, have respect for others beliefs.  

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Can't respect beliefs that have no respect for non-believers. But I guess you're happy being a dhimmi and paying jizyah.

[Jingthing]

  On 8/11/2023 at 7:26 AM, Stocky said:

No, you're just expecting other countries to bend to your will. 

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Who said I'm expecting?

I know there are horribly homophobic countries in the world just as there are obviously horribly homophobic expats in Thailand.

The news here is that Malaysia is getting worse for LGBTQ people. Just as Russia and the USA have gotten worse.

[Lemsta69]

  On 8/11/2023 at 4:21 AM, Jingthing said:

I've enjoyed my previous trips to Malaysia but

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In my experience Malaysia only works if there are Chinese restaurants in the local area.

 

If there aren't any, expect a booze-free experience AND a lecture. "It says in the book blah blah blah".

 

If you find yourself in such a town, eg Marang twenty years ago then it's to bed at 9pm then bug out on the first bus the next morning.

[Callmeishmael]

  On 8/11/2023 at 4:37 AM, CharlieKo said:

That's really pathetic. It's not about Putin! Malaysia is a Muslim country, have respect for others beliefs.  

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I always try to respect other's beliefs, now matter how stupid they are.  But this is really pushing the limit.

[Stocky]

  On 8/11/2023 at 7:30 AM, Jingthing said:

Who said I'm expecting?

I know there are horribly homophobic countries in the world just as there are obviously horribly homophobic expats in Thailand.

The news here is that Malaysia is getting worse for LGBTQ people. Just as Russia and the USA have gotten worse.

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That is in part due to the agenda being pushed by the west, the recent Matty Healy incident wasn't helpful. The western bull in a china shop approach is inappropriate in other cultures.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jul/26/the-1975s-matty-healy-has-hurt-malaysias-queer-community-not-uplifted-it

[Bert got kinky]

  On 8/11/2023 at 7:32 AM, Jingthing said:

Being against persecution of minorities is radical?

Wow.

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Being against persecution of minorities is radical?

It is when you constantly force your beliefs down everyone's throats and even expect everyone to follow them.

It is when it consumes you so much that you actively hunt down stories to be 'hurt' about.

 

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[Jingthing]

Almost all the posts here have been homophobic.

On the gay forum here.

It seems this gay forum is not viable here.

Any topic here just attracts bigoted posts.

Thus, I am requesting this  topic be closed. 

 

[Bert got kinky]

  On 8/11/2023 at 7:47 AM, Jingthing said:

Almost all the posts here have been homophobic.

On the gay forum here.

It seems this gay forum is not viable here.

Any topic here just attracts bigoted posts.

Thus, I am requesting this  topic be closed. 

 

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Quick, close it before he has a hissy fit. ????

 

Starts a post, people don't agree with him, wants the thread closed in order to censor their views.

 

[Sigmund]

Anyhow who wants a Swatch ? They are starting the racket with their Moonwatch series, like Apple used to do with some previous releases. They show a product like the MOONWATCH - Neptune but to enhance speculation, it's totally unavailable since 1 year it has been released.

 

Plain marketing rubbish that speaks a lot. Customers are no longer geese that will line up for hours just to get the new phone or watch. If not available, fine...I'll give somebody else me money.

[Sigmund]

Are USA are better with their anti abortion laws and backward treatment of women in rural US ?

[Jingthing]

  On 8/11/2023 at 8:03 AM, Sigmund said:

Anyhow who wants a Swatch ? They are starting the racket with their Moonwatch series, like Apple used to do with some previous releases. They show a product like the MOONWATCH - Neptune but to enhance speculation, it's totally unavailable since 1 year it has been released.

 

Plain marketing rubbish that speaks a lot. Customers are no longer geese that will line up for hours just to get the new phone or watch. If not available, fine...I'll give somebody else me money.

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Read the article about all the anti gay laws there.

The Swatch thing is obviously especially ridiculous but it shows where they are coming from and yes it is similar to Russia.

Actually of course it's much worse than Russia as gay sex itself is criminalized in Malaysia. 

[Jingthing]

So those that think it's OK to post homophobic stuff on a gay forum.would you go on a black forum and post racist stuff?

[Jingthing]

  On 8/11/2023 at 8:07 AM, Sigmund said:

Are USA are better with their anti abortion laws and backward treatment of women in rural US ?

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The US is experiencing a wave of anti LGBT laws.

Better in that you can wear a Swatch of any color and gay sex itself is legal, etc.

[Jingthing]

I didn't feel this way before but now I think LGBTQ people should boycott Malaysia and sincere allies should as well.