Are you comfortable with being treated like a walking ATM?

[steven100]

3 minutes ago, marin said:

I dont believe a word he says, seems you do. Brothers in arms I guess you could say. Oh, how do you know about me? ???? 

well we don't really know .. but it makes for good reading ....  haha

[StayinThailand2much]

7 hours ago, bob smith said:

How does this make you feel at a deep level?

are you comfortable with it?

I don't care. I know that Thais only care about money. Many Thais cannot figure out whether I'm rich or poor. Even my ex-girlfriend never figured out how much money I had. People who treat me as an ATM won't enjoy my company for long.

[LaosLover]

Just now, Sticky Rice Balls said:

tell him to bring you a grilled cheese and call it even ????

I actually make him a grilled cheese sandwich when he comes over. He's an Edam-man.

 

Always a great, slightly lost afternoon -swapping between Mor Lam, Roots Reggae, and EDM on Youtube.

[OneMoreFarang]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh, tell us about your dealings wiv the hi-so's to back up your post, or did some bloke on a bar stool tell you...................????

I don't have any personal bad experience with HiSos, but I remember a friend who was manager of a company which was owned by a HiSo family.

Officially the HiSo son run the company, not that he cared much.

And because he was the son, and not the head of the family, he had lots of things and could ask his super rich HiSo father for lots of things, but not everything.

So one day the HiSo son ask my friend, who just got his salary, if he could borrow 500k THB over the weekend. Like: You know I am super rich, just cash flow, no problem, you will get your money back on Monday.

My friend gave him the money and he expected to get it back on Monday. And then? He didn't get it back on Monday or anytime soon. Because what could my friend do? Go to the police and complain about the HiSo? Or go to the HiSo father who was head of the family and complain about his son?

No good options.

With HiSos there are possible other problems compared to Somchai. The problem is that those are powerful people. 

 

 

[Middle Aged Grouch]

7 hours ago, bob smith said:

we all know that thais only give us the time of day if we are paying.

They couldnt care less about us if we arent.

No money, no honey i believe is the popular phrase.

 

How does this make you feel at a deep level?

are you comfortable with it?

 

Do thais also treat each other the same way?

do friendships here revolve solely on materialism? 

 

I know in the west friends are mostly made in our youth, when we all had nothing and came up together.

Here it seems it doesnt work that way.

You never see hi so mixing with lo so etc

seems everything is based on how much money you have in the bank.

Which is strange because there are way more poor people in Thailand than there are rich.

I guess maybe you gotta get out to the villages to meet the genuine Thais, right?

 

I stopped paying for thai people a long time ago.

Because whenever I did I never got any extra respect or whatever.

it was just like it was expected cos i was a foreigner.

 

Now I mostly get the Thais to foot the bill and use the old adage 'well im a guest here so...' 

and do you know what, it works surprisingly well! ???? 

I find it interesting that most criticize your post for nothing,  but are nevertheless eager to comment and thus make it amongst the current popular posts. ????

[ravip]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I don't have any personal bad experience with HiSos, but I remember a friend who was manager of a company which was owned by a HiSo family.

Officially the HiSo son run the company, not that he cared much.

And because he was the son, and not the head of the family, he had lots of things and could ask his super rich HiSo father for lots of things, but not everything.

So one day the HiSo son ask my friend, who just got his salary, if he could borrow 500k THB over the weekend. Like: You know I am super rich, just cash flow, no problem, you will get your money back on Monday.

My friend gave him the money and he expected to get it back on Monday. And then? He didn't get it back on Monday or anytime soon. Because what could my friend do? Go to the police and complain about the HiSo? Or go to the HiSo father who was head of the family and complain about his son?

No good options.

With HiSos there are possible other problems compared to Somchai. The problem is that those are powerful people. 

 

 

Nothing to talk about. 

A nice fairy tale. 

Duh

Edited August 23, 2023 by ravip

[transam]

1 minute ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

ever notice how most of the content here is made to keep you on the site hate posting?

 

reminds me when i use TF app and as soon as i close it a random "interest" suddenly appears

 

*this is how websites make profit--keep you on them*    food for thought gents..carry on

Sites do survive via "clicks", especially commercial ones....????

[Bangel72]

I often feel its the sense of right and wrong in some that is a problem. The feeling that its okay and expected rather than an act of kindness and support that will be removed if abused or gratitude is not shown.

 

They believe its all okay and wont listen to why or even attempt to understand why it bothers you, no matter how many times its explained.

 

The boy that cried wolf is also something that should be taught here, the lying to get money even if small lie some seem to think is perfectly okay and then the lies bother you more than the money and you stop, they get a real problem and then go mental that you did not help and that your a very bad person.

 

It is what it is though, I've come to realise its wasted effort to get some to understand and better to cut them out of your life.

 

Sad thing is I've also started seeing some of this attitude in my local away from center bar, what was a quiet family sports type bar, the hustle with drinks for new visitors, then they tell me they were good customers but wonder why they didn't come back, I try and explain and 5 mins later its a new customer getting the treatment for drinks.

 

The thinking and sense of right and wrong are so different. Now that's not representative of general thainess far from it but within some drinking and beer circles I see it a lot.  

[OneMoreFarang]

30 minutes ago, ravip said:

Nothing to talk about. 

A nice fairy tale. 

Duh

You don't have to believe it.

I know everybody involved. It happened, here in Thailand. 

[Felton Jarvis]

49 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh, tell us about your dealings wiv the hi-so's to back up your post, or did some bloke on a bar stool tell you...................????

Welcome to my “ignore list”.

[a3tsw]

6 hours ago, KannikaP said:

no, that's even worse.

Now what other famous Albert's can we think of?

Who or what is a Prince Albert? 555

Albert Square ????

[KannikaP]

2 minutes ago, a3tsw said:

Albert Square ????

We're so sorry, Uncle Albert.

[transam]

11 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

Welcome to my “ignore list”.

No answer then, no proof then.............????

[BritManToo]

52 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

So one day the HiSo son ask my friend, who just got his salary, if he could borrow 500k THB over the weekend. Like: You know I am super rich, just cash flow, no problem, you will get your money back on Monday.

Answer, "Sorry I'm broke, if I had it I'd lend it to you".

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Answer, "Sorry I'm broke, if I had it I'd lend it to you".

That's why I mentioned he just received his salary. I don't know exactly how much he made, but for sure several hundred thousand THB per month. 

He gave the money to the guy who just paid his salary, and he expected to get in back within a week.

In hindsight he should have done it.

This was just an example about what could (did) happen with a HiSo. My friend didn't expect something like that from a guy from a super-rich family. 

[richard_smith237]

5 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

The REAL Thailand is worse than the lowlifes in Thai society. HISO Thais are horrible people and would have you killed if they could.

Utterly ridiculous comment.

I suggest anyone of the above opinion to be of such poisonous character they invite nothing other than disregard from others. 

 

How interesting the differences, experiences and encounters we in this forum amass.

From the extremely poor to the extremely wealthy (Hi-So as you put it)...  the experiences and interactions I have had in Thailand, like most places, have nearly always been favourable. 

 

Of course, generalisations are always going to have exceptions, however, one generalisation that I can make is that for the vast majority of encounters throughout the whole spectrum of society, Thai's in general are extremely polite and welcoming.

 

 

 

 

[scottiejohn]

10 hours ago, marin said:

He seems to live and associate with the lowest form of Thai society. He has no idea of the real Thailand. 

Yes!  It seems from his posts that he only communicate with himself!

[JimTripper]

11 hours ago, bob smith said:

my sentiments exactly!

 

They should feel grateful that i am willing to spend my time here.

When I’m being served I don’t care much as long as I don’t hear any complaints ????????‍♂️.

Edited August 23, 2023 by JimTripper

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

5 hours ago, transam said:

Oh, tell us about your dealings wiv the hi-so's to back up your post, or did some bloke on a bar stool tell you...................????

Welcome to my “ignore list”.

Its quite amusing that you post an outreagouesly exaggerated and ridiculous comment... and then announce you've put someone on an 'ignore list' as if its some sort of win ??

 

All you've really announced is that you are unable to handle a perfectly understandable response and lack the emotional tools to simply ignore something... as in, ignore it without needing to have the last word about ignoring someone !!!.... 

 

Quality stuff !!... 

[GammaGlobulin]

12 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Perhaps change your attitude, rather than trying to justify your bizarre views by seeking out similarly depressing people.

Does he speak passa Thai, do you think? 

He seems to be suffering a devastating case of alienation. 

Maybe his topics are born out of culture shock and desperation. 

 

 

[BritManToo]

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

My friend didn't expect something like that from a guy from a super-rich family. 

Trust No-One!

[ravip]

18 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

The REAL Thailand is worse than the lowlifes in Thai society. HISO Thais are horrible people and would have you killed if they could.

It's just the society you mix with. Try  to change it,  if possible. 

 

The normal Thai people are extremely polite,  tolerant respectful and honest. 

 

Of course... there are the exceptions.

[Neeranam]

10 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Does he speak passa Thai, do you think? 

He seems to be suffering a devastating case of alienation. 

Maybe his topics are born out of culture shock and desperation. 

 

 

I doubt it but learning Thai is a great way to get out and practise with people, making you feel a part of the community, rather than apart from the community.

How many expat Thai language forums/groups are there? 

[Neeranam]

18 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

The REAL Thailand is worse than the lowlifes in Thai society. HISO Thais are horrible people and would have you killed if they could.

The term, 'Hiso' is commonly misused by farang. 

Most farang will never have any interaction with real Hisos, the ones that were educated abroad mostly. I often hear things like 'she is a Hiso and works....'. Hisos here don't have to work. Think of the British Aristocracy to get an understanding of Thai HiSo. 

What do you mean 'lowlifes'?

Many Thais feel proud to be Loso, like the working class in the UK. 

 

[ravip]

12 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The term, 'Hiso' is commonly misused by farang. 

Most farang will never have any interaction with real Hisos, the ones that were educated abroad mostly. I often hear things like 'she is a Hiso and works....'. Hisos here don't have to work. Think of the British Aristocracy to get an understanding of Thai HiSo. 

What do you mean 'lowlifes'?

Many Thais feel proud to be Loso, like the working class in the UK. 

 

Quite agree with you. Many mix-up hiso with rich people. 

 

The REAL hiso's are more than that, and would not be attracted like flies to foreigners. 

 

This holds true in any country. 

[bignok]

23 hours ago, flexomike said:

He has no circle of friends

Your friends sit in a circle?

[richard_smith237]

24 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The term, 'Hiso' is commonly misused by farang. 

Most farang will never have any interaction with real Hisos, the ones that were educated abroad mostly. I often hear things like 'she is a Hiso and works....'. Hisos here don't have to work. Think of the British Aristocracy to get an understanding of Thai HiSo. 

I kind of agree...   exposure to 'hi-so' obviously depends on your situation. i.e. kids go to top international schools (Patana / Harrow)... its likely your child will become friends with the child of a family considered 'hi-so'...   those who own major hospital chains, those who have streets named after them (their family name), those who own major shopping mall chains, huge well known family businesses etc.. 

 

 

24 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

What do you mean 'lowlifes'?

Many Thais feel proud to be Loso, like the working class in the UK. 

 

There is a degree of reverse snobbery amongst the hoi-palloi...   proud to be lo-so ? I'm not so sure, given an opportunity to be as wealthy as the 'wealthy' they'd chew off their own arm. 

That doesn't mean they forget their manners and 'salt of the earth' character, their pride comes from being able to deal with adversity with emotional strength, integrity and honesty. 

Edited August 24, 2023 by richard_smith237

[bignok]

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

I kind of agree...   exposure to 'hi-so' obviously depend on your situation. i.e. kids go to top international schools (Patana / Harrow)... its likely your child will become friends with the child of a family considered 'hi-so'...   those who own major hospital chains, those who have streets named after them (their family name), those who own major shopping mall chains etc... 

 

 

There is a degree of reverse snobbery amongst the hoi-palloi...   proud to be lo-so ? I'm not so sure, given an opportunity to be as wealthy as the 'wealthy' they'd chew off their own arm. 

That doesn't mean they forget their manners and 'salt of the earth' character, their pride comes from being able to deal with adversity with emotional strength, integrity and honesty. 

Only 2 types of people. People who are genuine and weasels. Weasels gossip about others behind their back.

 

I dont care if rich or poor. Just dont be a weasel

 

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, ravip said:

Quite agree with you. Many mix-up hiso with rich people. 

 

The REAL hiso's are more than that, and would not be attracted like flies to foreigners. 

 

This holds true in any country. 

Specifically attracted to foreigners, no, of course not...  but as welcoming to foreigners as anyone else when there is common ground, very much so. 

 

 

 

 

[HandsomeTallFarang]

On 8/23/2023 at 10:22 AM, bob smith said:

we all know that thais only give us the time of day if we are paying.

"We" and "us" who is this "us"? Is there a mouse in your pocket

 

 

I've had plenty of hookups and flings with attractive Thai girls, couple of Chinese too, who didn't want a penny or anything in return. They paid for their own travel costs as well.

 

 

Not everyone is an ugly old man, Bob. Some guys get attention from Thai women simply because Thai women are attracted to them. 

Edited August 24, 2023 by HandsomeTallFarang