Trump surrenders for historic fourth arrest

[Danderman123]

We're 21 pages into this topic, and no Trump supporter has yet to offer any proof that the Georgia election was stolen. They all believe it was stolen because their Dear Leader says it was stolen.

 

Meanwhile:

 

Trump lost court cases in Georgia.

 

The Republican governor says it wasn't stolen.

 

The Republican Lt Governor said it wasn't stolen.

 

The Republican Secretary of State says it wasn't stolen.

 

Two hand recounts show it wasn't stolen.

 

Rudy Guiliani claimed 2 election workers changed 1000s of votes, but then admitted he was lying.

 

But, for our Trump supporters, Trump's words are enough.  This topic is more about psychosis than politics.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Danderman123

[rudi49jr]

Here’s just another example of the stupendous hypocrisy of MAGA, and how these ‘brilliant minds’ work.

 

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/jeanine-pirro-in-2016-we-cannot-have-a-country-led-by-a-president-subject-to-ongoing-criminal-investigations

 

 

[ozimoron]

Who was he in a conspiracy with? I'm sure we'll find out soon. Who thinks Trump isn't looking at a longer sentence than this? I think it stretches incredulity that a Proud Boys leader says he's not a terrorist and doesn't have hate in his heart. The judge didn't buy it.

 

Proud Boys leader Joe Biggs sobs as he's sentenced to 17 years in prison

 

Biggs was convicted of seditious conspiracy

 

"I'm not a terrorist. I don't have hate in my heart," he swore.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/proud-boys-leader-17-years/

Edited August 31, 2023 by ozimoron

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Who was he in a conspiracy with? I'm sure we'll find out soon. Who thinks Trump isn't looking at a longer sentence than this?

 

Proud Boys leader Joe Biggs sobs as he's sentenced to 17 years in prison

 

Biggs was convicted of seditious conspiracy

 

https://www.rawstory.com/proud-boys-leader-17-years/

Mr Trump will likely pardon him, so he will only be in jail for a few months  

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Mr Trump will likely pardon him, so he will only be in jail for a few months  

I'd think that Trump should not be allocated a cell with this guy. They probably have a lot of fat to chew over.

[liddelljohn]

He should be locked up in the same Asylum  with Putin,Modi,Kim il Jung , Bolsanaro , The Mullahs , Orban, Assad and all the other psycho mad leaders and would be Hitlers

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, liddelljohn said:

He should be locked up in the same Asylum  with Putin,Modi,Kim il Jung , Bolsanaro , The Mullahs , Orban, Assad and all the other psycho mad leaders and would be Hitlers

And when he's released , he will be regarded as this generations Nelson Mandela, MLK or Ghandi 

[rudi49jr]

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

And when he's released , he will be regarded as this generations Nelson Mandela, MLK or Ghandi 

I think another poster already asked you this question, but I will repeat it: exactly what planet are you from?

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

I think another poster already asked you this question, but I will repeat it: exactly what planet are you from?

Planet Earth .

You ?

[rudi49jr]

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Planet Earth .

You ?

Same. I was just wondering how anyone in their right mind could equate Donald Trump, a man without any moral or ethical fibre in his body, the very antithesis of everything that is good and pure in this world, to great and courageous people like Mandela, MLK and Ghandi. 

[rudi49jr]

56 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Who was he in a conspiracy with? I'm sure we'll find out soon. Who thinks Trump isn't looking at a longer sentence than this? I think it stretches incredulity that a Proud Boys leader says he's not a terrorist and doesn't have hate in his heart. The judge didn't buy it.

 

Proud Boys leader Joe Biggs sobs as he's sentenced to 17 years in prison

 

Biggs was convicted of seditious conspiracy

 

"I'm not a terrorist. I don't have hate in my heart," he swore.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/proud-boys-leader-17-years/

I’m not a terrorist. I don’t have hate in my heart.

 

How quickly they forget:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/proud-boys-hate-group-dc-b2367886.html

[Bkk Brian]

Transparency matters

Trump trial in Fulton County will be televised and live streamed, Georgia judge says

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee said he will allow a YouTube stream of all related hearings and trials stemming from the investigation into an alleged scheme to overturn the state's 2020 presidential election results. The live stream will be operated by the court. There will also be pool coverage for television, radio and still photography allowed, he said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fulton-county-trial-live-stream/

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

And when he's released , he will be regarded as this generations Nelson Mandela, MLK or Ghandi 

Do you remember Trump University? Trump issued fake diplomas, and ended up paying $24 million to people he scammed.

 

Do you recall Gandhi or MLK ever scamming anyone?

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Planet Earth .

You ?

Are you a parody account?

[scottiejohn]

6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Mr Trump will likely pardon him, so he will only be in jail for a few months  

How can MR Trump pardon anyone?

[Slip]

6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

And when he's released , he will be regarded as this generations Nelson Mandela, MLK or Ghandi 

You're aiming too low.  By his flock, he will be regarded as nothing short of the new messiah!  Well, he's not, he's a very naughty boy.  However, who cares how he is regarded on release? Most just want to regard him in a flaming orange jumpsuit to match his skin tone.

[Tug]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Are you a parody account?

Now kids we all know mommy told us don’t feed the troll lol ( I know it’s tempting lol )

[nauseus]

10 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Here’s just another example of the stupendous hypocrisy of MAGA, and how these ‘brilliant minds’ work.

 

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/jeanine-pirro-in-2016-we-cannot-have-a-country-led-by-a-president-subject-to-ongoing-criminal-investigations

 

 

So now you care about what Fox employees have to say? Then claim hypocracy? 555

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

So now you care about what Fox employees have to say? Then claim hypocracy? 555

This is just another lame attempt of yours to try to make a public issue, personal.

Just because Fox news people's opinions don't have any traction with rudi49jr, doesn't mean that they aren't public figures and fair game.

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

So now you care about what Fox employees have to say? Then claim hypocrisy? 555

I often pointed out Tucker Carlson's hypocrisy, he's infamous for it.

[Danderman123]

12 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Mr Trump will likely pardon him, so he will only be in jail for a few months  

I have a question for you:

 

Do you believe Rudy Guiliani and Sidney Powell's claims that the 2020 election was stolen?

[TimeMachine]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I have a question for you:

 

Do you believe Rudy Guiliani and Sidney Powell's claims that the 2020 election was stolen?

Problem is nobody can be certain because of the way election authorities setup . Unless its a public registered and viewable system nobody can say.  Only give their opinion.  My opinion is that it was a close election with certain safety guards in place. I would not put money on it that foul play was not done by either side. Cheating is part of human nature. 

[johnnybangkok]

11 minutes ago, TimeMachine said:

Problem is nobody can be certain because of the way election authorities setup . Unless its a public registered and viewable system nobody can say.  Only give their opinion.  My opinion is that it was a close election with certain safety guards in place. I would not put money on it that foul play was not done by either side. Cheating is part of human nature. 

I think you might be overlooking the 60+ court cases that were brought with not ONE SINGLE piece of credible evidence that the election was stolen. If that's not 'certain' then I don't know what you people want.

[TimeMachine]

21 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

We're 21 pages into this topic, and no Trump supporter has yet to offer any proof that the Georgia election was stolen. They all believe it was stolen because their Dear Leader says it was stolen.

 

Meanwhile:

 

Trump lost court cases in Georgia.

 

The Republican governor says it wasn't stolen.

 

The Republican Lt Governor said it wasn't stolen.

 

The Republican Secretary of State says it wasn't stolen.

 

Two hand recounts show it wasn't stolen.

 

Rudy Guiliani claimed 2 election workers changed 1000s of votes, but then admitted he was lying.

 

But, for our Trump supporters, Trump's words are enough.  This topic is more about psychosis than politics.

I'm a Trump supporter (more he's a better option the biden) I dont have proof either way,  but there would be proof if a different voting method was used. It would be checkable. 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

This is just another lame attempt of yours to try to make a public issue, personal.

Just because Fox news people's opinions don't have any traction with rudi49jr, doesn't mean that they aren't public figures and fair game.

 

Of course, just like his comment is. 

[TimeMachine]

16 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

I think you might be overlooking the 60+ court cases that were brought with not ONE SINGLE piece of credible evidence that the election was stolen. If that's not 'certain' then I don't know what you people want.

Exactly,  you cant prove it when  there is no avenue to.  Make elections open to public discretion. Then you can prove both sides. 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

I often pointed out Tucker Carlson's hypocrisy, he's infamous for it.

There you go then.

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, TimeMachine said:

I'm a Trump supporter (more he's a better option the biden) I dont have proof either way,  but there would be proof if a different voting method was used. It would be checkable. 

I have the impression that you are not that familiar with election systems. Maybe you have never worked in an election precinct.

 

It's almost impossible to cheat in an election by altering or printing ballots. Election fraud is usually a case where someone votes twice, but not enough to impact an election.

 

The idea that someone could dump pre-printed ballots on Election Day (or before) is crazy, since anyone doing so would have no idea if any voter in their batch had voted on Election Day, and any duplicates would be flagged by election authorities. 

 

There were 4 cases in Georgia of someone voting twice.

 

Each precinct is monitored by workers from both political parties. If the final voting rolls don't conform to what they saw on Election Day (or during early voting), the poll workers will notify authorities.

 

In short, there are significant barriers to widespread election fraud, and Trump's people never demonstrated a single precinct where there were fraudulent votes.

 

Of course, Rudy Guiliani claimed that poll workers were dumping pre-printed ballots, but later he admitted he was lying.

 

Despite that, you still believe Rudy's claims.

 

Can you point to a precinct in Georgia that had significant voter fraud? If you can't, why do you still think that the election was stolen?

 

Does Trump have that big an influence on you?

[Danderman123]

9 minutes ago, TimeMachine said:

Exactly,  you cant prove it when  there is no avenue to.  Make elections open to public discretion. Then you can prove both sides. 

There is significant public insight into election data.

 

Perhaps you have never chosen to look into it.

[Danderman123]

43 minutes ago, TimeMachine said:

Problem is nobody can be certain because of the way election authorities setup . Unless its a public registered and viewable system nobody can say.  Only give their opinion.  My opinion is that it was a close election with certain safety guards in place. I would not put money on it that foul play was not done by either side. Cheating is part of human nature. 

Again, you don't seem familar with the election process.

 

Rather than believe Trump, you could volunteer to serve as a poll worker.