Trump only running ‘to stay out of prison’

[johnnybangkok]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

 

To the collective "you" - What I really don't get is this: why does this criminal have such a hold over your brain? Why can he tell you such blatant lies and you just suck them up and say "Yup, fearful leader tells us so it must be true." How is this mass unable to perform even the simplest of critical thinking?

 

 

If you have Netflix, watch Ordinary Men, a fascinating documentary on the atrocities ordinary people will commit on the instructions of the state. 
It’s a lesson in the dangers of the hold over people that extremism can do and how they will willingly commit heinous acts with ease and how they justify it to themselves. 

[CharlieKo]

What an idiot Rep Will Hurd is!

[Hanaguma]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Usually when it precedes a ‘..but…’.

 

 

.,..which is not the case here.

[Berkshire]

1 minute ago, CharlieKo said:

What an idiot Rep Will Hurd is!

Unfortunately for you, he's absolutely right.

[Rimmer]

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[billd766]

7 hours ago, candide said:

"A New York judge has found Donald Trump and his adult sons liable for fraud, saying the Trumps provided false financial statements for roughly a decade.

Judge Arthur Engoron’s ruling came days before the civil case involving the New York attorney general’s office and the former president was set to go to trial."

 

New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/26/politics/trump-organization-business-fraud/index.html

From the BBC News website this morning 27 September 2023.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66931855

 

 

[CharlieKo]

4 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Unfortunately for you, he's absolutely right.

I couldn't care less. I'm not American. But Americans are so intrenched in personality politics. The country is the laughing stock of the world. What a mess your politicians have made of the country. But it seems no one care about that. It's just about stopping Trump or Biden depending on which camp you are in. It's really sad.

[candide]

6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I am just going by what he actually said .

Are you hearing something different to what I am hearing ?

Did you hear him say that you can inject disinfectant ?

I heard him ask a question as to whether you can or not  , he was asking  question which he didn't know the answer to .

   Although as POTUS , he really should have done some more research before asking such a question 

He was asking dumb questions and was a total embarrassment.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, candide said:

He was asking dumb questions and was a total embarrassment.

Yes, but he didn't say that you can inject bleach/disinfectant , he asked whether it could be used to combat the virus 

[candide]

50 minutes ago, billd766 said:

From the BBC News website this morning 27 September 2023.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66931855

 

 

From the BBC article

 

"That is a fantasy world, not the real world."

The judge determined that Mr Trump:

Overvalued Mar-a-Lago by 2,300% in one financial statement

Overvalued his penthouse at Trump Tower in New York by claiming that it was three times its actual size

"Absurdly" argued that calculating the area of the penthouse was subjective, ruling "a discrepancy of this order of magnitude, by a real estate developer sizing up his own living space of decades, can only be considered fraud"

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, CharlieKo said:

I couldn't care less. I'm not American. But Americans are so intrenched in personality politics. The country is the laughing stock of the world. What a mess your politicians have made of the country. But it seems no one care about that. It's just about stopping Trump or Biden depending on which camp you are in. It's really sad.

To be fair it's only really been this pronounced because of Trump. Obama V MCain wasn't as bad (apart from the racists of course), Bush V Gore, Clinton V George W were much more about policy and GOP v Dem.

Identity politics have becaome the norm now in America, mostly because of Trump.

 

Edited September 27, 2023 by johnnybangkok

[CharlieKo]

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

To be fair it's only really been this pronounced because of Trump. Obama V MCain wasn't as bad (apart from the racists of course), Bush V Gore, Clinton V George W were much more about policy and GOP v Dem.

Identity politics have becaome the norm now in America, mostly because of Trump.

 

Is it really because of Trump? I mean Biden is just a puppet the strings being pulled by someone behind the scenes! It seems to me there is a vendetta emanating from  maybe the Clintons and Obama who it is suggested is really running the show. Clinton herself yet again pushing Russian interference. It seems like an easy excuse to make for a failed political system that has stopped working! It is an obsession to keep Trump out of office regardless of the damage to the country. All so Clinton can get some payback for losing to Trump!

[rudi49jr]

26 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Is it really because of Trump? I mean Biden is just a puppet the strings being pulled by someone behind the scenes! It seems to me there is a vendetta emanating from  maybe the Clintons and Obama who it is suggested is really running the show. Clinton herself yet again pushing Russian interference. It seems like an easy excuse to make for a failed political system that has stopped working! It is an obsession to keep Trump out of office regardless of the damage to the country. All so Clinton can get some payback for losing to Trump!

If you have proof that Biden is just a puppet whose strings are being pulled by someone behind the scenes then please provide it, otherwise I’m going to have to call BS.

And of course it’s all because of Trump, jeez! How on earth is it possible that dozens of millions of Americans have adopted a two-timing conman, cheat, liar, adulterer and above all grifter to be their lord and savior, and have pinned all their hopes on this narcissistic crybaby? All those people have gone down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theory thinking and they believe Trump is snow-white, despite the truckloads of evidence against him, and the 91 criminal indictments. All those people also believe that Biden is the anti-christ who has committed heinous crimes, even though not the tiniest shred of evidence has ever been produced.

[Mavideol]

37 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Is it really because of Trump? I mean Biden is just a puppet the strings being pulled by someone behind the scenes! It seems to me there is a vendetta emanating from  maybe the Clintons and Obama who it is suggested is really running the show. Clinton herself yet again pushing Russian interference. It seems like an easy excuse to make for a failed political system that has stopped working! It is an obsession to keep Trump out of office regardless of the damage to the country. All so Clinton can get some payback for losing to Trump!

just curious, do u care to elaborate on that comment, any supporting reliable source data would be welcomed

Edited September 27, 2023 by Mavideol

[CharlieKo]

5 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

just curious, do u care to elaborate on that comment, any supporting reliable source data would be welcomed

If you can't see that Biden is senile then you are blind!

[CharlieKo]

10 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

If you have proof that Biden is just a puppet whose strings are being pulled by someone behind the scenes then please provide it, otherwise I’m going to have to call BS.

And of course it’s all because of Trump, jeez! How on earth is it possible that dozens of millions of Americans have adopted a two-timing conman, cheat, liar, adulterer and above all grifter to be their lord and savior, and have pinned all their hopes on this narcissistic crybaby? All those people have gone down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theory thinking and they believe Trump is snow-white, despite the truckloads of evidence against him, and the 91 criminal indictments. All those people also believe that Biden is the anti-christ who has committed heinous crimes, even though not the tiniest shred of evidence has ever been produced.

Who are you talking about. Trump or Biden? 

[xylophone]

40 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Is it really because of Trump? I mean Biden is just a puppet the strings being pulled by someone behind the scenes! It seems to me there is a vendetta emanating from  maybe the Clintons and Obama who it is suggested is really running the show. Clinton herself yet again pushing Russian interference. It seems like an easy excuse to make for a failed political system that has stopped working! It is an obsession to keep Trump out of office regardless of the damage to the country. All so Clinton can get some payback for losing to Trump!

Now that's an interesting post, because an old Australian guy I spoke to just a couple of days ago was rattling on about how Clinton was corrupt, then how Obama was corrupt, and when I mentioned Trump, he said he wanted trump to be elected again because of all the good he did – – yeah right! He also just about mirrored what was in this post.

 

Then just yesterday a dumb English guy I know, uttered similar things, so they must have been getting this rubbish from some sort of right-wing media outlets. Quite amazing what these numb nuts will soak up and believe.

[Bkk Brian]

45 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Is it really because of Trump? I mean Biden is just a puppet the strings being pulled by someone behind the scenes! It seems to me there is a vendetta emanating from  maybe the Clintons and Obama who it is suggested is really running the show. Clinton herself yet again pushing Russian interference. It seems like an easy excuse to make for a failed political system that has stopped working! It is an obsession to keep Trump out of office regardless of the damage to the country. All so Clinton can get some payback for losing to Trump!

Well I've heard this line before that Biden "is just a puppet the strings being pulled by someone behind the scenes"

 

However its the first time I've seen who's supposedly doing it, Hilary and Obama.....lol

 

Feel free to provide a link to that conspiracy

Edited September 27, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

the love of hate and racism.....but i expect that response from an Ozi Moron.......crikey!

Why? I quoted Trump's own words!

[Mavideol]

Just now, CharlieKo said:

If you can't see that Biden is senile then you are blind!

... by your answer it appears you have no evidence whatsoever, you are just blowing up hot air without proof of anything, that's pity

[Mavideol]

6 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Who are you talking about. Trump or Biden? 

am detecting a troll is it what u preaching

[rudi49jr]

19 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Who are you talking about. Trump or Biden? 

If you don’t understand my post you really need to work on your reading comprehension. You claimed that Biden is a puppet. I asked you for proof of that claim, although I fully expect you to balk on that.

You asked if it is all because of Trump and I explained to you why it is all about Trump. It’s really quite simple, isn’t it?

Edited September 27, 2023 by rudi49jr

[Mavideol]

26 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Who are you talking about. Trump or Biden? 

Fraudster & Senile  definition .... as u can see when I make a comment I do provide backing data

AUDIO: New York judge finds Donald Trump guilty of fraud

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-27/new-york-judge-finds-donald-trump-guilty-of-fraud/102907340

Trump appears to confuse George W Bush with his brother Jeb in rambling speech

https://au.yahoo.com/news/trump-appears-confuse-george-w-171248082.html

Trump Committed Fraud By Inflating His Assets, Judge Rules

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/09/26/trump-committed-fraud-by-inflating-his-assets-judge-rules/?sh=4ad72c894565

Trump and his campaign seem confused over whether he illegally bought a gun

https://au.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-seem-confused-over-213008560.html

[ChaiyaTH]

On 9/26/2023 at 9:34 AM, bendejo said:

I sincerely doubt the Secret Service is going to let him carry a gun (with real bullets in it). 

I sincerely doubt they would refuse it, more likely they even taught him how to shoot better.

[Nick Carter icp]

28 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

Fraudster & Senile  definition .... as u can see when I make a comment I do provide backing data

AUDIO: New York judge finds Donald Trump guilty of fraud

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-27/new-york-judge-finds-donald-trump-guilty-of-fraud/102907340

 

That's like the ex-pats who used to lie about having 800 000 Baht in their bank accounts to get a retirement visa 

[CharlieKo]

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

... by your answer it appears you have no evidence whatsoever, you are just blowing up hot air without proof of anything, that's pity

the only evidence needed is Biden is senile. No way is he making policy decisions. He can't even string a sentence together.  

[CharlieKo]

2 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

If you don’t understand my post you really need to work on your reading comprehension. You claimed that Biden is a puppet. I asked you for proof of that claim, although I fully expect you to balk on that.

You asked if it is all because of Trump and I explained to you why it is all about Trump. It’s really quite simple, isn’t it?

I understood your post. It's just that Biden is being accused of similar things, and there seems to be proof. So forgive me if I got confused. I know Trump is a target. But everyone has him guilt before it has been proven in a court of Law. But that is just a minor detail for Trump haters! As I am sure Biden's Grifting is a minor detail for Biden supporters.  

[Danderman123]

46 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

I understood your post. It's just that Biden is being accused of similar things, and there seems to be proof. So forgive me if I got confused. I know Trump is a target. But everyone has him guilt before it has been proven in a court of Law. But that is just a minor detail for Trump haters! As I am sure Biden's Grifting is a minor detail for Biden supporters.  

"there seems to be proof".

 

Okay, post it.

[Danderman123]

8 hours ago, CharlieKo said:

I couldn't care less. I'm not American. But Americans are so intrenched in personality politics. The country is the laughing stock of the world. What a mess your politicians have made of the country. But it seems no one care about that. It's just about stopping Trump or Biden depending on which camp you are in. It's really sad.

my position is that taxes of the wealthy should be raised, and health coverage for everyone should be available.

 

i support candidates who support my position.

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, CharlieKo said:

I understood your post. It's just that Biden is being accused of similar things, and there seems to be proof. So forgive me if I got confused. I know Trump is a target. But everyone has him guilt before it has been proven in a court of Law. But that is just a minor detail for Trump haters! As I am sure Biden's Grifting is a minor detail for Biden supporters.  

What Biden’s grifting? If you’re going to come with claims and accusations, let’s see some proof at least. Oh right, you don’t have any, except all the innuendo and hearsay and the whistleblowers that turned out not to exist, or were convicted felons, or just made stuff up.

 

If there is any evidence of wrongdoing by Biden, I’ll be the first to admit that he needs to answer for that and if found guilty, he needs to go to jail. No one is above the law, not Biden, not Trump, no one.
But so far, there is no evidence of any wrongdoing by Biden, and I very much doubt if there ever will be. On the other hand, there are truckloads of evidence of wrongdoing by Trump, hard and solid evidence. He’s even been found guilty of fraud by a judge in NY.

By the way, you can scream ‘Biden is senile’ until you are blue in the face, but that doesn’t make it true.