Ramaswamy calls transgenderism 'a mental health disorder'

 

 Vivek Ramaswamy says that transgenderism "a mental health disorder" and said it was cruel to "affirm a kid's confusion" about their gender -- in response to a question about parents' rights in schools.

"Transgenderism, especially in kids, is a mental health disorder. We have to acknowledge the truth of that for what it is," the entrepreneur said.

"Parents have the right to know," he went on to say when pushed about parental rights.

"The very people who say that this increases the risk of suicide are also the ones saying that parents don't have the right to know about that increased risk of suicide," he said. "And sorry, it is not compassionate to affirm a kid's confusion, that is not compassion, that is cruelty.

I met two young women, Chloe and Katie, early in this campaign who are in their twenties now regret getting double mastectomies and a hysterectomy. One of them will never have children and the fact that we allowed that to happen in this country is barbaric. So I will ban genital mutilation or chemical castration under the age of 18." 

 

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He's right you know. Viva Vivek

The alt-right candidates all fighting over the same rot.

 

People who are not Vivek (pump

and dump) Ramaswamy’s mum might consider his believing he is a viable candidate is a mental health disorder.

 

https://fortune.com/2023/08/31/smoke-mirrors-debate-vivek-ramaswamy-2-year-diversionary-tactics-business-commentary-sonnenfeld/amp/

 

 

 

They seem to be doing well in womens weight lifting competitions. 

It doesent matter it’s not their fault it’s not something one would seek to be .they are wired differently nothing is going to change them .we must learn to accept it .they are a tiny minority of people who are deserving of rights love compassion and acceptance just like everyone else.

24 minutes ago, Tug said:

It doesent matter it’s not their fault it’s not something one would seek to be .they are wired differently nothing is going to change them .we must learn to accept it .they are a tiny minority of people who are deserving of rights love compassion and acceptance just like everyone else.

Its the encroachment into female sports/ jails...bathrooms etc that biological women have THE RIGHT to get upset about as well. Do they not? If not, why not? 

Not sure about mental health disorder, unless you let it affect your mental health.

 

More a confusion, want to be, disorder.  Just make up your mind, and admit to yourself, you're either gay or bisexual.   It would save a lot of alphabet use.

 

A male is never going to be a female, biologically.

 

A female is never going to be a male, biologically.

 

Cosmetically, and drug therapy, you may look like one, after spending too much money, but it's your body & money.

 

Here's a thought, and maybe a chuckle:

me at bar, trans woman makes a pass at me:

.... me ... 'I'm gay, not interested in women'

... him/her ... 'one night with me, and you'll never go back to men'????

 

Let that sink in, take as long as you need.

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1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Not sure about mental health disorder, unless you let it affect your mental health.

 

More a confusion, want to be, disorder.  Just make up your mind, and admit to yourself, you're either gay or bisexual.   It would save a lot of alphabet use.

 

A male is never going to be a female, biologically.

 

A female is never going to be a male, biologically.

 

Cosmetically, and drug therapy, you may look like one, after spending too much money, but it's your body & money.

 

Here's a thought, and maybe a chuckle:

me at bar, trans woman makes a pass at me:

.... me ... 'I'm gay, not interested in women'

... him/her ... 'one night with me, and you'll never go back to men'????

 

Let that sink in, take as long as you need.

You are forgetting the fun bags.

Which your standard male's lack.

2 hours ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

Its the encroachment into female sports/ jails...bathrooms etc that biological women have THE RIGHT to get upset about as well. Do they not? If not, why not? 

Vivek isn’t going to be encroaching on the White House any time soon, his dog whistle to the homophobes isn’t going to get him anywhere nearer either.

 

He should stick ‘pump and dump’.

4 hours ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

They seem to be doing well in womens weight lifting competitions. 

Men/Males usually do?????

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4 hours ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

They seem to be doing well in womens weight lifting competitions. 

as well as in the mens by women who had sex changes hmm

Nah.

It's just a fad that will end with (not in) World War 3.

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Un-necessary from Vivek (but quite possibly true). I mean if a black guy came to me and swore blind he was ethnic Chinese, I would probably think he wasn't quite right in the head. Or a 50 year old bloke who said he is actually a cat or a 10 year old girl or whatever, it seems perfectly logical to presume they have some kind of mental health issue.

 

That's not to say I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who think they are the opposite sex and I would never criticize them for it, any more than I would criticize someone with bi-polar or autism. It must be a nightmare for them. I just happen to believe it is rooted in mental health. In fact, I genuinely cannot think of another explanation other than some kind of re-incarnation gone wrong, but I'm not 100% convinced of re-incarnation either.

 

The fact that sometimes they transition and then later decide they were wrong to transition and they are actually their biological sex leads me further to believe it's a mental health issue. If it wasn't how could they ever regret the transition?

He should be pres. Stuff the 82yos.

4 hours ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

They seem to be doing well in womens weight lifting competitions. 

Brilliant...!

4 hours ago, Tug said:

.we must learn to accept it .they are a tiny minority of people who are deserving of rights love compassion and acceptance just like everyone else.

Yes and that TINY minority should not have the right to destroy or push an agenda on the rest of society !!

4 hours ago, Tug said:

It doesent matter it’s not their fault it’s not something one would seek to be .they are wired differently nothing is going to change them .we must learn to accept it .they are a tiny minority of people who are deserving of rights love compassion and acceptance just like everyone else.

And mental health care

Just now, RichardColeman said:

Yes and that TINY minority should not have the right to destroy or push an agenda on the rest of society !!

I agree, failing rightwing politicians desperately seeking relevance by trying to out do each other in the homophobia stakes isn’t an acceptable compass for broader society to follow.

Personally I haver zero interest in defining, or imposing what I think a person can, should, or must be.

 

If a person wishes to be whatever they are then that is their choice.

 

If a child identifies as a sex other than their physical being shows then a loving and accepting attitude is preferred to one of seeing the child as disordered.

The psychiatric DSM manual has historically been suspect and controversial regarding many so-called disorders defined and listed.

The matter of hormonal and gender reassignment/affirmation surgery for children is a contentious and prickly issue, and an issue on which I once again defer to the individual family to ponder. 

 

The noted and quoted character in the article is just one of the newest iterations of a GOP creep who is seeking his own power not the care of others.

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Vivek is such a total sleazeball. But he has no chance to be nominated.

He's just trying to out woke desantis

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Or a 50 year old bloke who said he is actually a cat or a 10 year old girl or whatever, it seems perfectly logical to presume they have some kind of mental health issue.

 

The fact that sometimes they transition and then later decide they were wrong to transition and they are actually their biological sex leads me further to believe it's a mental health issue. If it wasn't how could they ever regret the transition?

It's a mental disorder in KIDS. 

 

If a 10 year old girl said she was a 50 year old man....Something is wrong with the kid.

Guess all people in the world have mental health issues.

What is common for one person, is weird for another.

Depending in which country and/or system you were indoctrinated.

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Yes and that TINY minority should not have the right to destroy or push an agenda on the rest of society !!

Remind me again how trans people are destroying society? 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

The fact that sometimes they transition and then later decide they were wrong to transition and they are actually their biological sex leads me further to believe it's a mental health issue. If it wasn't how could they ever regret the transition?

So the ones that de-transition are suddenly miraculously cured of their mental health issues? Well, hallelujah. 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I agree, failing rightwing politicians desperately seeking relevance by trying to out do each other in the homophobia stakes isn’t an acceptable compass for broader society to follow.

How is it homophobia? Gay and trans are very different things. 

 

From what I have read, there is definitely a mental health component to being trans. Gender dysphoria, auto gynephelia, certainly depression and anxiety disorders... I guess the takeaway is that care that "affirms" the person claiming to be trans is not necessarily the best option.  I can't think of too many other mental health conditions where the accepted treatment is to accept the delusion of the patient as being real. 

13 minutes ago, jaywalker said:

It's a mental disorder in KIDS. 

 

Not so long ago they were saying that about gay people. I think it's dreadful to push the accusation of mental disorders on children.

36 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

How is it homophobia? Gay and trans are very different things. 

 

From what I have read, there is definitely a mental health component to being trans. Gender dysphoria, auto gynephelia, certainly depression and anxiety disorders... I guess the takeaway is that care that "affirms" the person claiming to be trans is not necessarily the best option.  I can't think of too many other mental health conditions where the accepted treatment is to accept the delusion of the patient as being real. 

You are confusing psychological with mental health.

 

Heaping hatred on people almost certainly will give rise to a deterioration in the latter.

35 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You are confusing psychological with mental health.

 

Heaping hatred on people almost certainly will give rise to a deterioration in the latter.

You're confusing hatred with tough love.  There's a reason we don't allow kids to smoke or drink, to get tattoos, drive cars, have sex with adults, or sign legally enforceable contracts.

 

And it's not because we hate them.  We do it to keep adults from taking advantage of their forming minds.

 

1 minute ago, impulse said:

You're confusing hatred with tough love.  There's a reason we don't allow kids to smoke or drink, to get tattoos, drive cars, have sex with adults, or sign legally enforceable contracts.

 

And it's not because we hate them.  We do it to keep adults from taking advantage of their forming minds.

 

And then they switch on the TV/Internet and see the hatred.

 

Vivek (pump and dump) Ramaswamy is baiting hatred of transgender people for his own political objectives.

 

He’s got a problem, all the other Alt-Right hate mongers are doing likewise.

 

It’s a race to the bottom, who amongst them dare be the most rabid?!

It’s a dog whistle that has an audience, but you knew that.