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33 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Tablet only reported what was seen in photos. Obviously photos are sometimes faked.

Considering some of the graphic verified images and vids online it would also obviously be unwise to dismiss them

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42 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

There have been videos posted online showing as such , blood stains around the genital area , festival attendees  held hostage by Palestinians 

I am sure there are some real photos around, but 'gushing' and 'stain' is very different, which is what I was alluding too.

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3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Of course it has. Elements of the left have long supported the Palestinians, Hamas and been anti-semitic. As you well know.

 

I disagree. There have been a lot of posts giving off the "Israel had it coming" and "what did they expect" vibe. Most have been removed thankfully.

Can you tell us which ‘elements of the left’ invade Israel this week?

 

And can you please provide examples of anyone at all in this thread supporting the atrocities you referred to:

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Not to mention that poor girl whose dead body was paraded naked through the streets after being gang raped.

 

How anybody can try to justify this is beyond me. 

Who in this thread has justified that Jonny?

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7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Except, of course, for the 20th century. Most muslim countries in the region forced out their Jewish citizens, who as you say had been there for centuries. Nearly one million Jews were expelled from countries from Morocco to Iran.  North Africa used to be home to half a million Jews. Today, less than 3,000. There used to be 75,000 Jews in Egypt. Today? Perhaps a hundred. 

There is a recording of an Israeli envoy to the United Nations General Assembly (perhaps ten years ago)  addressing in turn various envoys from North African litoral countries, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt; asking each in turn,"so, what happened to all your Jews?"

 

The speech was in response to one of the regular UN General Assembly motions to censure Israel.

 

Quite a powerful speech, very simple. None of them answered, a lot of squirming

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7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

But the person I was replying to made it a theological issue about the very nature of Islam.

The very nature of Islam can be seen in it's history, expansion by violent conquest, supremacist and intolerant. It was not the Nazis who started Jews wearing yellow markings so they could be publicly discriminated against, that was Muslim rulers after the time of the prophet. Hatred of Jews is embedded in Islam as it is believed a Jewish women poisoned the prophet, after he had killed her entire family.

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23 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You need to look up what the word racism means :

Here : Racism 

 

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

Jews are not a racial or ethnic group.

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And to think, it was only last Wednesday that Israeli settlers stormed and desecrated the Al Aqsa mosque, also spitting on Christian pilgrims along the way. 

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14 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Jews are not a racial or ethnic group.

You need to look up the word "Ethnic"

Here :

Ethnic 

of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background.

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24 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

There is a recording of an Israeli envoy to the United Nations General Assembly (perhaps ten years ago)  addressing in turn various envoys from North African litoral countries, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt; asking each in turn,"so, what happened to all your Jews?"

 

The speech was in response to one of the regular UN General Assembly motions to censure Israel.

 

Quite a powerful speech, very simple. None of them answered, a lot of squirming

Here :

Israels ethnic cleansing and apartheid 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

“We thank the Islamic Republic of Iran who provided us with weapons, money and other equipment! He gave us missiles to destroy Zionist fortresses, and helped us with standard anti-tank missiles!”

 

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https://twitter.com/MeghUpdates/status/1711217525533659285

 

I expect Iran has designs to incite an escalation via further proxy to draw Israel in Iran considering their recent rhetoric 

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56 minutes ago, couchpotato said:

I am sure there are some real photos around, but 'gushing' and 'stain' is very different, which is what I was alluding too.

The frequently shown footage of the female hostage her hands covered in blood and zip tied behind her back being dragged from the rear of the black SUV by the gallant Hamas fighter, literally shows that she had had the <deleted> kicked out of her - God help her.

 

I have little doubt that these poor hostages will be murdered, possibly to be shown on video accompanied by manly islamic chanting. However in many cases their captors faces are shown. Israel will identify them. They are "dead men walking"!

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49 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

And to think, it was only last Wednesday that Israeli settlers stormed and desecrated the Al Aqsa mosque, also spitting on Christian pilgrims along the way. 

Religious Jews went to the Al Aqsa Mosque to pray during the Sukkot religious festival to perform Talmudic rituals is a site significant to them .

   Those who were "spitting" got arrested .

Rather different to your portrayal events 

 

 

Jewish worshippers pray during the weeklong Jewish holiday of Sukkot, next to one of the gates to the Temple Mount, known to Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary, or the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, in the Old City of Jerusalem, Wednesday, Oct. 4, 2023. (AP Photo/Ohad Zwigenberg)

 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/4/israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque-complex-on-fifth-day-of-sukkot

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54 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You need to look up the word "Ethnic"

Here :

Ethnic 

of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background.

So, if anti-semitism is racism what is anti-islamism?

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21 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

The frequently shown footage of the female hostage her hands covered in blood and zip tied behind her back being dragged from the rear of the black SUV by the gallant Hamas fighter, literally shows that she had had the <deleted> kicked out of her - God help her.

 

I have little doubt that these poor hostages will be murdered, possibly to be shown on video accompanied by manly islamic chanting. However in many cases their captors faces are shown. Israel will identify them. They are "dead men walking"!

There are also photos of dead female victims from the music festival who somehow lost all their clothing before they died....

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22 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Religious Jews went to the Al Aqsa Mosque to pray during the Sukkot religious festival to perform Talmudic rituals is a site significant to them .

   Those who were "spitting" got arrested .

Rather different to your portrayal events 

 

 

Jewish worshippers pray during the weeklong Jewish holiday of Sukkot, next to one of the gates to the Temple Mount, known to Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary, or the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, in the Old City of Jerusalem, Wednesday, Oct. 4, 2023. (AP Photo/Ohad Zwigenberg)

 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/4/israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque-complex-on-fifth-day-of-sukkot

From your link:

 

The Israeli army forced Palestinians to shut down their stores in the Old City to allow Jewish prayers to take place. The Palestinian Wafa news agency reported that Israeli forces prevented a number of Waqf employees from entering the holy Islamic site in the morning.

 

How is this acceptable?

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3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

There are also photos of dead female victims from the music festival who somehow lost all their clothing before they died....

Guess what these 17 Palestinian kids all have in common

 

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Yep, all killed by Israel.

Both sides are guilty of crimes against humanity.

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6 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

From your link:

 

The Israeli army forced Palestinians to shut down their stores in the Old City to allow Jewish prayers to take place. The Palestinian Wafa news agency reported that Israeli forces prevented a number of Waqf employees from entering the holy Islamic site in the morning.

 

How is this acceptable?

A security issue .

There would have been a high possibility that the Jews would have been attacked , so they took measures to lessen the risk of attack 

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1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Jews are not a race!

Agreed.

They are an ETHNORELIGIOUS people.

Like the Yazidis.

A secular Jew is still a Jew regardless.

An apostate Muslim is no longer a Muslim.

Got it now?

 

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6 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Guess what these 17 Palestinian kids all have in common

 

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Yep, all killed by Israel.

Both sides are guilty of crimes against humanity.

The big difference is that the Israeli kids were deliberately killed , murdered by Palestinians .

   Palestinian kids were accidently killed in cross fire 

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3 minutes ago, proton said:

All victims of shroud waving on a public forum? The first bits of propaganda Hamas will put out in response to Israels retaliation will be kiddies, they are experts at playing the victim by using kids.

They are experts at fortifying military sites aka schools with children 

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1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The big difference is that the Israeli kids were deliberately killed , murdered by Palestinians .

   Palestinian kids were accidently killed in cross fire 

Dead kids on both sides.

 

Give the Palestinians state of the art weaponry and they can then kill Israeli kids in the same fashion that Israeli's kill Palestinian kids.

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5 minutes ago, novacova said:

Just curious, where were they when they were killed? In an ordnance compound labeled as a school?

Do you think there are acceptable locations to kill kids?

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8 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

I never said they are a race. They are a people and the vast majority can be identified as members of the major Jewish ethnicities (Sephardic, Ashkenazic, Mizrahi and Ethiopian). The Jewish people also follow rather tribal conventions. A Jewish mother means a person is a Jew. A Jewish father not. Obviously there are people that worship or convert to Judaism without technically being in the tribe.

 

Antisemitism views Jews as a race though where a tiny percentage of Jewish blood makes a person a Jew. Nazism a prime example. 

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Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

Do you think there are acceptable locations to kill kids?

Ask hamas, or any other radical islamic organization, they kill kids quite often. Death to the infidels doesn't discriminate by age.

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