ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Morch]

4 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Not interested about 9/11 only in butchers killing innocents at a concert over the weekend in Israel don't deflect.

Not a deflection. It's a comparison of impact.

Relative to population size, the Hamas attack was far more devastating as far as death toll goes.

Serves to understand the level and intensity of the retaliation, and comments made.

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Not interested about 9/11 only in butchers killing innocents at a concert over the weekend in Israel don't deflect.

You might not be but I think the comparison has resonance.

I reckon most every Jew in the world has at least some kind of personal connection to recent victims of the Hamas terrorist scum.

My sister informed me of one today. Not anyone close but it still makes what's going on more real. 

The point of those numbers is personal impact to masses of people.

Most Americans did not have a personal connection to the victims of 9-11. 

Edited October 12, 2023 by Jingthing

[Adumbration]

The US will do everthing in its power to see this conflict escalate.  They need another offshore war, in addition to the Ukraine, to bolster inflation.

 

There is no other feasible strategy to reign in the obscene amount US debt other than try to inflate it away.

[BarraMarra]

A simple question to ask " What would you do if your loved one was shot at a festival or in a retirement home "

[rabas]

24 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

The white house itself has just backtracked and said that Biden actually never saw such pictures himself. No 40 babies were beheaded. It's another Israeli lie to justify their cruel savage bombings of innocent civilians in Gaza. If this story was true, the right-wing extremist Israeli government would not have hesitated to show or leak such pictures to the media. Did you ever see such pictures? OfCourse not because they do not exist, but I am sure you as the rest of the world have seen hundreds of actual Palestinian babies mutilated by Israel's criminal intentional bombardment of civilians.

More purposeful misinformation. No links. The White House clarified the comments.

 

Biden said:
"I never really thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children"

 

Clarification: link

IDF Spokesperson Maj. Doron Spielman told NBC News: "That specific report and that number I can’t confirm." He added: "What I can confirm is there were enormous witness testimonies along with evidence found in the field that there were children that were grotesquely murdered and their body parts were removed."

 

I await the disingenuous asking "Which parts?"

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Adumbration said:

The US will do everthing in its power to see this conflict escalate.  They need another offshore war, in addition to the Ukraine, to bolster inflation.

 

There is no other feasible strategy to reign in the obscene amount US debt other than try to inflate it away.

That is totally ridiculous. The US needs another war like a hole in the head. 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

A simple question to ask " What would you do if your loved one was shot at a festival or in a retirement home "

Seek justice.

[MrMojoRisin]

10 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

The white house itself has just backtracked and said that Biden actually never saw such pictures himself. No 40 babies were beheaded. It's another Israeli lie to justify their cruel savage bombings of innocent civilians in Gaza. If this story was true, the right-wing extremist Israeli government would not have hesitated to show or leak such pictures to the media. Did you ever see such pictures? OfCourse not because they do not exist, but I am sure you as the rest of the world have seen hundreds of actual Palestinian babies mutilated by Israel's criminal intentional bombardment of civilians.

I disagree with you here.

The known atrocities that Hamas have unequivocally committed are reason enough for Israel to retaliate.

So why the need for the apparently false beheading of 40 babies story?

Israel has been on a multi decade campaign to dehumanise the Palestinians.

Israel constantly constantly refer to themselves as "civilised" and Palestinians as "savages"

They want the world to see Palestinians as nothing more than barbaric animals.

Why?

Makes it all the easier to carry on with their aparthied whilst progressing their slow motion genocide.

 

Given what the Jews went through, all of the awfulness inflicted upon them throughout history, most of which was preceded by the perpetrators dehumanising the Jews first, it is unimaginable that such horrors are being repeated by the very ones who should know better than everyone else how utterly inhumane such actions are.

[Morch]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You might not be but I think the comparison has resonance.

I reckon most every Jew in the world has at least some kind of personal connection to recent victims of the Hamas terrorist scum.

My sister informed me of one today. Not anyone close but it still makes what's going on more real. 

The point of those numbers is personal impact to masses of people.

Most Americans did not have a personal connection to the victims of 9-11. 

Thanks, you put it better than I did. That's what I meant.

[BarraMarra]

Give up the baby's stuff you're getting repetitive using that one MoJo. 

[MrMojoRisin]

3 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

A simple question to ask " What would you do if your loved one was shot at a festival or in a retirement home "

I'd be upset and want justice.

I would not support mass indiscriminate slaughter or genocide.

 

What would you do if your loved one was shot dead at a checkpoint imposed in your homeland by an occupying foreign power?

[MrMojoRisin]

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Give up the baby's stuff you're getting repetitive using that one MoJo. 

Wow, up until now, you guys could hardly string a couple of words together without mentioning the 40 babies beheaded by the Palestinian savages.

 

It pays to be circumspect of claims made between antogonists, particularly in a situation as grave as this one.

 

You guys wanted so desperately to dehumanise the Palestinians that you ignored basic common sense.

 

You stuffed up, admit it, apologise and move on.

[Morch]

8 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Give up the baby's stuff you're getting repetitive using that one MoJo. 

I think throwing the toys out of the pram comes a bit later. Wait for it.

[Hanaguma]

7 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

I'd be upset and want justice.

I would not support mass indiscriminate slaughter or genocide.

 

What would you do if your loved one was shot dead at a checkpoint imposed in your homeland by an occupying foreign power?

Israel is occupying Gaza?  News to me. I thought they left something like 15 years ago. After which the businesses and farms they left behind were quickly looted and destroyed by Gazans.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9331863

[Nick Carter icp]

18 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

I disagree with you here.

The known atrocities that Hamas have unequivocally committed are reason enough for Israel to retaliate.

So why the need for the apparently false beheading of 40 babies story?

 

Israel didn't make the claim of the 40 dead babies though , that claim was made by a French journalist , actually the French Journalist didn't even make that claim , she claimed that there were 40 dead babies and SOME of them had been decapitated and Israel actually stated that in cannot either confirm or deny the story 

 

 https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-army-says-it-does-not-have-confirmation-about-allegations-that-hamas-beheaded-babies-/3014787

 

   You are making a false claim about Israel and then accusing Israel of lying , based on your false claim 

 

   French journalist : there were 40 dead babies and some of them have been decapacitated 

   Israel : We can neither conform or deny the story 

You : Israel are lying about there being 40 beheaded babies 

 

   The false claims are coming from you 

[MrMojoRisin]

16 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Israel is occupying Gaza?  News to me. I thought they left something like 15 years ago. After which the businesses and farms they left behind were quickly looted and destroyed by Gazans.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9331863

Do prison guards occupy the cell?

[Nick Carter icp]

18 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Wow, up until now, you guys could hardly string a couple of words together without mentioning the 40 babies beheaded by the Palestinian savages.

 

It pays to be circumspect of claims made between antogonists, particularly in a situation as grave as this one.

 

You guys wanted so desperately to dehumanise the Palestinians that you ignored basic common sense.

 

You stuffed up, admit it, apologise and move on.

Can I play that game ? right here we go, 

*Hamas claimed that Israel dropped a Nuclear bomb on Gaza yesterday , its has proven that no Nuclear Bomb was dropped on Gaza yesterday , that means everything Hamas said is untrue and Israel isn't bombing Gaza at all and its all nice and peaceful in Gaza and you cannot believe anything Hamas are saying* 

 

 ( N.B , the above is making a point and isn't based on anything literally factual and I am not actually claiming that Hamas made that claim)

[MrMojoRisin]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Can I play that game ? right here we go, 

*Hamas claimed that Israel dropped a Nuclear bomb on Gaza yesterday , its has proven that no Nuclear Bomb was dropped on Gaza yesterday , that means everything Hamas said is untrue and Israel isn't bombing Gaza at all and its all nice and peaceful in Gaza and you cannot believe anything Hamas are saying* 

 

 ( N.B , the above is making a point and isn't based on anything literally factual and I am not actually claiming that Hamas made that claim)

You've made a nonsensical leap.

You lack an understanding of logic.

 

In your childish example Hamas would be wrong about a nuclear weapon being used, but it cannot be extrapolated that everything Hamas says is untrue from such limited information.

 

Quite a dumb post to be honest.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Bit late with the fact checking bro.

You swallowed the nonsense hook, line and sinker in your rush to tar Palestinians.

You were wrong, admit it, apologise and move on.

 

So an Israel T.V station were "among the first" to report the story , they were not actually the first to report the story , they just reported on a report form elsewhere .

    Once again , the report was of 40 dead babies and some of them had been decapitated , your side is making the false claim that Israel are lying about there 40 decapitated babies 

   You are making false claims 

[ChipButty]

32 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Israel is occupying Gaza?  News to me. I thought they left something like 15 years ago. After which the businesses and farms they left behind were quickly looted and destroyed by Gazans.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna9331863

2005 Israel's unilateral disengagementOn 12 September 2005, the Israeli cabinet formally declared an end to Israeli military occupation of the Gaza Strip.

[MrMojoRisin]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

So an Israel T.V station were "among the first" to report the story , they were not actually the first to report the story , they just reported on a report form elsewhere .

    Once again , the report was of 40 dead babies and some of them had been decapitated , your side is making the false claim that Israel are lying about there 40 decapitated babies 

   You are making false claims 

Google Nicole Zedek - the journalist who first reported on the "child beheadings".

 

She works for a television channel based in Tel Aviv.

Tel Aviv is located in......?

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/journalist-first-reported-israeli-child-194917181.html

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Google Nicole Zedek - the journalist who first reported on the "child beheadings".

 

She works for a television channel based in Tel Aviv.

Tel Aviv is located in......?

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/journalist-first-reported-israeli-child-194917181.html

She didnt claim that 40 Children had been beheaded though, did she .

   The report was also from an international news station with studios in numerous Countries including Israel and the claim wasn't from Israel itself 

[proton]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

I disagree with you here.

The known atrocities that Hamas have unequivocally committed are reason enough for Israel to retaliate.

So why the need for the apparently false beheading of 40 babies story?

Israel has been on a multi decade campaign to dehumanise the Palestinians.

Israel constantly constantly refer to themselves as "civilised" and Palestinians as "savages"

They want the world to see Palestinians as nothing more than barbaric animals.

Why?

Makes it all the easier to carry on with their aparthied whilst progressing their slow motion genocide.

 

Given what the Jews went through, all of the awfulness inflicted upon them throughout history, most of which was preceded by the perpetrators dehumanising the Jews first, it is unimaginable that such horrors are being repeated by the very ones who should know better than everyone else how utterly inhumane such actions are.

When has Israel referred to Palestinians as 'savages' or 'barbaric animals' ? Hamas and other Islamic terrorists maybe, not ordinary Palestinians. There is no apartheid in Israel it's totally multi ethnic with equal rights, even some of the football team are muslim Arabs. Why are you making things up?

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Who is saying Israel should not respond?

What you've posed is a silly straw man argument.

 

Tell me this, in your scenario are the kids members of a society that has imprisoned the families of the 250+ cross border murderers in a concentration camp for the past 15 years?

it sounds like you are justifying terrorism.

 

There are ways to deal with oppression. Terrorism isn't a good choice.

[Danderman123]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

She didnt claim that 40 Children had been beheaded though, did she .

   The report was also from an international news station with studios in numerous Countries including Israel and the claim wasn't from Israel itself 

wrong.

 

 

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

I'd be upset and want justice.

I would not support mass indiscriminate slaughter or genocide.

 

What would you do if your loved one was shot dead at a checkpoint imposed in your homeland by an occupying foreign power?

The issue on the table is the mass killing by Hamas terrorists.

 

What would you suggest Israel do in response?

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

So why the need for the apparently false beheading of 40 babies story?

 

 

Edited October 12, 2023 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Danny Australia said:

The white house itself has just backtracked and said that Biden actually never saw such pictures himself. No 40 babies were beheaded. It's another Israeli lie to justify their cruel savage bombings of innocent civilians in Gaza. 

 

[Jingthing]

Hamas ideology is to kill all Jews.

Including Jewish babies. 

They are barbarians already regardless of what percentage of the Jewish babies they murder are mutilated or not.

Edited October 12, 2023 by Jingthing

[BarraMarra]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

I'd be upset and want justice.

I would not support mass indiscriminate slaughter or genocide.

 

What would you do if your loved one was shot dead at a checkpoint imposed in your homeland by an occupying foreign power?

Do unto them what they did to you. like what these murderess Hamas members to a family waiting to enter a kibutz.