Chinese nuclear-powered sub disaster, 55 dead in the Yellow Sea, a wakeup call for Thailand

[Mavideol]

nothing to worry about, the ones Thailand is buying will be delivered without an engine 555

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, blazes said:

No more backbone than Trudeau when dealing with the Chinese over dodgy behaviour on their  part.  So little backbone that Trudeau had to suffer the public humiliation of being reprimanded in public by Comrade Xi.

Who is Trudeau???

[Emdog]

3 hours ago, ignore it said:

Xi says, "Sorry about that German engine stuff.  How about we just upgrade you to a "like new" nuclear subbie?"

"Low mileage, only sunk once"

[blazes]

Just now, hotchilli said:

Who is Trudeau???

Precisely.

[quake]

6 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

Thailand , please do not buy this crap submarine from the chinese ... Better spend the 13,5 billion on chinese solar panels , and the thai people will profit from that sustainable electricity produced in Thailand .

What do they get from a submarine ? Only headaches ...

Well, You could get a lot of Top grade Charlie in that. 

[tandor]

3 hours ago, sandyf said:

Why Thailand?

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170822-why-its-not-surprising-that-ship-collisions-still-happen

Thailand has no known enemies..a few Corvettes is all they need.

[JeffersLos]

Hearsay is AseanNow news, now. ????

[JeffersLos]

4 minutes ago, tandor said:

Thailand has no known enemies

The Thai military has been battling an insurgency that has seen more than 7000 killed since 2004.

 

Sign your son up for the army and tell him to request a transfer to the Southern provinces. 

[tandor]

3 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

The Thai military has been battling an insurgency that has seen more than 7000 killed since 2004.

 

Sign your son up for the army and tell him to request a transfer to the Southern provinces. 

Im talking about underwater attack...get real.

[PETERTHEEATER]

5 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Was the sub that got caught up in its own sub-net named the Phoenix  ????

No. I think it was named 'Three Geese Flying East'????

 

As regards the Thai sub under construction, until it is agreed what engine will be installed the pressure hull cannot be completed. As far as I know, large units have to be installed prior to pressure hull closure due to lack of access once completed. The completion date, sea trials and acceptance are out of sight in the future.

[xtrnuno41]

Guess they fit well with the F 35's falling out of the sky, Thailand also wants.

[sandyf]

2 hours ago, tandor said:

Thailand has no known enemies..a few Corvettes is all they need.

You would have to explain what enemies have to do with marine accidents.

[cncltd1973]

11 hours ago, mikebell said:

What use is a sub?  What use could ฿13.5 billion be put to?  QED!

it's needed to visit their other ships at the bottom of the sea

[soi3eddie]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The subs will make a nice addition to the naval museum, once they realize that they are too expensive to maintain, they break down often, and they are too difficult for the inexperienced captains to pilot. 

But even once in the "museum" at Chuksamet, us farangs will not be allowed to visit. i.e as with the Spanish built aircraft carrier -  HTMS Chakri Naruebet

 

[Selatan]

Unsubstantiated rumour treated as fact? Even the Taiwan defence ministry refuted it.

 

In 2022, Xi was rumoured to be under house arrest when he was not seen for a few weeks after returning home from overseas.

This year, Xi was rumoured to have suffered an aneurysm after he was reported to be skipping the G20 summit.

 

But some people just love these anti-China rumours. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by Selatan

[Morch]

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The Thais were suckered into buying an MG quality sub, at a Rolls Royce price! It was a massive Chinese swindle. 

Or the price was inflated in order to get a larger commission.

[Morch]

7 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

The Thai military has been battling an insurgency that has seen more than 7000 killed since 2004.

 

Sign your son up for the army and tell him to request a transfer to the Southern provinces. 

Fighting the Southern insurgency requires submarines?

[Morch]

1 hour ago, soi3eddie said:

But even once in the "museum" at Chuksamet, us farangs will not be allowed to visit. i.e as with the Spanish built aircraft carrier -  HTMS Chakri Naruebet

 

Will Chinese expats and tourist be allowed entry?

 

[BarraMarra]

14 hours ago, jippytum said:

I don't think this would happen with the Thai submarine. The current one never leaves its moorings. 

They cant peddle it fast enough.

[Chris Daley]

It was made in China.  No wonder it broke.

[Gknrd]

Doubt if anything changes even if it does it won't make a difference. Politically Thailand and China see eye to eye.

[BarraMarra]

4 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

They cant peddle it fast enough.

No Engine in their Thai sub so to propel it around the Thai crew will use pedal power.

Edited October 10, 2023 by BarraMarra

[SABloke]

16 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Hearsay is AseanNow news, now. ????

Daily Mail originally reported this exclusive so it must be true ????

Edited October 10, 2023 by SABloke

[Artisi]

On 10/10/2023 at 11:22 AM, nobodysfriend said:

 

 

Thailand , please do not buy this crap submarine from the chinese ... Better spend the 13,5 billion on chinese solar panels , and the thai people will profit from that sustainable electricity produced in Thailand .

What do they get from a submarine ? Only headaches ...

And dead sailors

[spidermike007]

12 hours ago, Selatan said:

Unsubstantiated rumour treated as fact? Even the Taiwan defence ministry refuted it.

 

In 2022, Xi was rumoured to be under house arrest when he was not seen for a few weeks after returning home from overseas.

This year, Xi was rumoured to have suffered an aneurysm after he was reported to be skipping the G20 summit.

 

But some people just love these anti-China rumours. 

Can one blame them? China is not exactly wearing their power with grace and dignity. They are a major bully. 

[Artisi]

8 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

No Engine in their Thai sub so to propel it around the Thai crew will use pedal power.

Initially they requested holes thru' the hull so they could fit galley oars but decided against it as rain could get in during the wet session. 

 

But jokes aside, seems they have requested the leading engineers in the country to look at modifying tuk-tuk engines for submarine use, this is following a lengthy report that water-proof power extension leads weren't viable for electric motor propulsion. 

[Selatan]

14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Can one blame them? China is not exactly wearing their power with grace and dignity. They are a major bully. 

China is a major bully? Then the US is considered as what? A hyper-bully?

 

The rest of the world has suffered terribly from bullying by Western powers for the past few centuries until today.

 

Ever since the founding of the PRC, China has shown to the US, the UK, the Soviet Union and India that it cannot be pushed around any more. Other countries were not so lucky, including even a big power like Russia, which failed to stop the expansion of NATO.

 

Spreading rumours is a form of bullying, didn't you learn that in school?

[spidermike007]

8 hours ago, Selatan said:

China is a major bully? Then the US is considered as what? A hyper-bully?

 

The rest of the world has suffered terribly from bullying by Western powers for the past few centuries until today.

 

Ever since the founding of the PRC, China has shown to the US, the UK, the Soviet Union and India that it cannot be pushed around any more. Other countries were not so lucky, including even a big power like Russia, which failed to stop the expansion of NATO.

 

Spreading rumours is a form of bullying, didn't you learn that in school?

If you consider the absolute take over of the entire South China Sea, and the claiming it as it's own to be noble and righteous behevior, I have a bridge I can offer you a very good deal on. 

[Selatan]

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

If you consider the absolute take over of the entire South China Sea, and the claiming it as it's own to be noble and righteous behevior, I have a bridge I can offer you a very good deal on. 

Yes, tell that to the ROC.

 

The government that first made the South China Sea claims was not the People's Republic of China. It was the Republic of China (aka Taiwan) that first made that claim back in 1947 (before the founding of the PRC), with the blessing of the United States. In 1946, the ROC had sent warships which were given by the US to occupy the Spratlys and Paracels islands. Some of the islands were named after the ROC warships that were sent there.

 

Here's one of the warship:

 

USS Decker aka ROCS Tai Ping

 

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On 28 August 1945, she was leased to the Republic of China. Decker was returned from Lend-Lease and transferred permanently to China on 7 February 1948 and renamed ROCS Tai Ping (F-22; Chinese: 太平). ROCS Tai-ping was one of the four warships sent by the Republic of China Navy on 6 November 1946 to claim islands within the South China Sea region. On 12 December 1946 Tai Ping arrived at Itu Aba island, becoming the first Chinese government ship ever to visit the Spratly Islands. (An American force had landed on Itu Aba in November 1945 and discovered that the wartime Japanese garrison had departed. A French warship, the FR Chevreuil had landed a team on Itu Aba in October 1946, two months before the Tai-ping arrived.)^[1] The Chinese government gave Itu Aba the Chinese name of Taiping Island in honour of the ship.

 

[spidermike007]

16 hours ago, Selatan said:

Yes, tell that to the ROC.

 

The government that first made the South China Sea claims was not the People's Republic of China. It was the Republic of China (aka Taiwan) that first made that claim back in 1947 (before the founding of the PRC), with the blessing of the United States. In 1946, the ROC had sent warships which were given by the US to occupy the Spratlys and Paracels islands. Some of the islands were named after the ROC warships that were sent there.

 

Here's one of the warship:

 

USS Decker aka ROCS Tai Ping

 

 

How do you equate a bad decision by Taiwan to claim these islands, with the CCP claiming the entire South China Sea? It would be like the US claiming the entire Caribbean. It is a toxic, heinous, ugly overreach by a nation that is abusing the power they now have.