Thai Police not sure Norwegian man killed his partner in Chiang Mai

[webfact]

The couple were living in this house which is the last in a short row of six modern built houses. (Photo: Sofie Roennelund)

Police in Chiang Mai is not as sure as they initially were when on Tuesday 3 October 2023 they told local media that they suspected a 58 year old Norwegian man was the person who had committed the murder of a 39 year old Thai man in Chiang Mai.

 

The deceased man was identified as Mr. Chalit or Eddie by friends. Police had on 3 October 2023 found him with his throat slit in the kitchen of a house outside Chiang Mai where he and the Norwegian had been living for more than a year.

ScandAsia visited the house and the police station in Chiang Mai to get more details of what happened and see what evidence the police had collected against the Norwegian man who has from the beginning resisted attempts to make him confess to the murder.

 

Pol. Col. Phuwanat Duangdee, who is leading the investigation, was not available for comments, but an assistant informed ScandAsia that they now had to go meticulously through the all details from the crime scene and piece together these findings with the forensic report to see if there was any evidence that conclusively proved if the murder was committed by the Norwegian.

 

“We will call for a briefing when we are ready,” the assistant said. He confirmed that the case was complicated because the Norwegian embassy was involved and because the suspect denied and the evidence was not yet conclusive enough. While this was in progress, the Norwegian was released from police custody, supposedly on bail.

 

by Gregers Møller

 

Full story: ScandAsia 2023-10-13

 

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[harleyclarkey]

Ah now.....that's not like the good old BIB to jump to conclusions. 

 

They are the shining example to us all of careful, well thought out and considered police work. 

Well done lads, great work with this case. 

Edited October 12, 2023 by harleyclarkey
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[amykat]

I hope things are looking better for the Norwegian man.  Thanks for the news update.

[Olav Seglem]

RTP not happy because he didnt admit the accusations and the embassy got involved..

Really ????? :-)

 

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Pol. Col. Phuwanat Duangdee, who is leading the investigation, was not available for comments, but an assistant informed ScandAsia that they now had to go meticulously through the all details from the crime scene and piece together these findings with the forensic report to see if there was any evidence that conclusively proved if the murder was committed by the Norwegian.

Rather than force him to confess to a crime he maybe didn't commit.

[nobodysfriend]

They set him ( the norwegian man ) under pressure to make him confess ,because that would have been the easiest for police . But he did not . So , they need to start doing their job and gather evidence .

Never confess .

[Tropicalevo]

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the Norwegian crawling back and forth on the terrasse in front of the house seemingly in distress. Because of his illness, he was not able to walk.

Not easy to slit someone's throat if one cannot walk.

 

[Smokey and the Bandit]

1 hour ago, nobodysfriend said:

They set him ( the norwegian man ) under pressure to make him confess ,because that would have been the easiest for police . But he did not . So , they need to start doing their job and gather evidence .

Never confess .

Absolutely, don't people have the right to remain silent in Thailand?

[brianthainess]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Pol. Col. Phuwanat Duangdee, who is leading the investigation, was not available for comments,

To busy trying to find his face. 

 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He confirmed that the case was complicated because the Norwegian embassy was involved

Complicated Why? What does that even mean? just because an embassy is involved, you mean they are watching us better be careful in the interrogations not to beat it out of him. 

[klauskunkel]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

informed ScandAsia that they now had to go meticulously through the all details from the crime scene and piece together these findings with the forensic report to see if there was any evidence that conclusively proved if the murder was committed by the Norwegian.

Look, RTP have stumbled on the concept of investigative work. Let's see what they do with it...

[Paradise Pete]

3 hours ago, harleyclarkey said:

Ah now.....that's not like the good old BIB to jump to conclusions. 

 

Exactly. That's this forum's job. Typical by the second or third sentence of any article the entire situation is sussed out and posted.

[brianthainess]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

n assistant informed ScandAsia that they now had to go meticulously through the all details from the crime scene and piece together these findings with the forensic report

No Sh8t Sherlock really

[Marco51]

3 hours ago, harleyclarkey said:

Ah now.....that's not like the good old BIB to jump to conclusions. 

 

They are the shining example to us all of careful, well thought out and considered police work. 

Well done lads, great work with this case. 

...after they let the "free press" of Thai Rath and consorts trample through and make photos with and without the leading eye of the lore............

[David T Pike]

Guilty until proven innocent... ????

[BenStark]

4 hours ago, harleyclarkey said:

Ah now.....that's not like the good old BIB to jump to conclusions. 

I think you are confused with the armchair inspectors on this forum

[AustinRacing]

What the police is really saying is that a brown envelope was delivered but not sure the content was adequate for total exoneration. Pending the next envelope’s content a decision will be made accordingly. 

[edwinchester]

1 hour ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Absolutely, don't people have the right to remain silent in Thailand?

Only with a plastic bag over their head.

[Elkski]

Did sound like a good investigative reporter is on the case.  Seems like the first time I thought that in 5 years on AN.   So now that, that dam embassy is involved and he didn't confess while we grilled him up good we will start to investigate the evidence?   Crazy!   Seems like it would be rather easy to frame or get framed in Thailand 

Edited October 13, 2023 by Elkski

[newnative]

   Not liking that sentence at all regarding the suspect 'resisting attempts to make him confess to the murder'.  Wonder what those 'attempts' were.  Hopefully not plastic bags put over his head.  Also scandalous the part about the police now having to go back (WORK, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE) and actually take a look at the evidence.  Wow.  First we have to WORK attempting to get a confession out of him and when that wasn't successful, more WORK looking at boring evidence--if any was even collected.  Where can I sign up for one of those 'inactive posts'?  Nobody told me there would be work involved when I signed on.  Hopefully we can just go through the motions before trying some more 'attempts' on him.

[newnative]

3 hours ago, brianthainess said:

To busy trying to find his face. 

 

Complicated Why? What does that even mean? just because an embassy is involved, you mean they are watching us better be careful in the interrogations not to beat it out of him. 

Exactly.

[LikeItHot]

3 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Absolutely, don't people have the right to remain silent in Thailand?

Depends how you look at rights to silence.  Last year the BIB gave that drug dealer permanent silence while they tried to beat a confession out of him with a plastic bag over his head.  

[LikeItHot]

4 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

They set him ( the norwegian man ) under pressure to make him confess ,because that would have been the easiest for police . But he did not . So , they need to start doing their job and gather evidence .

Never confess .

Funny how in normal countries a confession needs to be proven to be consistent with evidence. A confession on its own is meaningless.

[shackleton]

Surely the police will check for finger prints on the knife / machete used in the killing 

Which should prove if the Norwegian guy is  guilty or not ????

[thailand49]

This guy got to be a tough bird? 

They they scare him, maybe even beat and put a plastic bag over his head and nothing so he must be innocent. 

So now they decide better go back and collect evidence or better yet plant some because these guys already trample over the scene. If only they do such a job when a farang dies. 

Years ago I had a Australia classmate in Thailand language he express feat for his life a month later he was dead.  Police claim he jump off his balcony.

 

[Charlest1971]

23 minutes ago, shackleton said:

Surely the police will check for finger prints on the knife / machete used in the killing 

Which should prove if the Norwegian guy is  guilty or not ????

If the machete or a kitchen knife is his, it is bound to have his finger prints on it. This in no way means he used it, to murder someone. I think the key here, is did the murder weapon have multiple sets of finger prints on it? Perhaps someone came into the house and used this weapon? 

[Docno]

Sounds like the Thai police are far too reliant on confessions (and I can only imagine what they might do to extract them ... I still remember the plastic-bag-over-the-head incident). According to the Innocence Project, approximately 25% of individuals who were wrongfully convicted but later exonerated through DNA evidence had made false confessions or incriminating statements ... and that's in the US where interrogations are recorded and scrutinised.

 

Also, wasn't the title used here a week ago: "Norwegian man murders his Thai boyfriend in Chiang Mai" with several people noting that there should be a presumption of innocence? I guess this latest development proves their point...

[smew]

Like I posted and said earlier.. ex boyfriend did it.. next case pls   

[dunroaming]

10 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

They set him ( the norwegian man ) under pressure to make him confess ,because that would have been the easiest for police . But he did not . So , they need to start doing their job and gather evidence .

Never confess .

I assume you mean never confess if you are innocent?  But I agree with you.  Maybe now they will  disconnect the electrical wires from his private parts, put away the waterboarding kit and revert to proper police investigating. 

[Caldera]

Stellar police work on display once again. Point fingers first, try to make sense of the case later. 

[Umlungu]

10 hours ago, Docno said:

Sounds like the Thai police are far too reliant on confessions (and I can only imagine what they might do to extract them ... I still remember the plastic-bag-over-the-head incident). According to the Innocence Project, approximately 25% of individuals who were wrongfully convicted but later exonerated through DNA evidence had made false confessions or incriminating statements ... and that's in the US where interrogations are recorded and scrutinised.

 

Also, wasn't the title used here a week ago: "Norwegian man murders his Thai boyfriend in Chiang Mai" with several people noting that there should be a presumption of innocence? I guess this latest development proves their point...

"Also, wasn't the title used here a week ago: "Norwegian man murders his Thai boyfriend in Chiang Mai" with several people noting that there should be a presumption of innocence? I guess this latest development proves their point..."

 

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