Popular Post snoop1130 Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 Several airlines have introduced weight checks for passengers and their luggage before boarding to calculate standard and average passenger weight. This passenger weigh-in measure, initiated today, allows airlines to distribute weight more effectively on international flights, thus reducing fuel usage. Foreign airlines have implemented the passenger weigh-in rule to investigate and calculate standard and average passenger weight. The collected data will help them ascertain weight distribution on their international flights, contributing to reduced aeroplane fuel consumption. Previously, the Fly AirAsia Facebook page posted that during the week of October 16 to 20, at Don Mueang Airport, some flights from various airlines requested volunteer passengers to weigh themselves and their luggage to gather average weight data. This passenger weigh-in data would then be used to update and enhance service efficiency, aligning with safety standards. The airlines carried out this operation in collaboration with the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand to collect such data. Passenger weight data will be kept confidential, complying with the PDPA law. Recently, Thai Lion Air also initiated a passenger weigh-in measure. They stated that during the week of October 17 to 20, they invited passengers to contribute to average weight statistics for themselves and their luggage. By Nattapong Westwood Caption: Photo: KhaoSod Full story: The Thaiger 2023-10-20 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 5 1 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Is the luggage not evenly distributed in the hold, depending on it's weight. It is the varying weights of the passengers in the cabin which needs looking at. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peabody Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 So if you prepay for a specific seat, you may get moved? 7 2 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 Very intrusive. I think I would start saying NO to the airlines who engage in this policy. See ya! 10 1 1 6 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Iron Tongue Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 It has nothing to do with weight distribution. It's another opportunity to charge more per seat. 25 2 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DjSilver Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 Another reason why passengers are giving up on Thai air. Always bankruptcy when the board of directors are all Thai 🤣 3 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IamNoone88 Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 Its complete rubbish. Commercial flights started in 1914 over 100 years ago ... airline safety standards and engineering standards are second to none .... and there is no data available on average weight distribution for individuals ... anywhere .. including national health services? Airlines are looking to gouge passengers yet again ... Ryanair even call it a "fat tax". 11 3 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blazes Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 In Asia, there is generally no problem with obesity (so, yes, this may just be an opportunity to gouge further). In the US of A on the other hand.... 7 1 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 11 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Several airlines have introduced weight checks for passengers and their luggage before boarding to calculate standard and average passenger weight. This passenger weigh-in measure, initiated today, allows airlines to distribute weight more effectively on international flights, thus reducing fuel usage. I find the above hard to believe So are they allocating seat positions according to passenger weight or just an overall take-off weight? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobydog Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, spidermike007 said: Very intrusive. I think I would start saying NO to the airlines who engage in this policy. See ya! This practice was alive and well years ago in the Philippines, don't know about now, it's been a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Peabody said: So if you prepay for a specific seat, you may get moved? The whole thing about passenger weight/distribution in the aircraft is total BS Hold luggage is weighed and distributed to help the aircraft trim.. Passengers will still be able to sit where they like.. Unless they are weighed and told which seat to sit in.. which they are not doing. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, spidermike007 said: Very intrusive. I think I would start saying NO to the airlines who engage in this policy. See ya! Would you then continue your journey on foot? 2 1 3 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elkski Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 I am all for paying for over a base weight and you Should need to pay for a wider or double seat if you will intrude on nearby seats. Its obvious that a 50 kg person costs much less fuel than a 120kg person. 15 1 4 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PeachCH Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 Too many fat, overweight people around. Good measure from the airlines. 👍 10 6 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AhFarangJa Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 In the nineties when flying from the Middle East the planes were often only a quarter full, if that. (Ah, the good old days), The cabin crew used to make us sit in the allocated seats for take off, but then we could move around and sleep across three seats. They said it was for weight distribution during take off. We were also asked to return to our original seats for landing. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyc1957 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 12 hours ago, KannikaP said: Is the luggage not evenly distributed in the hold, depending on it's weight. It is the varying weights of the passengers in the cabin which needs looking at. That's exactly what the post is saying, that passengers are being weighed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post waders123 Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) Phase 1: Airlines request volunteer passengers to weigh themselves and their luggage to gather average weight data. You know for weight distribution and fuel savings. Wink, Wink. If no real pushback from Passengers, Airlines will move on to the next phase. Phase 2: Airlines will demand passengers to weigh themselves and their luggage to gather average weight data. You know for weight distribution and fuel savings. Wink, Wink, and a Wei. Again, if no real pushback from Passengers, Airlines will move on to the next phase. Phase 3: Airlines will have a set weight limit for each passenger and their carry-ons, (weight limits will more than likely vary from airline to airline). An additional fee will be applied to passengers who exceed the limit. This is just another bad idea to float out there when every country's economy is in the toilet and desperately needs all the cash injection they can get! This is definitely not a positive PR move for tourism. I can see it now: Come enjoy what our beautiful country has to offer, but first, you need to step on these scales so we can extract more money out of your pockets and make you feel like s#&t and pi$$ you off. Welcome to our country! I would only hope there will be a LOT of passenger pushback to this sort of airline practice. Because, just like the seats, weight limits could be subject to smaller sizes/limits; in the end, everyone could be paying to collect weight information for weight distribution and fuel savings. Wink, Wink, and a happy Wei. Edited October 20, 2023 by waders123 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ben Zioner Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 Dual pricing down the road? Maybe not, most Thai men, and even women, weigh more than my [modest] 85Kg. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gaucan Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, PeachCH said: Too many fat, overweight people around. Good measure from the airlines. 👍 ye so annoyed by all this fat n proud godzillas stuffying their oily mouth with another fried chicken and sugary hamburger . maybe they should start throwing em off plane , to see which piggie do bigger splash😁😆🤣 Edited October 20, 2023 by gaucan 1 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Very intrusive. I think I would start saying NO to the airlines who engage in this policy. See ya! Disagree. Eventually overly large people should be expected to pay more. It’s not my fault they overeat and use more fuel. I check in with a bag one kilo over and get charged handsomely for the pleasure, while a fatty twice my size with a bag slightly underweight does not get penalised. Time to call them out and also pay for an extra seat if they encroach on their neighbour. 8 7 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bdenner Posted October 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2023 I'm thinking a number of you have got the airline intentions wrong. The way I read it they are trying to gather PAX and baggage weight in order to see if they can reduce the fuel load and in effect increase performance efficiency. 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, waders123 said: Phase 1: Airlines request volunteer passengers to weigh themselves and their luggage to gather average weight data. You know for weight distribution and fuel savings. Wink, Wink. If no real pushback from Passengers, Airlines will move on to the next phase. Phase 2: Airlines will demand passengers to weigh themselves and their luggage to gather average weight data. You know for weight distribution and fuel savings. Wink, Wink, and a Wei. Again, if no real pushback from Passengers, Airlines will move on to the next phase. Phase 3: Airlines will have a set weight limit for each passenger and their carry-ons, (weight limits will more than likely vary from airline to airline). An additional fee will be applied to passengers who exceed the limit. This is just another bad idea to float out there when every country's economy is in the toilet and desperately needs all the cash injection they can get! This is definitely not a positive PR move for tourism. I can see it now: Come enjoy what our beautiful country has to offer, but first, you need to step on these scales so we can extract more money out of your pockets and make you feel like s#&t and pi$$ you off. Welcome to our country! I would only hope there will be a LOT of passenger pushback to this sort of airline practice. Because, just like the seats, weight limits could be subject to smaller sizes/limits; in the end, everyone could be paying to collect weight information for weight distribution and fuel savings. Wink, Wink, and a happy Wei. Who really started this passenger weighing business? Wink, wink, wink, wink, wink and a Wai. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NORDO Posted October 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) As a retired flight deck member, I’ve often wondered why the airline doesn’t restrict the size of a pax or crew member to a size that can readily negotiate an evac through the smallest emergency exit. This would also correlate to weight in some, but not all cases. Imagine an accelerated evac procedure with screaming and yelling people in a very dimly light cabin trying to make it out the wing exit window. Some windows are of the plug type and must be pulled inward, turned and shoved outward. Some you just drop on the floor and crawl over. The newer aircraft actually use a gull wing design that un locks several door pins and allows the window open outward and up. Now imagine you are the fourth or fifth person trying to get out the window when an oversized person can not fit through it and it plugging up the exit. Average passenger weights have bee used by carriers for a long time. Their are many variables due human physical sizes from different geographical areas. As well, winter clothing and tropical clothing. Carry-ons are another issue. Iv’e often thought the carriers should charge by the Kg per KM concept as in frieght. Edited October 21, 2023 by NORDO edit 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LukKrueng Posted October 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Elkski said: I am all for paying for over a base weight and you Should need to pay for a wider or double seat if you will intrude on nearby seats. Its obvious that a 50 kg person costs much less fuel than a 120kg person. Add long as it comes with the same % discount for those under the average I'm all for it 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Passengers are a very small part of the total weight limits of the aircraft but are being targeted because they have no say or representation in the matter... it is all about the revenue 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted October 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2023 This is a precursor to charging passenger tickets by weight. Any other explanation is BS. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie baby Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Doesn't matter what you weigh in the end, supply & demand will rule, as it always as? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukKrueng Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, NORDO said: As a retired flight deck member, I’ve often wondered why the airline doesn’t restrict the size of a pax or crew member to a size that can readily negotiate an evac through the smallest emergency exit So what you're saying is that passengers should be designed to fit the airplane? I think it should be the other way around... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sandrew33 Posted October 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Elkski said: I am all for paying for over a base weight and you Should need to pay for a wider or double seat if you will intrude on nearby seats. Its obvious that a 50 kg person costs much less fuel than a 120kg person. Provided the seat sizes are similarly adjusted to reflect that. I mean midget seats, small, medium, large. Why they are allowed to sell seats that can’t fit a normal sized fit westerner is odd. 🤷🏻♂️ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said: Dual pricing down the road? Maybe not, most Thai men, and even women, weigh more than my [modest] 85Kg. The median weight for airplane passengers including one carry on has been determined to be 84 kg... as an individual I am over the limit at 105 kg, but do my wife and I traveling together get a couple rate as our total weight is less than the 168 kg for two people??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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