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Getting used to live in a wheel chair

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52 minutes ago, giddyup said:

it's not just being alive, it's still being creative and able to perform live concerts, same with Paul McCartney.

Who does look a bit silly with bleached blond hair on the Now & Than video.

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26 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Maybe against his religion.

It is possible to change your religion. Pleant of people including Cat Stevens to Islam, and was it Tony Blair Protestant to Catholic. 

I am considering Rastafarianism!

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There's only two things I couldn't live without; my sight and my sense of humour. The rest I could manage.

59 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Were those Pattaya go go bars like a USA drive in movie 

 

Summer nights: the US drive-in cinemas still packing 'em in | United States  holidays | The Guardian

 

Nice cars....

On 11/4/2023 at 10:07 AM, QuantumQuandry said:

There is a psychology theory of a set-point to happiness, though I think it may vary, depending on the life event.

 

 

This is work we need to do every day, just like we try to keep our muscle mass and metabolism intact to support and extend our physical health. Just like these things can be reset, so too can our optimism.

 

We can up our resilience and equanimity via meditation, self-help or whatever works for us. Work done on this now will be money in the bank later when we hit a late age disaster. These qualities will support our happiness and diminish our misery.

 

As to the rest of it, it's a reminder: if you want a guarantee in this life, buy a toaster.

51 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

It is possible to change your religion. Pleant of people including Cat Stevens to Islam, and was it Tony Blair Protestant to Catholic. 

I am considering Rastafarianism!

One love ❤️ 

5 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

 

This is work we need to do every day, just like we try to keep our muscle mass and metabolism intact to support and extend our physical health. Just like these things can be reset, so too can our optimism.

 

We can up our resilience and equanimity via meditation, self-help or whatever works for us. Work done on this now will be money in the bank later when we hit a late age disaster. These qualities will support our happiness and diminish our misery.

 

As to the rest of it, it's a reminder: if you want a guarantee in this life, buy a toaster.


The muscle mass thing is a red herring…

17 minutes ago, NextG said:


The muscle mass thing is a red herring…

Interestingly, I was reading today about how for older weight lifters, 2 sessions a week does MORE for you than 3 sessions a week, due to the deeper rest that spurs on greater muscle growth between sessions.

 

2 sessions a week gets you 25% more muscle improvement than if you lifted 3 times a week.

 

Going a little (not a lot) harder during those two sessions and resting 2 minutes between sets also amps up the improvement. So much of the well-intentioned self-help advice we get also includes a useless dose of self-punishment.

 

https://us.humankinetics.com/blogs/excerpt/training-frequency-requirements-for-older-adults

 

I don't want to take this useful thread off-topic. My boring point is that any work at all we do now is helpful for later decline.

 

I read in Billy Idol's autobiography that had he not been weight training, he would have never walked again after his motorcycle accident. Whereas I saw him live (with a cane) 9 months after it.

 

 

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

 

I am considering Rastafarianism!

Super longevity diet. Basically, vegan + a bit of fish. Zero booze, just Ganga.

16 hours ago, Denim said:

 

They were a very usual sight here in lower Petchabun until a few months ago but they are gradually becoming fewer since the one guy who could fix them moved away. For those that have a pick up truck they can load it aboard and drive to wherever it can be repaired in the provincial capitol. Without a means to get it to where it can be repaired .....you are stuffed. Worth pointing out that those three wheelers are usually very heavy on account of the batteries.

If you have a pickup and enough spare money, would it be possible to get a electric winch built onto the pickup bed with perhaps a SWL of 300 kg or so?

 

An alternative vehicle might be a minibus with the rear row of seats removed..

 

The biggest problem I have seen for people with a wheelchair is the arrogant self entitled people who park in the spots reserved for disabled people.

 

In the UK my first FIL had an artificial leg from when he was 4 years old. He could drive and when people parked illegally in a disabled spot he would park as close to them as he could and block them in.

 

It may be too dangerous to do that it Thailand though.

4 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

If he has the coin !

 

https://www.mobility.fun/offroad-wheelchair

 

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What a brilliant piece of kit. I wonder what the range is like, size and weight, plus the dimensions etc,

 

Here is a link to the brochure though it does not seem too informative,

 

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/59535cc978d171b8a62791bd/t/59fac47fc8302592d85b5ec8/1509606547856/leaflet+Offroad-Wheelchair.pdf

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I've been in a wheelchair for ten years after my health crashed at 65yo about 3 years after moving to Thailand. It wasn't entirely unexpected; my health had been declining for years.  A decision to emigrate came after my much younger Australian gf decamped after deciding she didn't want to end up as a carer when she still had much life to live. Can't blame her. 

Selling up and moving to Thailand, I found a culture, a lifestyle and a lady that suited me much more than did the structured expectations of the west. I will never return there; all my family are either deceased or scattered and would never interrupt their lives (nor be asked) to care for an old fart. 

Suddenly being unable to walk, nor drive myself was initially a massive shock, but you adapt to change. With the wheelchair, I found I could get around the house and gardens faster and with a lot less pain. However, Thailand and particularly Phuket where I lived, are not wheelchair friendly. Socially I have definitely found restrictions. I now rate restaurants bars, etc. based on accessibility, not cuisine or service. I don't go out as much.

My lady had to learn how to drive a car, a skill I fear she will never quite come to terms with. Obviously, my social life is more constrained, but you have to learn to live with change. I eventually bought a rural property up country not far from her village, and built a house with large rooms, wide doors, accessible bathrooms and toilet, and a verandah all around. I use a 3-wheel electric scooter to get around the fields and pond and even do some gardening including cutting lawns from it using a grass trimmer.

The subject of the thread seems to have all that's needed to live much the same life he has now - money, accessible residence, nearby facilities, etc. Although, a caretaker, in whatever form, would be essential.

Far be it for me to suggest he slow down some of his hedonistic lifestyle.

25 minutes ago, billd766 said:

If you have a pickup and enough spare money, would it be possible to get a electric winch built onto the pickup bed with perhaps a SWL of 300 kg or so?

 

 

That might work for those with a pick up.

 

Fortunately, my wife's scooter folds down and will just about fit in the boot of our Vios. We will get it repaired when we are next in Bangkok in December then give it to one of the grandchildren there.

 

I won't  buy another one but will get my wife a little Honda Giorno ( old style from Japan )to get around the village.

On 11/4/2023 at 9:50 AM, retarius said:

Please enlighten me....maybe by PM. I have easy Alzheimer's and the outlook isn't that good. I might be looking for somewhere in the next few years.

No offence but how would you remember ><

12 minutes ago, Denim said:

 

That might work for those with a pick up.

 

Fortunately, my wife's scooter folds down and will just about fit in the boot of our Vios. We will get it repaired when we are next in Bangkok in December then give it to one of the grandchildren there.

 

I won't  buy another one but will get my wife a little Honda Giorno ( old style from Japan )to get around the village.

If it comes to it for me I would like to get a battery trike with hopefully at least a 60 km range which would easily get me/her into the local big village or the Amphur which is about 20 km away and more importantly, back home again.

 

It would be easy to park under the balcony for charging and access.

There is a company in Bangkok that does various types of electric vehicle including one that can carry a wheelchair (look under police and emergency vehicles).

 

Unfortunately I don't have a brochure or price list.

 

http://www.gemcarasia.co.th/en/home

 

 

Why does it have to be electric? Aren’t there three wheeled motorcycles with a far greater range?

50 minutes ago, billd766 said:

There is a company in Bangkok that does various types of electric vehicle including one that can carry a wheelchair (look under police and emergency vehicles).

 

Unfortunately I don't have a brochure or price list.

 

http://www.gemcarasia.co.th/en/home

 

 

Looks ten years out of date..

1 hour ago, NextG said:

Looks ten years out of date..

It may well be.

 

Instead of complaining, why don't you find a better one.

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

It may well be.

 

Instead of complaining, why don't you find a better one.

Was I complaining or was I just pointing out a fait accompli ?

1 hour ago, NextG said:

Why does it have to be electric? Aren’t there three wheeled motorcycles with a far greater range?

Quite possibly but electric scooters are cheaper to run.

 

The also have easier access. and are better for the environment

 

Do you have links to any sites for 3 wheel motorbikes with models and prices. 

 

If so put them on the thread.

1 minute ago, NextG said:

Was I complaining or was I just pointing out a fait accompli ?

Your post added nothing of value.

 

You work it out.

Just now, billd766 said:

Quite possibly but electric scooters are cheaper to run.

 

The also have easier access. and are better for the environment

 

Do you have links to any sites for 3 wheel motorbikes with models and prices. 

 

If so put them on the thread.

No I don’t. But I can find them if someone expresses an interest. Or are you just irritated and trying to get back at me in your own head?

Just now, billd766 said:

Your post added nothing of value.

 

You work it out.

Grumpy old man today?

 

7 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Quite possibly but electric scooters are cheaper to run.

 

The also have easier access. and are better for the environment

 

Do you have links to any sites for 3 wheel motorbikes with models and prices. 

 

If so put them on the thread.

I remember there being a place that did the mods; perhaps on Thepprasit. 
https://www.ozimoto.com/

 

Okay grumpysocks 🧦? 😊

1 hour ago, NextG said:

I remember there being a place that did the mods; perhaps on Thepprasit. 
https://www.ozimoto.com/

 

Okay grumpysocks 🧦? 😊

A sensible and useful post at last.

 

Thank you

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

A sensible and useful post at last.

 

Thank you

Hope it helps 

12 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Thank you for the link.

 

The 2 problems I would have is they are expensive, but they are custom built. I would prefer something that I could use and leave for my wife to use  (or what ever she wants to do with it) after I die.

 

The other and more difficult problem for me is that I don't travel well nowadays and my wife has to drive me in the pickup. It is the best part of 500 KM each way

21 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Thank you for the link.

 

The 2 problems I would have is they are expensive, but they are custom built. I would prefer something that I could use and leave for my wife to use  (or what ever she wants to do with it) after I die.

 

The other and more difficult problem for me is that I don't travel well nowadays and my wife has to drive me in the pickup. It is the best part of 500 KM each way

They were in Pattaya, but it seems they might have closed that outlet. Best to enquire if interested. 

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