briley Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Having just got an "under consideration" for a visa conversion I started wondering. Does "Under Consideration" ever get refused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 I thought not, that it's just a formality. But some time ago when I was at immigration, there was a foreigner informed of a 'denied' result. He didn't take it well, behaved badly and was 'escorted' out of sight. Guess he made their point. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Normally not. However, it might be, as they are given time to look into if the applicant has made any serious offenses or been braking the law. Moreover they can look at the persons reason to stay, and if that is correct with collected facts. So, yes it can be denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lite Beer Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 Very rarely. The fact that the local office has accepted the application means that all is usually ok. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 It is extremely rare. In cases where there is a problem, you will usually be contacted by phone, and given the opportunity to fix the defect in your application. However, the senior official at Division headquarters has discretion. There can be cases where this official is incensed by something in your Immigration history (a vendetta against a particular agent, or a previous volunteer visa issued to a non volunteer, for instance) and decides to retaliate for reasons unrelated to the normal conditions for receiving the extension. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Never say never, but it certainly doesn't happen a lot. Still, the sign-off required might bring something up that proves to be a stumbling block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Almost never. I assumed you did this at your local IO office, and they will never send an application that does not meet all the requirements , as it would make them look bad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) The main reason that the a marriage extension is sent to the regional HQ is because they and only they can carry out some extra checks to ensure that the marriage is a genuine one. There have been a lot of faux marriages over the years, mainly marriages of convenience to enable the male partner to stay in country. Those of us in genuine relationships have nothing to be concerned about. Edited November 14, 2023 by Moonlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 NO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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briley Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 Thanks for the replies, just as I thought you have to be very naughty to get refused an "Under Consideration". But it is interesting that the procedure does check and you can be refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Phoenix Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 As mentioned in previous posts, it is very rare that an Application 'under consideration' is refused. The fact alone that the local Imm Office accepted the application is already proof that you met all the requirements. So the only reasons for such very rare refusal are: - When the Divisional Headquarter that has to approve the application, finds a reason for not granting such approval; - When the house-visit goes sideways and the Imm Officer conducting that check gives a negative advice. Note: The latter case happened recently to a female friend of mine. She was not home when the visit took place, and her Thai husband had a bad hang-over or was drunk when the female Imm Officer arrived. When checking the status of her application on the local Immigration website, my female friend saw that it was refused, and when she went with her Thai husband to the Imm Office to enquire, the Imm Officer said 'drunk'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigt3116 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said: When checking the status of her application on the local Immigration website, Wow, which office lets you view the status of your application online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Phoenix Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, bigt3116 said: Wow, which office lets you view the status of your application online? Phuket 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likerdup1 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 22 hours ago, BritTim said: It is extremely rare. In cases where there is a problem, you will usually be contacted by phone, and given the opportunity to fix the defect in your application. However, the senior official at Division headquarters has discretion. There can be cases where this official is incensed by something in your Immigration history (a vendetta against a particular agent, or a previous volunteer visa issued to a non volunteer, for instance) and decides to retaliate for reasons unrelated to the normal conditions for receiving the extension. Thank you Brit Tim, this was my experience also. First time at CW Division 1 I was asked to return for the "result" which is a bit misleading... lost in translation. But as you had mentioned on my post that if the docs are accepted it's 99% going to be approved and a stamp given. I was told at the C1 desk to put my phone number on the application in the event they did want to contact me for more information etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likerdup1 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) I wonder if the extension for the initial Non-O for purpose of retirement will also require "under consideration" and a return for the result? Or does one get the extension stamp day of the application at CW division 1? I will be making an appointment for desk "L" Edited November 15, 2023 by likerdup1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, likerdup1 said: I wonder if the extension for the initial Non-O for purpose of retirement will also require "under consideration" and a return for the result? Or does one get the extension stamp day of the application at CW division 1? I will be making an appointment for desk "L" Retirement extensions are given straight away if accepted. No under consideration. Edited November 15, 2023 by Lite Beer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 hours ago, likerdup1 said: I wonder if the extension for the initial Non-O for purpose of retirement will also require "under consideration" and a return for the result? Or does one get the extension stamp day of the application at CW division 1? I will be making an appointment for desk "L" 2 hours ago, Lite Beer said: Retirement extensions are given straight away if accepted. No under consideration. The application for the initial Non O visa at Immigration is taken under consideration. Extensions on the basis of retirement are approved straight away at the local immigration office. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 I think I remember reading on this site some time ago that an applicant dived into his 400,000 and took it below the level required before the extension had been given. Submitting the application doesn't mean anyone can then 'break the rules', before it has been considered and given. Most of the time they don't check but if they do then they would have grounds to refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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