Israel says it is carrying out ‘precise and targeted operation’ in Gaza’s Al-Shifa Hospital

[Morch]

10 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Tell me why there are 5000 dead children, so far, in Gaza!

 

Because people die in wars.

Even Children.

 

Why did Hamas start this knowing the consequences?

Why doesn't Hamas offer any protection to the civilians? Or at least the children?

Why did Hamas leaders call on Gazans to stay put and face the Israeli attacks?

 

Maybe it's because, in their own words, sacrifices need to be made.

Not by them or their families, obviously.

 

[Patong2]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Gee, those Al Jazeera censors must be the most incompetent censors on the planet!

 

Sure, some shots better deleted to prove one sides' view. Why they were left in I don't know.

What I do believe is that israel dropped over 6,000 bombs on a defenseless people, because the israelis said they did. Over 6,000 bombs is killing a lot of defenseless people. Whether it's 5,000 children or 500 children dead it's too many.

 

Otherwise, I believe what netanyahu says, and it's monstrous.

 

6000 bombs eh?

Well it certainly isn't Genocide with only 12,000 dead is it?

Genocide is bombing all the hospital compounds full of people.

 

[herfiehandbag]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Gee, those Al Jazeera censors must be the most incompetent censors on the planet!

 

I'll add some so you don't have to. saying there is no fuel, but showing cars driving to the south, saying no fuel, but showing fire hoses being operated putting out fires caused by israeli bombs, no fuel for machinery, but a digger removing rubble of a building blown up by the israelis to find buried bodies.

 

Sure, some shots better deleted to prove one sides' view. Why they were left in I don't know.

What I do believe is that israel dropped over 6,000 bombs on a defenseless people, because the israelis said they did. Over 6,000 bombs is killing a lot of defenseless people. Whether it's 5,000 children or 500 children dead it's too many.

 

Otherwise, I believe what netanyahu says, and it's monstrous.

So what are your views to the 1400 Israelis slaughtered on October the 7th, and the 142 kidnapped and held hostage?

 

[2baht]

10 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Hamas started this war, can you not see that. No mention of the Palestinian killers so what can we conclude from that! Nobody would be getting killed on either side but for the evil terrorists. 

I don't for a minute condone what Hamas have done, but innocent children ARE NOT Hamas!

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

It’s not up to me to show you. I don’t use an ignore list. I am not ignorant to what is posted on this forum, with links to sources. Unlike you.

I don't need to go on here to know what is going on, and I don't need to read any news media linked to western governments to know they are biased.

 

BTW, you made the claim so it's up to you to prove it or I can make my own conclusions as to the truth.

[2baht]

2 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

So what are your views to the 1400 Israelis slaughtered on October the 7th, and the 142 kidnapped and held hostage?

 

Paid back to 10 to 1, and counting!

[Neeranam]

7 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Didn't see you making any comments when dozens of Israeli babies and children were deliberately and brutally massacred with some having their heads and limbs hacked and dozens more that have been kidnapped by soul less barbarians against children...

I did, it was terrible. However, even Biden lied about it, so was not sure what to believe by the Israeli propagandists.

However 50 or so kids is hardly the same as over 4,000. Hardly “precise and targeted operation”

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Gee, those Al Jazeera censors must be the most incompetent censors on the planet!

 

I'll add some so you don't have to. saying there is no fuel, but showing cars driving to the south, saying no fuel, but showing fire hoses being operated putting out fires caused by israeli bombs, no fuel for machinery, but a digger removing rubble of a building blown up by the israelis to find buried bodies.

 

Sure, some shots better deleted to prove one sides' view. Why they were left in I don't know.

What I do believe is that israel dropped over 6,000 bombs on a defenseless people, because the israelis said they did. Over 6,000 bombs is killing a lot of defenseless people. Whether it's 5,000 children or 500 children dead it's too many.

 

Otherwise, I believe what netanyahu says, and it's monstrous.

 

@thaibeachlovers shooting himself in the leg again....

 

If you accept that AJ deleted some shots to 'prove one side's view', then you obviously accept it is neither objective, nor following reporting standards.

 

As for your bomb to casualty ratio - take a minute to think about it. One bomb (or more) per casualty. Does that sounds like an efficient way of targeting civilians? Or of conducting a genocide? If anything, it makes the case for opposite claims.

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't need to go on here to know what is going on, and I don't need to read any news media linked to western governments to know they are biased.

 

BTW, you made the claim so it's up to you to prove it or I can make my own conclusions as to the truth.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Sucks on AJ's teat, goes on about 'biased' Western sources 'linked to governments'.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

So what are your views to the 1400 Israelis slaughtered on October the 7th, and the 142 kidnapped and held hostage?

 

 

 

If YOU were a Palestinian under illegal occupation and daily humiliation, would YOU accept it, or want to fight back any way YOU could?

[Wobblybob]

Just now, 2baht said:

I don't for a minute condone what Hamas have done, but innocent children ARE NOT Hamas!

We don't know how children are dying and as horrific as it is Hamas are deliberately using civilians as human shields to save their own lily livered skins. Surely you are not suggesting that the Israelis are deliberately killing civilians because that would be rediculous, Israel has done everything in it's power to ensure the safety of the Palestinians but the blame lies with the sadistic killers called Hamas. This is a means to end and hopefully will bring a modicum of peace to the area, for a while at least.

[Wobblybob]

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't need to go on here to know what is going on, and I don't need to read any news media linked to western governments to know they are biased.

 

BTW, you made the claim so it's up to you to prove it or I can make my own conclusions as to the truth.

And you don't have the ability to think outside the box!

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I did, it was terrible. However, even Biden lied about it, so was not sure what to believe by the Israeli propagandists.

However 50 or so kids is hardly the same as over 4,000. Hardly “precise and targeted operation”

That hasn't been proven, and after so long it's almost certainly made up.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/unverified-allegations-beheaded-babies-israel-hamas-war-inflame-social-rcna119902

A series of shocking reports have spread horrific claims of baby beheadings by Hamas militants across social and mainstream media in recent days, adding a particularly incendiary element to an already violent and bitter war. But the reports are still unconfirmed, and in some cases have been retracted. 

 

 

Biden lied.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/unverified-allegations-beheaded-babies-israel-hamas-war-inflame-social-rcna119902

The most high-profile claim came Wednesday night when President Joe Biden said that he had seen photographic evidence of terrorists beheading children. The White House later clarified that Biden was referring to news reports about beheadings, which have not included or referred to photographic evidence.

[coolcarer]

16 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't need to go on here to know what is going on, and I don't need to read any news media linked to western governments to know they are biased.

 

BTW, you made the claim so it's up to you to prove it or I can make my own conclusions as to the truth.

Cool carry on thinking it’s only Israel that has evidence of the underground command center at the hospital. ignorance is bliss. You want a link, sure. here is a link to the main Israel Hamas war topic, last couple of pages. To view your precious Al Jazeera doing as I said. Don’t forget  to take your ignore  block off as otherwise you propbaly won’t see them, I cannot help you there…………….lol

 

https://aseannow.com/forum/432-the-war-in-israel/page/2/

[thaibeachlovers]

15 minutes ago, Patong2 said:

 

6000 bombs eh?

Well it certainly isn't Genocide with only 12,000 dead is it?

Genocide is bombing all the hospital compounds full of people.

 

We don't know what the israelis really plan for "after", so let's wait and see on that.

 

BTW, 6,000 bombs was weeks ago and they've dropped lots more than that since, but I haven't seen a published number.

[Wobblybob]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

If YOU were a Palestinian under illegal occupation and daily humiliation, would YOU accept it, or want to fight back any way YOU could?

No the answer is to get rid of their Terrorists and they will live a happy life, they cannot go through life planning the annihilation of the Israel population, there must come a time when these people must be deprogrammed.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, coolcarer said:

Cool carry on thinking it’s only Israel that has evidence of the underground command center at the hospital. ignorance is bliss. You want a link, sure. here is a link to the main Israel Hamas war topic, last couple of pages. To view your precious Al Jazeera doing as I said. Don’t forget  to take your ignore  block off as otherwise you propbaly won’t see them, I cannot help you there…………….lol

Ignore only applies to individual posters. It wouldn't stop me seeing a link you posted, but you didn't post a link, did you?

[2baht]

8 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

We don't know how children are dying and as horrific as it is Hamas are deliberately using civilians as human shields to save their own lily livered skins. Surely you are not suggesting that the Israelis are deliberately killing civilians because that would be rediculous, Israel has done everything in it's power to ensure the safety of the Palestinians but the blame lies with the sadistic killers called Hamas. This is a means to end and hopefully will bring a modicum of peace to the area, for a while at least.

Ok, let's dismiss the 14000 dead Palestinians, Israel will not be satisfied till every last Palestinian is dead, I think it's called genocide!

[coolcarer]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Ignore only applies to individual posters. It wouldn't stop me seeing a link you posted, but you didn't post a link, did you?

I edited and added the link to the topic. Now read my post again. You have to location for the vids. If you want to see them up to you. Your choice. I am doing no more just because you have posters on ignore this is your prob.me, not mine. Ignorance is really bliss right?…………right?…………….lol

[Wobblybob]

1 minute ago, 2baht said:

Ok, let's dismiss the 14000 dead Palestinians, Israel will not be satisfied till every last Palestinian is dead, I think it's called genocide!

I think you have lost the plot and need to listen why people are dying, which part of the Terrorists are using civilians as human shields don't you understand. 

[2baht]

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

I think you have lost the plot and need to listen why people are dying, which part of the Terrorists are using civilians as human shields don't you understand. 

Which part of 75 years of oppression don't YOU understand, Wobbly?

[2baht]

48 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Hamas started this war, can you not see that. No mention of the Palestinian killers so what can we conclude from that! Nobody would be getting killed on either side but for the evil terrorists. 

How did Hamas even get into southern Israel, where were the IDF on the 7th Oct???

[NickyLouie]

 

 

 

[Hanaguma]

30 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That hasn't been proven, and after so long it's almost certainly made up.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/unverified-allegations-beheaded-babies-israel-hamas-war-inflame-social-rcna119902

A series of shocking reports have spread horrific claims of baby beheadings by Hamas militants across social and mainstream media in recent days, adding a particularly incendiary element to an already violent and bitter war. But the reports are still unconfirmed, and in some cases have been retracted. 

 

 

Biden lied.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/unverified-allegations-beheaded-babies-israel-hamas-war-inflame-social-rcna119902

The most high-profile claim came Wednesday night when President Joe Biden said that he had seen photographic evidence of terrorists beheading children. The White House later clarified that Biden was referring to news reports about beheadings, which have not included or referred to photographic evidence.

I get it. It was OK for Hamas to torture and murder babies, as long as they didn't behead them.  Gotcha. 

 

Beheading was only for adults. Like the Thai farm worker who was beheaded while still alive. Or the German girl, Shani Louk- they waited until she was dead before they beheaded her.  Obviously Hamas has standards. 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, 2baht said:

How did Hamas even get into southern Israel, where were the IDF on the 7th Oct???

 

   They used paragliders to fly over the border fence  , the IDF got overwhelmed and out numbered in the surprise attack 

[2baht]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They used paragliders to fly over the border fence  , the IDF got overwhelmed and out numbered in the surprise attack 

Imagine if they had American supplied Appache attack helicopters and FA 18's!

[Nick Carter icp]

35 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That hasn't been proven, and after so long it's almost certainly made up.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/unverified-allegations-beheaded-babies-israel-hamas-war-inflame-social-rcna119902

A series of shocking reports have spread horrific claims of baby beheadings by Hamas militants across social and mainstream media in recent days, adding a particularly incendiary element to an already violent and bitter war. But the reports are still unconfirmed, and in some cases have been retracted. 

 

 

Biden lied.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/unverified-allegations-beheaded-babies-israel-hamas-war-inflame-social-rcna119902

The most high-profile claim came Wednesday night when President Joe Biden said that he had seen photographic evidence of terrorists beheading children. The White House later clarified that Biden was referring to news reports about beheadings, which have not included or referred to photographic evidence.

 

   Israel have kept all their video footage and photos private 

Israel doesn't use their dead Children to parade around the streets like some kind of trophy 

[billd766]

3 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Perhaps it is preferable to have IDF troops on the ground searching for and destroying the Hamas infrastructure rather than bombing the Hospital (it does rather seem to be remarkably undamaged doesn't it). With troops present, fuel, electricity, food and medical supplies can be brought in, without worrying about them being diverted to be used for other needs.

 

Of course, if the IDF has identified a major ( perhaps the main) Hamas command centre under the biggest hospital in Gaza, well that might explain our little fat Portuguese socialist friends squealing! 

That of course applies only if you believe the truth and honesty provided by the IDF and the Israeli government.

 

IMHO, I don't believe anything that comes from that source and neither do I believe anything that comes from Hamas sources either.

 

I would far rather believe verified news from an independent source.

 

That is hard to find, as either one side or the other, is preventing independent news outlets from investigating any reports. I suspect that both sides have things that they would prefer not to be revealed.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

That of course applies only if you believe the truth and honesty provided by the IDF and the Israeli government.

 

IMHO, I don't believe anything that comes from that source and neither do I believe anything that comes from Hamas sources either.

 

I would far rather believe verified news from an independent source.

 

That is hard to find, as either one side or the other, is preventing independent news outlets from investigating any reports. I suspect that both sides have things that they would prefer not to be revealed.

The US has also independently confirmed there is a Hamas command center under the hospital and at other hospitals, its not only the IDF

[billd766]

1 hour ago, NickyLouie said:

 

Maybe I have ?

 

I suspect the closest that you will ever get, is being an anonymous keyboard warrior on a small English language forum in Thailand.

 

Unless you are a barstool user and ex SAS or USN seals in Pattaya