Republican George Santos expelled from Congress in bipartisan vote

[ballpoint]

7 hours ago, gargamon said:

Can he still get onto the presidential race? Santos would be a much better candidate than Trump. 

I think you're confusing him with Ron DeSantis.

[scottiejohn]

13 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

I think you're confusing him with Ron DeSantis.

I don't think so as he is not much better than Trump and that is saying something!

 

[billd766]

8 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I disagree with this motion.

 

Members should only be expelled after conviction, not indictment. Innocent until proven guilty is a thing.

If it was only the Democrats who voted him out I would probably have agreed with you.

 

However,

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-voted-to-expel-george-santos/#:~:text=The final vote count on,112 voted against doing so.

 

The final vote count on the resolution to expel Santos was 311 to 114, far surpassing the two-thirds majority required under the Constitution to succeed. Among Republicans, 105 members voted to kick him out, and 112 voted against doing so.

 

48.38% of the GOP, his own party, voted to expel him as well.

[billd766]

7 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Too young, he says he is only 27.

Born: July 22, 1988 (age 35 years), Jackson Heights, New York, United States
Party: Republican Party

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Born: July 22, 1988 (age 35 years), Jackson Heights, New York, United States
Party: Republican Party

I was joking. Santos lies about everything.

Edited December 2, 2023 by Danderman123

[billd766]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

In a rare moment I agree with you. If Congress is not bound by the rules it sets for everyone else, they can do anything.

But those are the current rules.

 

If you want to change them you probably can but you will need a large bi-partisan majority to do so, and TBH I don't think that will happen.

[billd766]

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I was joking. Santos lies about everything.

I have no idea, but Santos telling lies would not surprise me.

[Paradise Pete]

9 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I disagree with this motion.

 

Members should only be expelled after conviction, not indictment. Innocent until proven guilty is a thing.

 

Expulsion doesn't require a crime. If 2/3 don't want you there, you're out. Doesn't matter what the reason is.

[gargamon]

2 hours ago, ballpoint said:

I think you're confusing him with Ron DeSantis.

Nope, I got it right. A piece of string or a chunk of rock would be better than Trump. 

[ThailandRyan]

11 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I disagree with this motion.

 

Members should only be expelled after conviction, not indictment. Innocent until proven guilty is a thing.

Please detail in further, he was expelled, sent packing much like impeachment proceedings. There was a full report with all evidence. Should they have awaited ten years as he tried to delay the case for trial like the firmer POTUS is trying to do......let's get real the man is a charlatan and preyed on his donors.

[BusyB]

13 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

He is not quite as qualified as Trump as he only has 23 charges pending against the MEGA's 91(and counting)!

 

He also hasn't told quite as many verifiable lies as the Trump.

[lamyai3]

16 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

My point is that this sets a bad precedent.

He'd have been a very bad precedent. 

[eisfeld]

16 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

In a rare moment I agree with you. If Congress is not bound by the rules it sets for everyone else, they can do anything.

 

Hu? They followed the same rules that apply to every member of Congress. A motion to expel can be brought and has to be voted on, requiring two thirds to pass. That's what happened. They can't do "anything" and they are bound by the rules of Congress.

 

There is no requirement for someone to be criminally convicted to be expelled. The charges against him will be tried independently in court. A supermajority thought he conduct was bad enough to vote him out. Nearly half of his own party agreed! You gotta be a real piece of work to make that happen.

Edited December 2, 2023 by eisfeld

[eisfeld]

8 hours ago, billd766 said:

I have no idea, but Santos telling lies would not surprise me.

 

Santos admitted to fabricating most of his biography. That's why the joke works.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, billd766 said:

I have no idea, but Santos telling lies would not surprise me.

He's a politician, ergo.............................

[thaibeachlovers]

54 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

 

Hu? They followed the same rules that apply to every member of Congress. A motion to expel can be brought and has to be voted on, requiring two thirds to pass. That's what happened. They can't do "anything" and they are bound by the rules of Congress.

 

There is no requirement for someone to be criminally convicted to be expelled. The charges against him will be tried independently in court. A supermajority thought he conduct was bad enough to vote him out. Nearly half of his own party agreed! You gotta be a real piece of work to make that happen.

LOL, you missed who "everyone else" applies to.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, lamyai3 said:

He'd have been a very bad precedent. 

He wasn't a candidate for precedent.

[herfiehandbag]

Any shreds of credibility he may have had rather went west when he described himself as the " Mary Magdalene" of the Republican Party in a media interview the other day!😃

[sirineou]

14 hours ago, Tequila makes me happy said:

Where are all the Lefties screaming Gay/Trans Phobia ? Or doesn't he qualify for OUTRAGE  because he is from the GOP ?

Apparently, tequila does not make you only happy!

What are you talking about? He was not expelled for his sexual preference. He was expelled because of his outrageous behaviorally unbecoming of the office.  

[Skipalongcassidy]

Yet Menendez  is still there... go figure.

[sirineou]

Just now, Skipalongcassidy said:

Yet Menendez  is still there... go figure.

They expel the nutjobs. 

If they were to expel because of criminal behaviour, there would be no one left in congress.  

He faces reelection soon and hopefully his constituency will remove him.  

 

[charleskerins]

But commit sedition and you can become Speaker.

[charleskerins]

16 hours ago, gargamon said:

Nope, I got it right. A piece of string or a chunk of rock would be better than Trump. 

Far better

[charleskerins]

5 hours ago, sirineou said:

Apparently, tequila does not make you only happy!

What are you talking about? He was not expelled for his sexual preference. He was expelled because of his outrageous behaviorally unbecoming of the office.  

He doesn't know what he is talking about

[charleskerins]

20 hours ago, Tequila makes me happy said:

Where are all the Lefties screaming Gay/Trans Phobia ? Or doesn't he qualify for OUTRAGE  because he is from the GOP ?

What's a lefty someone who supports Democracy?

[Purdey]

I am guessing, but perhaps the Republican party is sick of its members being caught as criminal liars just before an election. 

Edited December 3, 2023 by Purdey

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I am guessing, but perhaps the Republican party is sick of its members being caught as criminal liars just before an election. 

Looking at their frontrunning presidential candidate I doubt that's the reason.