Noisy neighbours....today's job

[Rampant Rabbit]

Walls are made of AAC blocks in this  condo, they appear to  do nothing for noise so Ive done a bit of modification today.

The last neghbour spent  all night banging his girllfriend.......oh .oh....oh.......oh., urgh,...............urgh.........urgh.........Kamikaze......he was Japanese and sounded like he was  killing her. The new neighbour seems to come in at 1am regularly and has laughing fits with her friend until 3 am..then goes out to work at 8am, beats  me how she only gets 3-4 hours sleep a night. Also by  cunning design her bed backs onto my wall and has built  in drawers which she likes to bang shut.

Mass  kills  noise fibreglass in between also.  After  will be doing built in wardrobes over the wall.....probably wont hear much then.

[JimTripper]

A strong fan can actually mask a lot of noise. I actually sleep better with it running then having it completely quiet.

Edited December 6, 2023 by JimTripper

[OneMoreFarang]

Hopefully your solution solves the problem. Please report after all is done. 

[JensenZ]

That's some serious dedication. Another easier method is sleeping with music playing. It got me through 2 years of construction noise next door. It might take a bit of getting used to, but it can be very effective.

[soi3eddie]

Wow! That is quite an extreme measure to insulate against noise. Should diminish the sound transmission. Hope it works for you as expected. Please keep us updated.

 

[Rampant Rabbit]

8 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

Wow! That is quite an extreme measure to insulate against noise. Should diminish the sound transmission. Hope it works for you as expected. Please keep us updated.

 

This is a  corner  room, it had  two windows but  about 5  years after moving in they built  around us and now the one window  looks directly onto a  hotel where their  guests hang around at night having loud conversations on the steps into the place and even though Im on the top floor (8) the sound travels up easily. Ive overboarded the one window and insulated inside that with polystyrene sheet, theres  plenty of light with just the one window and now the view has gone its not  needed.

[Rampant Rabbit]

This was the old  view and window  now overboarded  mand insulated too

[soi3eddie]

Walked back up the local Soi in Bangkok an hour ago. A number of quite new replacement houses (no shortage of cash rather evident). Lovely floor to ceiling windows, none of them double glazed. Think of the noise reduction and lower cooling costs that that could be enjoyed by double glazing. The Thais just don't get it. A small extra amount upfront will lead to better enjoyment and lower costs for the life of the property. A friend built an A-Frame raised cabin in a southern province a few years ago, he stipulated high ceilings and cavity walls with insulation and a long overhang roof - locals and builder thought he was nuts spending the extra money. Result? No need for air conditioning. Maybe one-day...

 

[Rampant Rabbit]

21 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

Walked back up the local Soi in Bangkok an hour ago. A number of quite new replacement houses (no shortage of cash rather evident). Lovely floor to ceiling windows, none of them double glazed. Think of the noise reduction and lower cooling costs that that could be enjoyed by double glazing. The Thais just don't get it. A small extra amount upfront will lead to better enjoyment and lower costs for the life of the property. A friend built an A-Frame raised cabin in a southern province a few years ago, he stipulated high ceilings and cavity walls with insulation and a long overhang roof - locals and builder thought he was nuts spending the extra money. Result? No need for air conditioning. Maybe one-day...

 

Ive  just moved into a  new  condo ( well built 2012) on Sukhumvit  road, Phrakanong, High floor  19 but the bedroom sliding balcony window may as  well be absent for all the good it does.

Ive alreay ordered a new frame  8 foot  tall by 12 foot  wide with double  glazed units and one casement opening internally door as the sliding thing thats there now is  useless, you can put your hand thru where the doors  overlap each other.

The old room Im doing up to rent out, Thats the noisier one in the OP, should be quiet enough when Im done and it doesnt cost much to do as I do it all myself, blocks are cheap 6 baht.

[BobBKK]

49 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

This was the old  view and window  now overboarded  mand insulated too

How did you insulate the windows?  triple glazed?  (YES I have a noisy neighbour problem too). Where did you buy the noise insulation for your double walls?  (thanks in advance)

[NickyLouie]

2 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Walls are made of AAC blocks in this  condo, they appear to  do nothing for noise so Ive done a bit of modification today.

The last neghbour spent  all night banging his girllfriend.......oh .oh....oh.......oh., urgh,...............urgh.........urgh.........Kamikaze......he was Japanese and sounded like he was  killing her. The new neighbour seems to come in at 1am regularly and has laughing fits with her friend until 3 am..then goes out to work at 8am, beats  me how she only gets 3-4 hours sleep a night. Also by  cunning design her bed backs onto my wall and has built  in drawers which she likes to bang shut.

Mass  kills  noise fibreglass in between also.  After  will be doing built in wardrobes over the wall.....probably wont hear much then.

 

Hope you got a below market price for that hellhole of a unit.

How much space did you loose building out that cinderblock wall?

[Rampant Rabbit]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

How did you insulate the windows?  triple glazed?  (YES I have a noisy neighbour problem too). Where did you buy the noise insulation for your double walls?  (thanks in advance)

I didnt trtiple  glaze the window I over boarded it with 12mm plasterboard and polystyrene foam insulation behind it. The other isnulation is the stuff  used in roof  spaces available at homepro thai watsadu global house etc in rolls this is 75mm thick size

[Rampant Rabbit]

1 hour ago, NickyLouie said:

 

Hope you got a below market price for that hellhole of a unit.

How much space did you loose building out that cinderblock wall?

Huh, it isnt a hell  hole of a unit it does have wafer thin walls but only one neighbour as Im on the top  floor  corner  unit.  Yes i got a  good  price , 12  years  ago a 25% discount off the normal price at thats time . They sell for 3.6  million now the building is  well maintained and was painted externally/internally 18  months  ago.

I paid 1.9m, its 47m2, cinderblocks are 75mm thick and behind that there is  another 50mm air  gap filled with fibreglass, if you look you can see one of the building  support  columns which Ive built out to. That bedroom is quite large already, you wont miss 125mm of space.

Close to tesco On Nut. 180m to bts

Edited December 6, 2023 by Rampant Rabbit

[Lacessit]

I would suggest you record the sounds your new neighbor is making at those hours, then take the recording to condo management. Condos have rules about unnecessary and untimely noise.

With the old neighbor, I would have recorded the sounds of their coitus, then played them back at maximum volume.

[proton]

I had that done when the house was being built only did downstairs, double wall with that crappy brick. Made very little difference to upstairs with the one course. 

[Rampant Rabbit]

2 minutes ago, proton said:

I had that done when the house was being built only did downstairs, double wall with that crappy brick. Made very little difference to upstairs with the one course. 

Its not crappy brick its concrete block

[proton]

Just now, Rampant Rabbit said:

Its not crappy brick its concrete block

looks like crappy cinder block

[Rampant Rabbit]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I would suggest you record the sounds your new neighbor is making at those hours, then take the recording to condo management. Condos have rules about unnecessary and untimely noise.

With the old neighbor, I would have recorded the sounds of their coitus, then played them back at maximum volume.

The problem isnt the negihbour its the crappy aac block walls, wouldnt say they were overly  noisy its  just you can hear everything though the wall

[Rampant Rabbit]

Just now, proton said:

looks like crappy cinder block

you said brick as in thai red brick

[Rampant Rabbit]

Ah I see why i stopped  posting on Thai Visa its because most posters are utter  <deleted> <deleted>, no change after a year off I see ta ta. 

[JensenZ]

23 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Ah I see why i stopped  posting on Thai Visa its because most posters are utter  <deleted> <deleted>, no change after a year off I see ta ta. 

You're right about many posters being here just to bicker and insult, but some of us are very interested in the work you are doing to soundproof your condo. It is currently one of the more interesting threads on here. Put the annoying members on ignore and keep us posted.

[JeffersLos]

Is a documented self immurement a first for Asean Now? 

[it is what it is]

 

many years ago i was in a band, my mate had a neighbour with a dog that barked all day when left alone. we got fed up so recorded the noise of the dog barking. at night, once the owner had returned, we rigged up a PA and played the recording back at him. two days later problem solved.

 

ok, back to the present. the experiences above show the need to research where you're going to live, any country can have noisy neighbors bit it's more difficult to deal with when you're the outsider. make sure you know the building your moving into, the type of people there, the way its managed.

 

my building has a good mix of middle class thai and foreign UN workers, it's well managed. anyone making a noise or being anti-social gets one warning and after that they're out. it's a wonderfully calm, considerate, friendly and quiet place to live, right in the middle of bangkok.

[NickyLouie]

22 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

many years ago i was in a band, my mate had a neighbour with a dog that barked all day when left alone. we got fed up so recorded the noise of the dog barking. at night, once the owner had returned, we rigged up a PA and played the recording back at him. two days later problem solved.

 

ok, back to the present. the experiences above show the need to research where you're going to live, any country can have noisy neighbors bit it's more difficult to deal with when you're the outsider. make sure you know the building your moving into, the type of people there, the way its managed.

 

my building has a good mix of middle class thai and foreign UN workers, it's well managed. anyone making a noise or being anti-social gets one warning and after that they're out. it's a wonderfully calm, considerate, friendly and quiet place to live, right in the middle of bangkok.

 

Maybe also check the quality of the common wall construction. 

[JimTripper]

8 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Huh, it isnt a hell  hole of a unit it does have wafer thin walls but only one neighbour as Im on the top  floor  corner  unit.  Yes i got a  good  price , 12  years  ago a 25% discount off the normal price at thats time . They sell for 3.6  million now the building is  well maintained and was painted externally/internally 18  months  ago.

I paid 1.9m, its 47m2, cinderblocks are 75mm thick and behind that there is  another 50mm air  gap filled with fibreglass, if you look you can see one of the building  support  columns which Ive built out to. That bedroom is quite large already, you wont miss 125mm of space.

Close to tesco On Nut. 180m to bts

Not anymore... Don't buy in thailand.

[Ben Zioner]

Funny that no one said OP should have use Q-Com.. And asked a professional to built it [No cement]...

[JimTripper]

Why don't you get quality recording studio insulation and put that up instead of building that crazy wall?

 

You can douple or triple them up, they have ones that are interlockable/stackable.

 

When you sell up you can just take it down and prospective buyers don't know about the problem. You're turning your unit into a construction zone for no reason. I don't think that cinder block type cement is really going to block sound that well, it's more meant to be a barrier.

 

Edited December 7, 2023 by JimTripper

[BenStark]

Cinder blocks with fibreglass wool will do nothing for noise insulation, it's a waste of space and money.

 

You should have done some reading on what materials are used for noise insulation, and then just put it behind a plasterboard wall.

 

I believe ready made plasterboards with insulation attached are available

[petermik]

13 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

The problem isnt the negihbour its the crappy aac block walls, wouldnt say they were overly  noisy its  just you can hear everything though the wall

Suggest you remove your ear from the wall and relax in a chair......

[Seppius]

19 hours ago, JimTripper said:

A strong fan can actually mask a lot of noise. I actually sleep better with it running then having it completely quiet.

Yes, white noise works for me as well