Blow to Biden as poll shows Trump in lead for 2024 presidential election

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/13/2024 at 10:24 PM, Danderman123 said:

You are really responding to a post containing links by complaining it has no links?

 

 

I'm sure you knew that I was referring to the part comparing Trump to Joseph Goebbels, and how many times have I had to ask you to post links?

 

But wait, you might not actually have understood that. My apologies, I'll have to remember to make it simpler in future.

[candide]

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

16. Held Vladimir Putin accountable for his invasion of Ukraine by imposing stiff economic sanctions.

 

LOL. Hasn't "won" the war though, has he?

Putin? That's right!

[Skipalongcassidy]

11 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

@illisdean likes to make unfounded accusations. Facts don't seem relevant to him.

 

The U.S. Is Reaping the Benefits of Low Unemployment

 

To the point that he doesn't even see data that conflicts with his world view. It's called "cognitive dissonance".

Voters doubt Biden economy, citing high grocery prices and interest rates: 'We still can't afford things"... more jobs is a result of people having to work 2 or 3 jobs to just stay above water... not new job creation

[impulse]

It just keeps getting better and better for ol' Joe...  Wasn't it a Dem strategist that said "It's the economy, stupid"?  Carville, if memory serves.

 

 

 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tops-opponents-biden-hits-new-low-approval/story?id=106335244

Edited January 15 by impulse

[illisdean]

Nobody wants to be associated with Biden's democratic party and who can blame them, nobody wants the Biden loser label. Read the polls, there are many reasons Biden continues to poll in the toilet and people gravitate away from democrat party affiliation. MAGA is the place voters want to be. Don't believe it, but refer to the polls for answers and the reality you are afraid to confront and accept. 

 

A Gallup poll released on Friday reveals that a record low percentage of Americans who identify as Democrats in 2023 hit a record low, when independent 'leaners' are excluded.

 

Gallup Poll JAN/2024

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, illisdean said:

Nobody wants to be associated with Biden's democratic party and who can blame them, nobody wants the Biden loser label. Read the polls, there are many reasons Biden continues to poll in the toilet and people gravitate away from democrat party affiliation. MAGA is the place voters want to be. Don't believe it, but refer to the polls for answers and the reality you are afraid to confront and accept. 

 

A Gallup poll released on Friday reveals that a record low percentage of Americans who identify as Democrats in 2023 hit a record low, when independent 'leaners' are excluded.

 

Gallup Poll JAN/2024

 

 

 

Polls are one thing, donating your own dollars something different:

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4394598-biden-campaign-raises-1m-online-in-24-hours-after-jan-6-speech/amp/

 

https://apnews.com/article/biden-democrats-election-2024-campaign-fundraising-trump-6d16c590a1f1fed055b6544e36c03b9a

[candide]

8 hours ago, illisdean said:

Nobody wants to be associated with Biden's democratic party and who can blame them, nobody wants the  Biden loser label. Read the polls, there are many reasons Biden continues to poll in the toilet and people gravitate away from democrat party affiliation. MAGA is the place voters want to be. Don't believe it, but refer to the polls for answers and the reality you are afraid to confront and accept. 

 

A Gallup poll released on Friday reveals that a record low percentage of Americans who identify as Democrats in 2023 hit a record low, when independent 'leaners' are excluded.

 

Gallup Poll JAN/2024

 

 

 

The % of Democrats is not as low as the % of Republicans.....

[illisdean]

 

ABC / WAPO Poll Synopsis

 

Biden continues to deliver and break records, again, for all the wrong reasons except only to highlight/demonstrate his profound & buffoon-ish affinity for failure! Record failures for the worst President in history. There cannot be a more humiliating legacy for anyone in politics EVER. The ongoing Biden family corruption scandal and pending impeachment inquiry will only add more embarrassing entries into the Biden toilet level legacy.  Maybe by comparing Trump to Hitler and gaslighting about democracy is causing all this economic disparity and calamity for voters?

 

6/10-Biden accomplishes little

 

LOL, Biden, there is a reasons Biden polls so low, lower than any presidential incumbent and he can blame no one except himself. Such a failure. Who would / could disagree or argue factually otherwise at this point!

 

Question: are you surprised at all by corrupt Biden’s impressive record of FAILURES, one after the other in rapid succession and predictable fashion?

LOL

 

Question: During his time in office, would you say Biden has accomplished “not very much”?

 

“Four in 10 Americans say they’ve gotten worse off financially since Joe Biden took office, the most in ABC News/Washington Post polls dating back 37 years. Political fallout includes poor performance ratings for Biden and a tight hypothetical Biden/Trump rematch next year.”

 

ABCNews?WAPO Polls

 

https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1228a2Bidenand2024.pdf

 

 

 

 

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On 1/16/2024 at 3:47 PM, illisdean said:

 

 

If Biden is such an obvious and blatant disaster, what does it say about Trump that, according to the RCP polling average, he's just 1.1 point ahead of Biden.

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

[Danderman123]

On 1/14/2024 at 7:05 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm sure you knew that I was referring to the part comparing Trump to Joseph Goebbels, and how many times have I had to ask you to post links?

 

But wait, you might not actually have understood that. My apologies, I'll have to remember to make it simpler in future.

I compare Trump to Joseph Goebbels because both a proponents of the Big Lie. Trump repeats the same lies over and over, so you believe them.

 

Do you disagree?

[Danderman123]

23 minutes ago, placeholder said:

If Biden is such an obvious and blatant disaster, what does it say about Trump that, according to the RCP polling average, he's just 1.1 point ahead of Biden.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Because Trump is a weak candidate.

 

Biden will rise in the polls later this year. The only bump up that Trump will get is when Stormy Daniels testifies, and Trump's cult followers will consider it a miracle that she slept with him.

[thaibeachlovers]

59 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I compare Trump to Joseph Goebbels because both a proponents of the Big Lie. Trump repeats the same lies over and over, so you believe them.

 

Do you disagree?

I'm not going to respond to baiting posts that bring in "whataboutism" from 1930s Germany.

[Morch]

17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm not going to respond to baiting posts that bring in "whataboutism" from 1930s Germany.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Kept for reference.

Got a hunch it will come in handy on other topics, other issues.

[simple1]

I find it amazing Americans will vote for a convicted rapist, even though it was a Civil Court conviction; i.e. Trump.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

 

it is crystal clear from his previous Presidency and behaviour after he lost re-election, Trump is unfit to represent the Office of the President of the USA. The Constitution is way past due for some Amendments to keep people such as Trump from being nominated as President.

 

[Jingthing]

I find polls meaningless at this point.

More so than ever before at this early stage.

Why?

It's true most democrats would prefer a younger candidate than Biden but that doesn't in any way mean they will vote for Trump when it is Biden.

Yes, the mostly likely contest now by far for better or worse probably worse is Trump vs. Biden.

But there are huge contingencies.

Trump will probably be convicted of a felony before the election. He may even be in prison.

A president that can't even vote?

Unacceptable even to a large percentage of republicans.

Either one may have a health crisis or worse before the election changing everything.

Again, polls now in this race are meaningless.

Edited January 17 by Jingthing

[bultaco44]

On 1/16/2024 at 10:18 AM, Danderman123 said:

I compare Trump to Joseph Goebbels because both a proponents of the Big Lie. Trump repeats the same lies over and over, so you believe them.

 

Do you disagree?

All politicians lie.

 

Trump is sort of a politician and so is Biden

 

Do you disagree

[bultaco44]

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I find polls meaningless at this point.

Media loves them and the parties need them.

 

Doesn't matter much what you and I "find".

[Danderman123]

13 minutes ago, bultaco44 said:

All politicians lie.

 

Trump is sort of a politician and so is Biden

 

Do you disagree

You are correct. However, there is a difference in the way that politicians lie.

 

The Dems are usually lawyers, and lawyers cannot lie in court, instead, they lie by omission - what they say is factually true, but they leave out contradictory information. Classic prosecutor technique.

 

Trump started off with gaslighting, telling crazy lies, but then he adopted the Goebbels technique of repeating the same lie over and over.

 

Can you tell when Trump is lying, or are you happily being gaslighted?

[Danderman123]

For you Trump fluffers who live and die by polls:

 

Trump, Haley tied in New Hampshire poll

 

This late poll will probably come within 5% of the final result, unless there is a late development.

[bultaco44]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Can you tell when Trump is lying, or are you happily being gaslighted?

I think I just told you, but shall happily repeat it.

 

He lies all the time

They all do, only: The Trump lies are often entertaining

 

[bultaco44]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The Dems are usually lawyers, and lawyers cannot lie in court, instead, they lie by omission - what they say is factually true, but they leave out contradictory information. Classic prosecutor technique.

The truth, the whole thruth.............................................................

 

No politicians could function under that.

 

It's a swamp, I tell you !

 

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, bultaco44 said:

I think I just told you, but shall happily repeat it.

 

He lies all the time

They all do, only: The Trump lies are often entertaining

 

Say, you must be new to this.

[bultaco44]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Say, you must be new to this.

Nah, I heard my share of lies through a long life.

 

Or wasn't that what you meant ?

 

[Walker88]

On 1/15/2024 at 2:52 AM, illisdean said:

Nobody wants to be associated with Biden's democratic party and who can blame them, nobody wants the Biden loser label. Read the polls, there are many reasons Biden continues to poll in the toilet and people gravitate away from democrat party affiliation. MAGA is the place voters want to be. Don't believe it, but refer to the polls for answers and the reality you are afraid to confront and accept. 

 

A Gallup poll released on Friday reveals that a record low percentage of Americans who identify as Democrats in 2023 hit a record low, when independent 'leaners' are excluded.

 

Gallup Poll JAN/2024

 

 

 

Polls have already turned around. It's now Biden 49% and the traitor 46%.

 

After a couple of convictions, and as trump loses it more and more and his obvious insanity is even evident to most trumpers, it's only going to get worse for the fat guy.

 

If there are any areas of the US still suffering from drought, perhaps cult members could move there in droves, as their maga tears would halt the drought conditions.

 

Perhaps when trump is rotting in Leavenworth, you will do a good deed and bring him some cheeseburgers and a bucket or two of KFC.

 

 

[Danderman123]

11 minutes ago, bultaco44 said:

Nah, I heard my share of lies through a long life.

 

Or wasn't that what you meant ?

 

What's your opinion of people who lie a lot?

[Walker88]

One third of Iowa Republican voters said that if trump is convicted, he would be unqualified to be President and they would not vote for him.

 

trump will be convicted.

 

If he loses a third of the 40% who register as Republicans, he has zero chance of winning.

 

When the convention comes, Republicans would be wise to dump trump. He will not win, and he will also hurt down ballot candidates, as he did in 2018, 2020 and 2022.

 

2024 is likely to see Dems take the White House, Senate and House.

[Walker88]

On 12/10/2023 at 11:21 PM, RichardColeman said:

Go Trump !!!

 

If anyone thinks that sleepy old dementia Joe will be allowed by his handlers to debate Trump in live debates next year (assuming he can find the stage) they are really living in cloud cuckoo land.

 

Expect either Joe to be unable to debate due to returning 'covid' issues or say he will not debate with a 'criminal'. I really get the feeling Biden's handlers are hoping the new Chinese disease shuts down everything again so he can go hide in the bunker again 

 

 

 

 

The logistics of the debates will be difficult, what with setting up cameras in Leavenworth so trump can participate.

 

Silly for trump to even play, however, as he has no debates points, only slogans and lies.

 

His supporters, however, not being the brightest of lights, think slogans and lies are good enough. maga...lock her up....and his "plans" like "We're going to put together a healthcare plan you won't believe. So good. So good it's going to be", and "we'll get rid of that Obamacare" (not knowing that new enrollment in Obamacare in 2023 was 20 million people, as it's quite popular).

 

Of course this time trump cannot bark about his "great infrastructure plan, which we'll announce during Infrastructure Weak (sic)". trump's Infrastructure Week never came, and Biden got a bipartisan infrastructure Bill passed already.

 

Admittedly trump will likely retain the Incel vote, the QAnons, the fascists, White Supremacists, those on Social Security Disability Insurance, the poorly educated, the willfully ignorant, and society's losers and forlorn, but that won't be enough to win.

[bultaco44]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Perhaps when trump is rotting in Leavenworth, you will do a good deed and bring him some cheeseburgers and a bucket or two of KFC.

US presidents don't go to jail.

I want to see it before believing it

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

What's your opinion of people who lie a lot?

Same as yours ?

Not to be trusted.  That was an easy one

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

You have to remember trump owns the Incel demographic. For them, any sex---even rape---is "manly".

 

Since trumpers are mostly Incels and can never be an actual serial philanderer like their bloated messiah, their idea of philandering is using the other hand.

Holy Mackarel !

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

2024 is likely to see Dems take the White House, Senate and House.

I'll get my popcorn

[Danderman123]

5 minutes ago, bultaco44 said:

Not to be trusted.  That was an easy one

 

Do you think Trump lies a lot?

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, simple1 said:

The Constitution is way past due for some Amendments to keep people such as Trump from being nominated as President.

So, what are you waiting for- go change it!