Former Speaker Ryan: ‘Trump’s not a conservative, he’s an authoritarian narcissist’

[charleskerins]

On 12/17/2023 at 6:55 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

You think you have an actual democracy in the US? LOL. I can't think of any western country that has actual democracy, though Switzerland comes the closest.

I know we have a Representative Democracy in the United States ,maybe you should think smarter. 555    Maybe you need a refresher on the types of Democracy. "actual"   Methinks he means Direct.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, charleskerins said:

Can you ?   it would exclude the orange traitor    

I'm fine if Trump is not the next POTUS as long as it's not Biden, Harris or Cheney.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, charleskerins said:

I know we have a Representative Democracy in the United States ,maybe you should think smarter. 555    Maybe you need a refresher on the types of Democracy. "actual"   Methinks he means Direct.

True democracy is where the citizens get to have a say in policy. When was the last time your government invited your opinion once they had the keys to the mint in their pocket?

Calling a country democratic is meaningless when North Korea can be called Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

[charleskerins]

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

True democracy is where the citizens get to have a say in policy. When was the last time your government invited your opinion once they had the keys to the mint in their pocket?

Calling a country democratic is meaningless when North Korea can be called Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

My US Rep asks my opinion monthly and I'm invited to her town halls.Our concerns are discussed in an open forum.Every two years we have the opportunity to vote her in or out of office. So the last time was last week.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, charleskerins said:

My US Rep asks my opinion monthly and I'm invited to her town halls.Our concerns are discussed in an open forum.Every two years we have the opportunity to vote her in or out of office. So the last time was last week.

You are lucky then. I've never been asked for a contribution by the <deleted>s that run the countries I've lived in.

 

Does that apply with every Rep in the entire USA? If so I might have to change my mind about the US political system.

[Morch]

53 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

True democracy is where the citizens get to have a say in policy. When was the last time your government invited your opinion once they had the keys to the mint in their pocket?

Calling a country democratic is meaningless when North Korea can be called Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Is there any country you see as closer to your ideal democracy? Or is this just yet another pointless rant?

[BusyB]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Link required for that.

 

You're kidding ...

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

True democracy is where the citizens get to have a say in policy. When was the last time your government invited your opinion once they had the keys to the mint in their pocket?

Calling a country democratic is meaningless when North Korea can be called Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

 

   In the U.K , we can speak to out local politician about issues and they can bring that topic up in Parliament debates and laws can be changed 

[scottiejohn]

41 minutes ago, Morch said:

Calling a country democratic is meaningless when North Korea can be called Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Countries with "Democratic" in their name!

People’s Democratic Republic of Algeria, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste, Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka!

How many of them are democratic in the way you say "the citizens get to have a say in policy"?

The giveaway is that if the country has democratic in it then by definition it is probably not democratic!

[Georgealbert]

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[Morch]

59 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Countries with "Democratic" in their name!

People’s Democratic Republic of Algeria, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste, Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka!

How many of them are democratic in the way you say "the citizens get to have a say in policy"?

The giveaway is that if the country has democratic in it then by definition it is probably not democratic!

 

Yeah, I didn't say that, though....you got you quotes mixed.

[charleskerins]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You are lucky then. I've never been asked for a contribution by the <deleted>s that run the countries I've lived in.

 

Does that apply with every Rep in the entire USA? If so I might have to change my mind about the US political system.

Most probably reach out on a regular basis to their constituents.   I had  a passport issue years ago and my Rep solved it very quickly.  You can call/email  your rep and someone from their office gets back  pretty quickly.  The people have the power to change but many don't vote  .  The rich have an unequal say and influence   Citizens United. 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, BusyB said:

 

You're kidding ...

No. You made a claim that was not stated as an opinion, so the forum rule applies. No link and it's not true.

 

Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, charleskerins said:

Most probably reach out on a regular basis to their constituents.   I had  a passport issue years ago and my Rep solved it very quickly.  You can call/email  your rep and someone from their office gets back  pretty quickly.  The people have the power to change but many don't vote  .  The rich have an unequal say and influence   Citizens United. 

 

You are fortunate then.

The rich always have an unequal say, IMO.

[BusyB]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No. You made a claim that was not stated as an opinion, so the forum rule applies. No link and it's not true.

 

Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

 

It's open public record, go waste someone else's time.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, BusyB said:

 

It's open public record, go waste someone else's time.

So it's not true then. I thought so.

[charleskerins]

DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA

Trump disqualified from Colorado’s 2024 primary ballot by state Supreme Court

[AgMech Cowboy]

And Ryan was a loser who couldn't even get a revision in the health care law to improve the affordable health care act.

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On 12/20/2023 at 9:24 PM, AgMech Cowboy said:

And Ryan was a loser who couldn't even get a revision in the health care law to improve the affordable health care act.

Improve? That Republican bill was a fiasco.

Paul Ryan Failed Because His Bill Was a Dumpster Fire

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/paul-ryan-failed-because-his-bill-was-a-dumpster-fire-214952/

[ozimoron]

Why Trump's Hitler rhetoric is working among his base.