GOP delivers death blow to bipartisan border bill

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The effort to pass a bipartisan border bill in the Senate came to an abrupt halt on Tuesday as Republicans withdrew their support, effectively delaying any resolution until after the November elections and sparking frustration among Democrats.

 

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer's plan to bring the $118 billion supplemental bill to the floor on Wednesday was derailed after more than half of Senate Republicans declared their opposition, rendering the bill's passage unlikely. The collapse of the proposal, crafted by Sens. James Lankford (R-Okla.), Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), and Kyrsten Sinema (I-Ariz.), occurred less than 48 hours after its unveiling, following months of negotiation.

 

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell attributed the demise of the bill to the lack of prospects for enacting meaningful legislation, criticizing the process and provisions related to migrants entering the country. Republicans' swift condemnation of the bill, coupled with their reluctance to move forward, incited frustration among Democrats.

 

Democrats accused Republicans of reneging on their commitments and questioned their credibility, especially after initially endorsing the border bill's linkage with aid for Ukraine. Republicans' decision to abandon the bill aligned with former President Trump's desire to delay action on border-related issues until after the elections.

 

Despite efforts to salvage the bill, Senate Republicans remained steadfast in their opposition, attributing the failure to various factors, including timing and the Biden administration's slow response. While Republicans refrained from blaming Lankford, who played a pivotal role in negotiations, the senator expressed disappointment and felt betrayed by recent events.

 

The collapse of the border bill signals an uncertain future for other components of the emergency supplemental request, including aid for Ukraine and Israel. Democrats, reeling from the setback, expressed disillusionment with the GOP's relentless opposition and signaled reluctance to engage further in border discussions.

 

Sen. Chris Coons commended Lankford for his efforts and acknowledged his role in securing concessions beneficial for border security. However, he expressed surprise and disappointment at the current impasse, highlighting the need for genuine bipartisan collaboration to address pressing issues effectively.

 

08.02.24

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[Danderman123]

It's such a crisis at the border that the Republicans are delaying action until 2025.

[JonnyF]

As a neutral observer I see this as a smart move by the GOP. 

 

The Dems are trying to lay the ground work for their election campaign after taking no action for years. No reason to allow them to attempt to dupe the public into believing they are taking a tough stance on this. It's a classic bait and switch from the Libs.

[Morch]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

As a neutral observer I see this as a smart move by the GOP. 

 

The Dems are trying to lay the ground work for their election campaign after taking no action for years. No reason to allow them to attempt to dupe the public into believing they are taking a tough stance on this. It's a classic bait and switch from the Libs.

 

 

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As a neutral observer

 

[Hanaguma]

Any bill that simply lets asylum seekers run free in the country should be killed. Put the National Guard on the border. Immediately return anyone crossing at unauthorized areas. House the rest in camps until their cases can be adjudicated. Deport as necessary. No work authorization, no hotel rooms. no credit cards, no cell phones.  Wait in custody until your case is heard.

 

[Tug]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

As a neutral observer I see this as a smart move by the GOP. 

 

The Dems are trying to lay the ground work for their election campaign after taking no action for years. No reason to allow them to attempt to dupe the public into believing they are taking a tough stance on this. It's a classic bait and switch from the Libs.

Hogwash the dems have been trying for years to get the tools nessary to handle the border but the republicans find it two useful a club to bash the dems.this time around it’s clearly obvious it’s done to help trump no more no less and let’s not forget at the behest of trump Ukraine is getting shanked at the same time 

[impulse]

For anyone interested, here's a copy of the bill.

 

https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/emergency_national_security_supplemental_bill_text.pdf

 

The Repubs didn't kill it.   It was DOA.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

It's such a crisis at the border that the Republicans are delaying action until 2025.

It's not a surprise though. Why would the GOP give Biden anything to crow about?

Biden has had 3 years to do something about it but did nothing, and now it's a crisis .

 

Actually, Biden did do something. He actually cancelled the wall, presumably out of spite. Well that came back to bite him. Also he could have put a better person than Harris in charge of fixing the situation, like a competent person.

[impulse]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not a surprise though. Why would the GOP give Biden anything to crow about?

Biden has had 3 years to do something about it but did nothing, and now it's a crisis

 

It's more insidious than that.  The bill would have codified 5000 illegals a day being allowed in.  Dems were planning to declare a victory, slow the numbers down until election day, then ramp up the numbers again the day after.  And had the bill passed, the law would have been on their side to ramp the numbers up.  As it is, Biden's in violation of the law, and the next president can put a stop to it.  Just like Biden could today.

 

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Also he could have put a better person than Harris in charge of fixing the situation, like a competent person.

 

It's going exactly as they planned it.  He put the perfect dupe in to fix it, if he didn't want it fixed.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

8 minutes ago, impulse said:

It's going exactly as they planned it.  He put the perfect dupe in to fix it, if he didn't want it fixed.

I hadn't considered that. You are probably correct.

[JonnyF]

19 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

It's more insidious than that.  The bill would have codified 5000 illegals a day being allowed in.  Dems were planning to declare a victory, slow the numbers down until election day, then ramp up the numbers again the day after.  And had the bill passed, the law would have been on their side to ramp the numbers up.  As it is, Biden's in violation of the law, and the next president can put a stop to it.  Just like Biden could today.

 

 

It's going exactly as they planned it.  He put the perfect dupe in to fix it, if he didn't want it fixed.

 

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

That's what I meant by bait and switch. Bait the voters into thinking they're tough on immigration, then the day after the election make the switch. Classis underhand Lib/Dem tactics. The GOP saw it a mile off and put Biden in the corner with his dunce hat on.

[Chomper Higgot]

21 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

It's going exactly as they planned it.  He put the perfect dupe in to fix it, if he didn't want it fixed.

 

A major bit of MAGA accusation/ confession going on right there.

 

Republicans can’t back fixing the border because screaming about the border and immigrants is all they have.

[nauseus]

 

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Hogwash the dems have been trying for years to get the tools nessary to handle the border but the republicans find it two useful a club to bash the dems.this time around it’s clearly obvious it’s done to help trump no more no less and let’s not forget at the behest of trump Ukraine is getting shanked at the same time 

 

Talking of hogwash.....

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

For anyone interested, here's a copy of the bill.

 

https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/emergency_national_security_supplemental_bill_text.pdf

 

The Repubs didn't kill it.   It was DOA.

 

LOL, of course and it should be dead.

More than half (~57%) was allocated to the DOD for personnel, operations and maintenance, procurement, R&D, and command operations. More specifically, 71% of that ($47.7B) was to support Ukraine. Another $10.4B was directed to support Israel, and $1.9B for Taiwan. $3.3B was for submarines and submarine base construction. Central Command (the Middle East) got $2.4B, while the Indo-Pacific Command received $542M and almost $100M allocated for radioactive isotopes **(p. 24, Line item 5).....wow. 

**https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/emergency_national_security_supplemental_bill_text.pdf

 

Be sure that the voters know and acknowledge that Biden is fully responsible for creating the border crisis who seeks now to use the very crisis he created to blame Trump during election season. Biden's doing what he does best: lying to America and delivering one failure after another.

 

 

Swing state voters on Biden's Border crisis

[Walker88]

5 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Any bill that simply lets asylum seekers run free in the country should be killed. Put the National Guard on the border. Immediately return anyone crossing at unauthorized areas. House the rest in camps until their cases can be adjudicated. Deport as necessary. No work authorization, no hotel rooms. no credit cards, no cell phones.  Wait in custody until your case is heard.

 

Anyone who tries to overthrow the duly elected President, puts together a campaign of fake electors, tries to pressure a State official to break the law, or foment a violent attack on the US Capitol----and while having the power and authority to stop it, but instead sits on his bloated fatuga for 3 hours as people chant to hang his VP...should be killed, as those acts equate to the capital crime of Sedition.

 

10 U.S. Code § 894 - Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition

[Walker88]

The trump cult, aka The Own Goal Party, aka House Republicans, would have had the Revolutionary Army gunning them down, as that army did against the monarch-worshiping Red Coat Brits in 1776.

 

Actual patriots put country first, not a miscreant cult leader who needs a border issue in his diminishing hope of getting re-elected---and that provided he stays out of jail.

 

So disfunctional have those Performance Artist clowns become that, after trying for months to find a crime for which they could impeach Biden (but failed to find anything), they went after Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas, despite not being able to find a crime there, either. The mathematically-challenged batsh!t crazy Talibangical Speaker Johnson (a perfect name for that little tool) brought the vote to the floor---and failed. He says he plans to try again, apparently after he completes his remedial math class.

 

The Bill he said 'is dead on arrival' at the House, he admitted he did not read, though insisted he did not agree with it. I suspect he imagined reading it in his mind, the way his false god (Mikey, isn't having a false god a violation of the First Commandment?) imagined "declassifying with his mind".

 

The Bill not only contained an extensive-Senate Republican-written plan to work on border issues, but also included emergency assistance for Ukraine and Israel. "Dead on arrival" means brave Ukrainians short on ammo to fight the invading russians, will likely lose territory and suffer thousands more civilian casualties. No aid for Israel removes any bargaining power the US might have to work out any sort of solution in Gaza, which also means more innocent civilian deaths.

 

None of that matter to the Won Goal House trumpian cult, however, as their first loyalty is to their messiah trump, the second to their own re-election, and third to putin.

 

The Speaker, fresh from his failure to impeach SecHS, then brought a vote to the floor in a stand alone Bill for aid to Israel, but his own fellow goobers voted that down, too.  The one thing this gaggle of morons did pass was a resolution declaring that their messiah absolutely did not engage in insurrection, which is as false as their notion that they care a lick about America and its citizens.  Apparently "who could have known" that the goobers specifically called to Washington by trump on 6 January 2021, then fired up due to his silly Mall rant, would engage in wanton violence against law enforcement and the Capitol itself, hellbent on hanging the VP, finding "Nancy", when the House R's no doubt firmly believe trump sent them just to pick up some souvenir coffee mug and key chains.

[simple1]

24 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

The trump cult, aka The Own Goal Party, aka House Republicans, would have had the Revolutionary Army gunning them down, as that army did against the monarch-worshiping Red Coat Brits in 1776.

 

Actual patriots put country first, not a miscreant cult leader who needs a border issue in his diminishing hope of getting re-elected---and that provided he stays out of jail.

 

So disfunctional have those Performance Artist clowns become that, after trying for months to find a crime for which they could impeach Biden (but failed to find anything), they went after Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas, despite not being able to find a crime there, either. The mathematically-challenged batsh!t crazy Talibangical Speaker Johnson (a perfect name for that little tool) brought the vote to the floor---and failed. He says he plans to try again, apparently after he completes his remedial math class.

 

The Bill he said 'is dead on arrival' at the House, he admitted he did not read, though insisted he did not agree with it. I suspect he imagined reading it in his mind, the way his false god (Mikey, isn't having a false god a violation of the First Commandment?) imagined "declassifying with his mind".

 

The Bill not only contained an extensive-Senate Republican-written plan to work on border issues, but also included emergency assistance for Ukraine and Israel. "Dead on arrival" means brave Ukrainians short on ammo to fight the invading russians, will likely lose territory and suffer thousands more civilian casualties. No aid for Israel removes any bargaining power the US might have to work out any sort of solution in Gaza, which also means more innocent civilian deaths.

 

None of that matter to the Won Goal House trumpian cult, however, as their first loyalty is to their messiah trump, the second to their own re-election, and third to putin.

 

The Speaker, fresh from his failure to impeach SecHS, then brought a vote to the floor in a stand alone Bill for aid to Israel, but his own fellow goobers voted that down, too.  The one thing this gaggle of morons did pass was a resolution declaring that their messiah absolutely did not engage in insurrection, which is as false as their notion that they care a lick about America and its citizens.  Apparently "who could have known" that the goobers specifically called to Washington by trump on 6 January 2021, then fired up due to his silly Mall rant, would engage in wanton violence against law enforcement and the Capitol itself, hellbent on hanging the VP, finding "Nancy", when the House R's no doubt firmly believe trump sent them just to pick up some souvenir coffee mug and key chains.

 

Excellent post - well done. Trump directed his sycophants to reject the Bill to spite Biden with the associated damage to the West. Trump is not fit to represent the Office of the President of the USA- what a pathetic individual as are his enablers.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

Excellent post - well done. Trump directed his sycophants to reject the Bill to spite Biden with the associated damage to the West. Trump is not fit to represent the Office of the President of the USA- what a pathetic individual as are his enablers.

Came too late to edit the bad spelling.

 

Besides the fact that the VERY conservative Union of Border Patrol Officers supported the Bill, what is outrageous is the wanton disregard for the parts of the Bill that would aid the brave Ukrainians, as well as give the US some bargaining power with Israel in Gaza.

 

DEAD civilians---in Gaza, in Israel, in Ukraine---and likely later in Poland, Estonia and even Finland---is the future, and ALL OF IT falls on the clown car Republicans. Idiots. Traitors.

 

It embarrasses me that my country, which I used to think was strong and on its never-ending goal of pure democracy and equality, was destroyed by a two-bit Carnival Barker career criminal moron, and weak weak weak people both in the citizenry and elected office. LOSERS, one and all.

 

 

[candide]

3 hours ago, illisdean said:

LOL, of course and it should be dead.

More than half (~57%) was allocated to the DOD for personnel, operations and maintenance, procurement, R&D, and command operations. More specifically, 71% of that ($47.7B) was to support Ukraine. Another $10.4B was directed to support Israel, and $1.9B for Taiwan. $3.3B was for submarines and submarine base construction. Central Command (the Middle East) got $2.4B, while the Indo-Pacific Command received $542M and almost $100M allocated for radioactive isotopes **(p. 24, Line item 5).....wow. 

**https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/emergency_national_security_supplemental_bill_text.pdf

 

Be sure that the voters know and acknowledge that Biden is fully responsible for creating the border crisis who seeks now to use the very crisis he created to blame Trump during election season. Biden's doing what he does best: lying to America and delivering one failure after another.

 

 

Swing state voters on Biden's Border crisis

So, according to your arguments, Putin must be happy the bill did not pass.

[sirineou]

Why is there $47,7 Billion  to Ukraine , $10,4 bullion to Israel and almost 2 billion to Taiwan in the bill . 

I was not aware we had a border with any of those countries. 

Of the 118 billion allocated in the bill, almost half of it is going to other countries.

Is this the US border bill, I am confused?  

I hate trump and don't like the Republicans, but the Democrats ain't a prize either. 

[EVENKEEL]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A major bit of MAGA accusation/ confession going on right there.

 

Republicans can’t back fixing the border because screaming about the border and immigrants is all they have.

For biden's first 3 yrs in office the border wasn't a priorty. In fact during the debates biden told asylum seekers to surge the border. But, you knew that already.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

33 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

For biden's first 3 yrs in office the border wasn't a priorty. In fact during the debates biden told asylum seekers to surge the border. But, you knew that already.

 

 

bless.

 

Seeking a better life in America, that’s a thing right?

 

Struggling to figure it out, ask your forefathers.

 

 

[Hanaguma]

52 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

bless.

 

Seeking a better life in America, that’s a thing right?

 

Struggling to figure it out, ask your forefathers.

 

 

Yes, it is a thing. A thing accomplished by applying for permission at a US embassy or consulate. As many peoples' forefathers did. A thing NOT accomplished by making the conscious decision to pay human smugglers thousands of dollars, taking pains to avoid manned border crossings, destroying one's own documents, and then expecting to be welcomed with food, rooms in hotels, and credit cards. 

[Tug]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

For biden's first 3 yrs in office the border wasn't a priorty. In fact during the debates biden told asylum seekers to surge the border. But, you knew that already.

 

 

Untrue the dems have bee attempting legislation for years and usually Mitch McConnell shoots it down.in my humble opinion we are witnessing what trump plans if we are saddled with this (fill in here)again,pure revenge spite and bile.the president of Ukraine Mr Zelenskyy is a for real leader of historic stature for all the right reasons a leader like Nelson to the Britt’s or Washington to us Americans.Now trump is trying to exact revenge on a whole nation fighting for its life because the president of that nation wouldent lie for trump.trump in the guise of wealth and the position of an ex president is a vile petty small little creature he should never ever be allowed near power again and that’s not even getting into the immigration bill!let’s get this abomination behind bars were he belongs!

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes, it is a thing. A thing accomplished by applying for permission at a US embassy or consulate. As many peoples' forefathers did. A thing NOT accomplished by making the conscious decision to pay human smugglers thousands of dollars, taking pains to avoid manned border crossings, destroying one's own documents, and then expecting to be welcomed with food, rooms in hotels, and credit cards. 

Seeking asylum is a right.

 

No visa required.

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Came too late to edit the bad spelling.

 

Besides the fact that the VERY conservative Union of Border Patrol Officers supported the Bill, what is outrageous is the wanton disregard for the parts of the Bill that would aid the brave Ukrainians, as well as give the US some bargaining power with Israel in Gaza.

 

DEAD civilians---in Gaza, in Israel, in Ukraine---and likely later in Poland, Estonia and even Finland---is the future, and ALL OF IT falls on the clown car Republicans. Idiots. Traitors.

 

It embarrasses me that my country, which I used to think was strong and on its never-ending goal of pure democracy and equality, was destroyed by a two-bit Carnival Barker career criminal moron, and weak weak weak people both in the citizenry and elected office. LOSERS, one and all.

 

 

"Pure democracy" was never the goal of the United States. You need to study a bit of history. Equality is great amongst legal residents and citizens, not for those who crash the border.  And you are right about one thing. The US is a strong country. Too strong to be much bothered or hurt by a "two-bit Carnival Barker".

 

If you think immigration reform is pressing, then there is no need (other than political expediency) to bung it together in an omnibus bill with so many other disparate parts. Let each part of the bill stand or fall on its own merits. Surely nothing could be more purely democratic than that...

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Equality is great amongst legal residents and citizens, not for those who crash the border. 

Do you have a reference to back that up?

[Tug]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes, it is a thing. A thing accomplished by applying for permission at a US embassy or consulate. As many peoples' forefathers did. A thing NOT accomplished by making the conscious decision to pay human smugglers thousands of dollars, taking pains to avoid manned border crossings, destroying one's own documents, and then expecting to be welcomed with food, rooms in hotels, and credit cards. 

Ahhh haggie under the present laws what they are doing is leagle the bill that was canned on behest of trump addressed that I hope that helps you can’t be expected to know cause you aren’t American

[Hanaguma]

50 minutes ago, Tug said:

Ahhh haggie under the present laws what they are doing is leagle the bill that was canned on behest of trump addressed that I hope that helps you can’t be expected to know cause you aren’t American

Really... the bill would let 5000 per day cross the border illegally.  It did nothing to address the human smugglers. Nothing to attempt to keep the 'migrants' in supervised detention until their cases were heard. And nothing to punish those who employ them. 

[Hanaguma]

55 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Seeking asylum is a right.

 

No visa required.

True. Seek it at the nearest US consulate or embassy. Seek it in the first safe country you can escape to.  This was the basis of the "Remain in Mexico" policy, which Biden cancelled.  

 

Free hotel rooms, credit cards, meals, plane/bus tickets are NOT a right. Asylum seekers should be housed in administrative detention until their cases can be heard, and not allowed to roam the country without any form of vetting or security check.