Social Media Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 In a startling development, five British special forces soldiers are now under arrest on suspicion of murder by military authorities. The allegations are tied to an incident involving the killing of a suspected member of Islamic Jihad in Syria in 2022. This revelation has sent shockwaves through the military community and raised serious questions about the conduct of British troops operating in conflict zones. According to reports, military police have sent case files recommending that the soldiers be prosecuted for murder to the Service Prosecuting Authority. This authority is responsible for prosecuting offenses alleged to have been committed by military personnel. While the Ministry of Defense has declined to comment specifically on the case, they emphasized that any allegations of wrongdoing are taken very seriously and are thoroughly investigated. The soldiers in question are members of the elite Special Air Service (SAS) unit, renowned for their high-risk operations and specialized training. They claim that the suspect they targeted posed a significant threat and that they believed he was about to carry out a suicide attack. However, military police have raised concerns that the level of force used may have been excessive. Sources within the Service Prosecuting Authority have indicated that while the soldiers claim to have found a live suicide vest nearby, the suspect was not wearing it at the time of his death. This has led to questions about the justification for the use of lethal force in this particular situation. These arrests mark the first time that British troops have faced such serious allegations in connection with their actions in suppressing ISIS in Syria and Iraq. It underscores the challenges and complexities of conducting military operations in conflict zones, where the line between self-defense and excessive force can often become blurred. The SAS has been actively engaged in covert ground operations for more than a decade, primarily working alongside Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces in the northeast of Syria. Their missions often involve calling in airstrikes by RAF Typhoon warplanes and drones against high-value targets identified by the special forces operatives on the ground. In addition to their combat operations, the SAS has also been involved in rescue missions to retrieve British citizens, including children, who have been caught up in the conflict with ISIS. These operations highlight the versatility and adaptability of the SAS in responding to a wide range of security challenges. However, these recent arrests cast a shadow over the reputation of the SAS and raise questions about the oversight and accountability mechanisms in place for British special forces. It remains to be seen how the prosecutions will proceed and what impact they will have on future military operations. The arrests also come at a sensitive time, as the British government faces scrutiny over allegations of misconduct by the SAS in Afghanistan. An ongoing public inquiry is investigating claims that SAS operatives summarily executed civilians during the conflict with the Taliban insurgency. If these allegations are proven true, it could have far-reaching implications for the military and raise serious questions about the conduct of special forces operations in conflict zones. In light of these developments, there are growing calls for greater transparency and accountability within the military, particularly when it comes to the conduct of special forces units. The public has a right to know what actions are being taken in their name, and there must be robust mechanisms in place to ensure that military personnel are held accountable for any wrongdoing. As the investigations into these allegations continue, there is a pressing need for the military to uphold the highest standards of conduct and ensure that justice is served. The reputation of the SAS and the integrity of the British armed forces are at stake, and it is essential that all allegations of misconduct are thoroughly investigated and addressed. 07.03.24 Source 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 Who are the morons that ordered the arrest? They send highly trained men in harms way and then prosecute them for doing their job. If they are convicted, I can be certain that the rest will be "reluctant" to carry out such tasks in future. I can even see return to unit requests arising from this farce, and a down turn in applicants. It's such a stupid move that one can imagine the powers that be want to degrade the SAS operational capability. Such men need to know that their superiors have their back, not that they are likely to be stabbed in the back. 8 4 3 3 1 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 The UK has gone mad.............. 6 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 (edited) I was only obeying zee orders! Troops should only be used for defending their countries, killing foreigners in their own countries is entirely unacceptable. Edited March 7 by BritManToo 4 10 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 I predict that O*****n will equate this story to his time served in the sea cadets 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, transam said: The UK has gone mad.............. You can't have democracy and lawyers.🤔 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, BritManToo said: killing foreigners in their own countries is entirely unacceptable. Agree, if the dead guy was in fact Syrian. He was probably just as foreign as they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 (edited) 15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Who are the morons that ordered the arrest? They send highly trained men in harms way and then prosecute them for doing their job. If they are convicted, I can be certain that the rest will be "reluctant" to carry out such tasks in future. I can even see return to unit requests arising from this farce, and a down turn in applicants. It's such a stupid move that one can imagine the powers that be want to degrade the SAS operational capability. Such men need to know that their superiors have their back, not that they are likely to be stabbed in the back. Didn’t you argue in another thread that there are ‘rules of war’ and go on to complain bitterly about such rules being ignored with impunity? Edited March 7 by Chomper Higgot 2 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 I once thought of applying to test for the SAS, and then I slapped myself and gave the idea up. The entry test is designed to weed out the less than amazing supermen already in the military and only the most real of real men will pass. I was openly in respect of such men, and that's not something I did lightly. That some wimpy bureaucratic nonentities should commit such an atrocity against them is IMO an outrage. 3 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I once thought of applying to test for the SAS, and then I slapped myself and gave the idea up. The entry test is designed to weed out the less than amazing supermen already in the military and only the most real of real men will pass. I was openly in respect of such men, and that's not something I did lightly. That some wimpy bureaucratic nonentities should commit such an atrocity against them is IMO an outrage. So then you became a nurse yes we know..... 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Didn’t you argue in another thread that there are ‘rules of war’ and go on to complain bitterly about such rules being ignored with impunity? Its perfectly OK for their side to commit war crimes , they can commit war crimes , but those they are fighting against cannot commit war crimes , because its wrong . They can commit war crimes, but no one can commit war crimes against them . "My side can do it, but your side cannot* 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VocalNeal Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 Just smiling internally that five guys are sitting in a nice warm cell, with three squares a day, being questioned by a guy in a suit after having passed the 36-hour Resistance to Interrogation training. Good luck with that. 1 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I once thought of applying to test for the SAS, and then I slapped myself and gave the idea up. The entry test is designed to weed out the less than amazing supermen already in the military and only the most real of real men will pass. I was openly in respect of such men, and that's not something I did lightly. That some wimpy bureaucratic nonentities should commit such an atrocity against them is IMO an outrage. Not quite as good as meeting a member of the ‘SAS’ on the next stool in some downtown Pattaya den of iniquity, but good effort worthy of recognition. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: Its perfectly OK for their side to commit war crimes , they can commit war crimes , but those they are fighting against cannot commit war crimes , because its wrong . They can commit war crimes, but no one can commit war crimes against them . "My side can do it, but your side cannot* Not an argument I would make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: Just smiling internally that five guys are sitting in a nice warm cell, with three squares a day, being questioned by a guy in a suit after having passed the 36-hour Resistance to Interrogation training. Good luck with that. Assuming that they were in a military jail I can be sure that they are not going to be messed around with by the screws. That's not something I could say about an ordinary prisoner. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I once thought of applying to test for the SAS, and then I slapped myself and gave the idea up. A mate of mine's son is currently undergoing selection for the SRR. Not quite the same but... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Didn’t you argue in another thread that there are ‘rules of war’ and go on to complain bitterly about such rules being ignored with impunity? Where did it say they are guilty of a crime? If they say they did it for operational reasons, that's good enough for me. When they are proven to have dropped dirty great bombs on defenseless children, I'll agree that they are guilty of war crimes. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, VocalNeal said: A mate of mine's son is currently undergoing selection for the SRR. Not quite the same but... Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Not an argument I would make. I actually agree with you on that, but there is nothing to say that the SAS guys did anything wrong while on active service in harm's way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cdemundo Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 Seems like they were doing their job. An Islamic Jihad operative, sounds like a killer to me. I don't get it. 3 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Good for him. Apparently, he likes living in holes on Brecon Beacons.😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I actually agree with you on that, but there is nothing to say that the SAS guys did anything wrong while on active service in harm's way. Isn’t determining that the pint of the investigation. Clearly there are some significant concerns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post James105 Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 7 hours ago, Social Media said: incident involving the killing of a suspected member of Islamic Jihad in Syria in 2022. 2 years ago. Wonder why they felt the need to do this today, and publicise it heavily as well. The chancellor announced in the budget yesterday - the very first thing he mentioned in fact - that there would be a million pounds given to a special muslim memorial for muslims who participated in WW1 and WW2. No other religion has a special memorial for this, just memorials that commemorate all those who sacrificed their lives in these wars. What on earth is going on with the UK that has turned this once proud nation into (at least at governmental level) appeasers for the religion of "peace"? 3 1 1 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post topt Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 37 minutes ago, transam said: The UK has gone mad.............. Agreed and this appears to be an almost worse example and I would like to understand the reasoning behind the Scottish judge's sentence. (Ex SAS member sentenced to 6 months for contempt as will not go to Ireland to be cross examined on an event over 30 years ago due to PTSD) https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-68459707 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 Just now, James105 said: 2 years ago. Wonder why they felt the need to do this today, and publicise it heavily as well. The chancellor announced in the budget yesterday - the very first thing he mentioned in fact - that there would be a million pounds given to a special muslim memorial for muslims who participated in WW1 and WW2. No other religion has a special memorial for this, just memorials that commemorate all those who sacrificed their lives in these wars. What on earth is going on with the UK that has turned this once proud nation into (at least at governmental level) appeasers for the religion of "peace"? Yes, I listened to that and thought, WTF.... Honestly, these people have really lost the plot and "stuffing" the UK..............😟 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, James105 said: No other religion has a special memorial for this, just memorials that commemorate all those who sacrificed their lives in these wars. Erm: https://www.willesdenjewishcemetery.org.uk/news-listing/david-shilling-jcxk4-6528d 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoDisplayName Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 These stormtroopers were illegally invading Syria. They should be turned over to the Syrian government for prosecution. Rules-based interna.............oh, right. 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDisplayName Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 22 minutes ago, cdemundo said: Seems like they were doing their job. An Islamic Jihad operative, sounds like a killer to me. I don't get it. Would you support the Iranians assassinating MEK operatives in London? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said: These stormtroopers were illegally invading Syria. They should be turned over to the Syrian government for prosecution. Rules-based interna.............oh, right. 😂............You wish................😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 52 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I once thought of applying to test for the SAS, and then I slapped myself and gave the idea up. The entry test is designed to weed out the less than amazing supermen already in the military and only the most real of real men will pass. I was openly in respect of such men, and that's not something I did lightly. That some wimpy bureaucratic nonentities should commit such an atrocity against them is IMO an outrage. Yes not a good idea for some one who thinks that when invaded by another country to roll over and give up your land and freedom to join real men. Wimpy? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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