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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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Just now, Bkk Brian said:

& their supporters

Yes, and most definitely a few nutters on here..............🥴

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  • thaibeachlovers
    thaibeachlovers

    Let's never forget that israel came to be when Irgun and Stern gang terrorism drove the British out of Palestine, and a terrorist ( Begin ) even  became PM. Born of terrorism, and IMO still uses

  • Jeff the Chef
    Jeff the Chef

    The following is a list of United Nations resolutions concerning Israel. As of 2023, the State of Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC).  

  • Jeff the Chef
    Jeff the Chef

    Founded in 1987, Hamas opposed the secular approach of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rejected attempts to cede any part of Palestine, and embraced th

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Hamas sexual abuse survivor at White House event: My recovery depends on hostages’ return

Amit Soussana, who was the first released Israeli hostage to come forward about the sexual abuse she endured in captivity, addresses a White House event marking International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence in Conflict.

“If someone had told me a few months ago while I was sitting in a dark room in Gaza tied up by my ankle and unable to move that I would be standing here today before you all, I would have thought that they were out of their mind,” she tells attendees shortly after meeting US Vice President Kamala Harris.

“Being in captivity means having no control over your mind, body or soul. You have absolutely no control over what happens to you. All your basic human rights are taken from you. Even your feelings are completely controlled by someone else,” says Soussana.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-sexual-abuse-survivor-at-white-house-event-my-recovery-depends-on-hostages-return/

Amit Soussana speaks at a White House event raising awareness for conflict-related sexual violence on June 17, 2024. (Screen capture/YouTube)

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Hamas sexual abuse survivor at White House event: My recovery depends on hostages’ return

Amit Soussana, who was the first released Israeli hostage to come forward about the sexual abuse she endured in captivity, addresses a White House event marking International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence in Conflict.

“If someone had told me a few months ago while I was sitting in a dark room in Gaza tied up by my ankle and unable to move that I would be standing here today before you all, I would have thought that they were out of their mind,” she tells attendees shortly after meeting US Vice President Kamala Harris.

“Being in captivity means having no control over your mind, body or soul. You have absolutely no control over what happens to you. All your basic human rights are taken from you. Even your feelings are completely controlled by someone else,” says Soussana.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-sexual-abuse-survivor-at-white-house-event-my-recovery-depends-on-hostages-return/

Amit Soussana speaks at a White House event raising awareness for conflict-related sexual violence on June 17, 2024. (Screen capture/YouTube)

Harris: I fear testimony on Hamas sexual violence will increase as more hostages released

US Vice President Kamala Harris expresses her concern that testimony on Hamas’s use of sexual violence will only increase as more hostages are released from Gaza.

Speaking at a White House event raising awareness on conflict-related sexual violence, Harris recalls stories she’s heard from former hostages, including Amit Sussana who was the first abductee to come forward publicly about the sexual abuse she endured in captivity.

Sussana is also participating in the White House event, which includes the screening of Sheryl Sandberg’s Screams Before Silence — a documentary on the sexual violence perpetrated by Hamas-led terrorists during the October 7 onslaught.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/harris-i-fear-testimony-on-hamas-sexual-violence-will-increase-as-more-hostages-released/ 

 

Getting the job done even with daily humanitarian pauses

 

IDF says half of Hamas’s forces in Rafah dismantled, at least 550 gunmen killed
Military says it found 25 ‘long’ tunnels, some which may cross into Egypt, as Palestinians report Israeli troops are pushing deeper into Gaza’s southernmost city

The IDF’s 162nd Division has been fighting in Rafah for more than 40 days, first taking control of the city’s eastern outskirts and the border crossing with Egypt in early May. In the second stage of the operation, about a week and a half later, the division captured the Brazil neighborhood. The third stage of the Rafah offensive saw the IDF take control of the entire Egypt-Gaza border, known as the Philadelphi Corridor, and push into the city’s northwestern Tel Sultan neighborhood.
The IDF said it has killed at least 550 gunmen in the Rafah operation — that is, those it was able to physically identify following battles. Many more terror operatives were killed in strikes against buildings and tunnels, it has assessed. Additionally, an unknown number of terror operatives fled the Rafah area as the military began its offensive there.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-half-of-hamass-forces-in-rafah-dismantled-at-least-550-gunmen-killed/

The difference between Israel and Hamas, is that Hamas wants to kill every Jew in the world and would if they had the means. Israel just wants Hamas to surrender unconditionally. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, BigBruv said:

"A newly surfaced document has revealed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and intelligence systems had detailed knowledge of Hamas's plan to raid Israel and kidnap 250 people weeks before the October 7 massacre [massacre also due to the IDF implementation of the Hannibal Directive]. The document, which was compiled in the Gaza Division, outlined Hamas's intentions and was known to top intelligence officials, according to a report by Kan News. The document, titled "Detailed End-to-End Raid Training," was distributed on September 19, 2023, and described in detail the series of exercises conducted by Hamas's elite units. These exercises included raiding military posts and kibbutzim (collective communities in Israel), kidnapping soldiers and civilians, and maintaining the hostages once they were in the Gaza Strip. The report by Kan News stated, "Security sources told Kan News that the document was known to the intelligence leadership, at the very least in the Gaza Division."

 

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Almost as if they planned it themselves

 

 

Terrorists using the civilians and civilian infrastructure as cover and then complain when the IDF fires back

 

 

On 6/17/2024 at 11:51 PM, Jeff the Chef said:

Some Israeli's know what they want, such a nice man, or is he, discuss?

 

Israel: Former MP invokes Hitler in call to expel Gaza's 'Islamo-Nazi' population
Moshe Feiglin in TV interview calls for resettlement of Gaza and expulsion of Palestinians.

In a panel discussion on Channel 12, Feiglin called for resettlement in Gaza and argued Israel should transform the Palestinian territory into a "Hebrew Gaza".

"We are not guests in our country, this is our country, all of it," he said in the video shared on Sunday in Israeli social media. 

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-former-knesset-member-moshe-feiglin-invokes-hitler-while-calling-gaza-resettlement

Amazing that no one has brought up Biden's cover for people like that. Seems it's OK for israelis to say things that if a certain president said it about a certain population in a certain country would have the self same Biden up in arms saying how vile that president was.

 

IMO our civilization is sick that such hypocrisy is rampant at the very highest levels without question by the MSM.

The main reason this war is ongoing, the hostages

 

Senior Israeli negotiator says dozens of Gaza hostages ‘alive, with certainty’

A senior Israeli negotiator told AFP on Monday that dozens of hostages held by Hamas in Gaza are certainly alive and that Israel cannot accept halting the war until all captives are released in a deal.

“Dozens are alive, with certainty,” the official said on condition of anonymity as he was not authorized to speak publicly on the issue.

“We cannot leave them there a long time, they will die,” he said, adding that a vast majority of them were being held by Hamas in Gaza.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/senior-israeli-negotiator-says-dozens-of-gaza-hostages-alive-with-certainty/

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Again , killing civilians in safe areas.
 

An Israeli airstrike on the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza on Monday killed several people, according to local media.

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/several-people-killed-in-israeli-strike-on-nuseirat-refugee-camp/3252517

How do you know they were all civilians? It doesn't even claim that in the Turkish media outlet, do you care about the truth?

12 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Again , killing civilians in safe areas.
 

An Israeli airstrike on the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza on Monday killed several people, according to local media.

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/several-people-killed-in-israeli-strike-on-nuseirat-refugee-camp/3252517

“Hamas should give us a map of the safe zones we can stay in, because if we knew there were hostages in the neighborhood, we would have looked for another place,” said Mustafa Muhammad, 36, who fled from Gaza City to Nuseirat.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/rescued-hostages-were-held-by-families-with-known-ties-to-hamas-says-report/

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Oh dear, cracks are appearing between the IDF and the israeli government.

 

Daniel Hagari criticizes the israeli government

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2024/05/israel-defense-netanyahu-gaza-gallant/678391/

This is over a month old and since when did Politicians and the Military always agree in any conflict over everything? The main goal of both of them remains the same, get rid of Hamas and get the hostages back.

 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IDF destroyed the Rafah crossing. Were there Hamas fighters hiding under the desks, or in the rubbish tins?

The israeli plan becomes more clear as the evidence of their wanton destruction is exposed.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-forces-set-fire-rafah-crossings-departure-hall

You may want to read what's really happening in Rafah instead of a single picture shared online that Hamas supporting Middleeasteye made an article from.

 

In Rafah, IDF focuses on tunnels, with aim of destroying Hamas brigade within a month

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-rafah-idf-focuses-on-tunnels-with-aim-of-destroying-hamas-brigade-within-a-month/

9 hours ago, coolcarer said:

“Hamas should give us a map of the safe zones we can stay in, because if we knew there were hostages in the neighborhood, we would have looked for another place,” said Mustafa Muhammad, 36, who fled from Gaza City to Nuseirat.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/rescued-hostages-were-held-by-families-with-known-ties-to-hamas-says-report/

Hamas can't be operating among civilians, that would be a war crime. 

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

“The Israeli army is one of the most criminal in the world” says UN expert

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/6/19/the-israeli-army-is-one-of-the-most-criminal-in-the-world-says-un-expert

He's not a UN expert....lol. He's one of the independent Commissioners for the report only. Show's how bias the panel has been though.

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

He's not a UN expert....lol. He's one of the independent Commissioners for the report only. Show's how bias the panel has been though.

Wrong. Everyone that hates Israel qualifies as an "expert". 

Someone is lying then....

 

The Israeli army spokesperson Daniel Hagari said Hamas is “an idea” that cannot disappear, stating that his country’s goal to wipe the group out is unachievable, and that anyone who promises to eradicate Hamas is “misleading the public”.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live/gaza-live-wfp-pauses-aid-deliveries-through-us-pier

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