British backpacker murderers make fresh appeal against sentence (video)

[IslandLover]

8 hours ago, frank83628 said:

David was naked when his body was recovered from the sea, The position of Hannahs body behind the rocks, in a dark and secluded spot, it's highly possible they were having sex and got disturbed. that area is know as 'king Rama rock', it's also possible that someone took offense at them disrespecting the K...  hence the ferocity of the attack!
how about Sean Mcanna, possibly a suspect, or at least a person of interst, put himself in the picture by claiming to been meeting David that night and knew him from Uni, used to sing and play guitar, had various cuts to his arms,  however SKY news (i believe) escorted him off the Island after his 'mafia' claim, in total disregard to the Thai police investigation, he subsequently vanished, last know to have been in Milan, it's a shame the Samui Times was so desperate to pin it on a family she had links to rather than have an open mind on other possibilities.

 

It was the Daily Telegraph who got Sean McAnna off the island and video-interviewed him whilst he was leaving.  Sean was photographed shaking hands with the Koh Phangan police chief (I forget his name) on Koh Tao and one can probably conclude from that that he was paid off in some way to leave.  How else would he have been able to set himself up in Milan and start a new life?  Yes, McAnna has been, and remains a suspect.

[IslandLover]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I am going to take a guess that you have a business on Kao Tao which is reliant on Western tourists and the bad publicity harms your business and so you are trying to convince all potential tourists that there isnt murders and killers living on the island being protected   by the police and freely kill at will whenever they want .

   Bad publicity for your business ?

 

Spot on!  Those of us who have followed this case since the beginning recognise some of the posters who were around at that time.  

[roo860]

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

But his comment was also accurate.

In what way was it accurate?

[IslandLover]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

so you ignored the part where i said he slept in the open, not seemingly too scared of so called mafia!

 

i was on Tao at the time, i made that pretty clear i thought, i was on the beach the next day watching the goings on, along with half the Island

 

what difference does that have to me knowing Sean is full of s**t?

 

if he was on the beach and can point out the murderers then it's even more important that he gave statements to police rather then be escorted off the Island by Sky news.

 

"so you ignored the part where i said he slept in the open, not seemingly too scared of so called mafia!"

 

Sean told everyone who would listen that he spent the night in the jungle hiding from the "mafia".  You are right about one thing though, he is full of s**t.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

mon? WTF are you on about, you don't have a clue what you are talking about, 

 

 

 

   I don't recall their names, as I have previously stated .

What were there names ? min and mon or something like that 

As you seem to live on the island Ian , how much money was rumoured to have changed hands for the Burmese 2 to be found guilty .

   How much was the rumoured pay off to make it all go away for M & M , Ian ?

 

[frank83628]

53 minutes ago, IslandLover said:

 

It was the Daily Telegraph who got Sean McAnna off the island and interviewed him whilst he was leaving.  Sean was photographed shaking hands with the Koh Phangan police chief (I forget his name) on Koh Tao and one can probably conclude from that that he was paid off in some way to leave.  How else would he have been able to set himself up in Milan and start a new life?  Yes, McAnna has been, and remains a suspect.

i'm very much doubt he was paid off, that doesn't make sense at all, why blame the Tao 'mafia' and not say it was Burmese dudes or someone else.
i don think he set himself up in milan as such, or if he is still there, just hid from UK press., i didn't have much interest in him after he's gone to be honest, he was a total <deleted>. i do know he changed FB accounts but cannot remember it now.

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, frank83628 said:

 yea, knowing Sean as i do.. he's full of <deleted>. you keep on believing him if you want. if his life was in so much danger why did he sleep the night on a sofa in a very popular bar, in full view of any mafia hunting him down?? i was there..were you?

 

   Your claim  about Sean doesn't tally up with his version of events .

Your claim that Sean slept the night on the sofa of a popular bar in full view of everyone , Sean said

 

 

:"I was scared sh*tless. I was really scared. So I kept moving every thirty minutes in case anybody had seen me. I would move from one part, to the next part in case there was anyone close that had seen me and could send someone."

 

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/news/a29858/sean-mcanna-david-millar-murder-thai-mafia/

 

   Who is lying , You or Sean ?

 

 

 

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I am going to take a guess that you have a business on Kao Tao which is reliant on Western tourists and the bad publicity harms your business and so you are trying to convince all potential tourists that there isnt murders and killers living on the island being protected   by the police and freely kill at will whenever they want .

   Bad publicity for your business ?

freely kill at will? so are you one of those guys who thinks there is a protected serial killer on Tao? 😂.
as i have already said in previous comment, no publicity is bad publicity, all the articles of Tao probably made it known to people that probably hadn't heard of it before, Tao was busy last year and even more this year so far,  Koh Tao is full steam ahead!!

[IslandLover]

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

i'm very much doubt he was paid off, that doesn't make sense at all, why blame the Tao 'mafia' and not say it was Burmese dudes or someone else.
i don think he set himself up in milan as such, or if he is still there, just hid from UK press., i didn't have much interest in him after he's gone to be honest, he was a total <deleted>. i do know he changed FB accounts but cannot remember it now.

 

McAnna was allegedly penniless when he fled from Koh Tao.  How else could he have set himself up in Milan?  You do the math.

 

He never fingered the two Burmese because he's on record as saying they were scapegoats.  How David Miller was ever friends with him is beyond me.  He was (allegedly) dealing drugs on KT and had a child pornography conviction (proven) back in Scotland.

[IslandLover]

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

She was still, possibly, having sex on the beach with the bloke who was found dead, naked, so, yes, if she hadn't have been there she's be alive today.

 

That is the Thai Buddhist mantra but I doubt you are a Buddhist.  Accident no happen if you not there ......

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, frank83628 said:

freely kill at will? so are you one of those guys who thinks there is a protected serial killer on Tao? 😂.
 

 

   Not particularly and not necessarily a serial killer  .

But some of the locals can kill tourists and get away with it .

Is there one individually killing tourists on each occasion  or a serial killer ?

I don't know that 

[Foreign Jim]

12 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

They were adults at the time, they were not kids.

Fine, they were 22 at the time.  Three years into 'adulthood.' What's your point? They've had a good chunk of their lives squandered in prison for a crime they most certainly did not commit. 

[maxcorrigan]

On 4/2/2024 at 1:47 PM, smedly said:

no witnesses to place him on the island or none that would come forward 

There was a cctv footage of him hurrying away from the (beach) he had a strange way of swinging his arms when walking there was no mistaking him, this cctv vanished along with all other cctv's in the locality, the whole case stank to high heaven, even Prayut stuck his oar in when he said farrang women were asking for trouble because they walked around in bikinis!

[maxcorrigan]

On 4/3/2024 at 6:24 AM, smedly said:

from what I understand  David and Hannah were just new friends, they stayed at the same residence 200m from the beach where they were both murdered, Hannah left the bar before David, what happened after that is guessing, another resident heard screaming on the beach, David likely heard it too on his way home and decided to investigate, these cowardly thugs murdered them both, David is a hero.

 

the wounds that were on Davids arms were very compelling - puncture wounds about 2cm long - I know what caused those wounds - ingnored by autopsy because they were told to ignore

The wounds were from a shark tooth ring which were proudly displayed by a dive boat captain up until the time of the murders, then he displayed the ring no more, he was one the maain suspects in the case!

[maxcorrigan]

22 hours ago, sambum said:

This tragic event was covered in depth at the time, and now all the armchair detectives and keyboard warriors are now back on the case.

 Personally, I think that there were too many flaws in the case that it should have been thrown out of court, but one thing that I remember from the original investigation was the comment by the main policeman in charge:-

 

"NO THAI COULD HAVE DONE THIS!"

 

Make of that what you will, but the way I read it is that "No Thai will ever get convicted of this crime!"

That comment was "no thai would do this" was the first comment from Prayut, agree with rest of your comment though!

[frank83628]

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Not particularly and not necessarily a serial killer  .

But some of the locals can kill tourists and get away with it .

Is there one individually killing tourists on each occasion  or a serial killer ?

I don't know that 

the answer is NO!

[maxcorrigan]

17 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I am going to take a guess that you have a business on Kao Tao which is reliant on Western tourists and the bad publicity harms your business and so you are trying to convince all potential tourists that there isnt murders and killers living on the island being protected   by the police and freely kill at will whenever they want .

   Bad publicity for your business ?

Probably, remember "ThailandJohnThailand"who kept stating many times that they had the correct murderous in jail, then it came to light he had a dive boat business on KT to protect his comments on the murders ceased after that!

[ryxyz]

Those in Thailand at the time of the crime knew they were scapegoats.

[sambum]

2 hours ago, maxcorrigan said:

That comment was "no thai would do this" was the first comment from Prayut, agree with rest of your comment though!

 

Sorry, I didn't realise that Prayut was actually at the scene!

[frank83628]

16 minutes ago, maxcorrigan said:

Probably, remember "ThailandJohnThailand"who kept stating many times that they had the correct murderous in jail, then it came to light he had a dive boat business on KT to protect his comments on the murders ceased after that!

if i did have a business on Tao these stories would have had little effect, maybe tourism fluctuated in the years since but it was in general, people have not stayed away or boycotted the Island, well, maybe the few gullible and naive have, but it didn't make any difference.

[Liverpool Lou]

6 hours ago, Foreign Jim said:

19 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

They were adults at the time, they were not kids.

Fine, they were 22 at the time.  Three years into 'adulthood.' What's your point?

My point was that they were not kids, they were adults.   What was yours?

 

Adulthood starts at age 18, so by age 22 they were in their fifth year of being adults, not three...18, 19, 20, 21, 22.

[IslandLover]

11 hours ago, maxcorrigan said:

That comment was "no thai would do this" was the first comment from Prayut, agree with rest of your comment though!

 

You are correct.  It was reported in the international press that Prayut had said it.

[IslandLover]

9 hours ago, sambum said:

 

Sorry, I didn't realise that Prayut was actually at the scene!

 

He wasn't, but that's what he said according to the international press.

[sambum]

3 hours ago, IslandLover said:

 

He wasn't, but that's what he said according to the international press.

 

Sorry, I thought it was the cop originally in charge of the investigation.

P.S. Have we not been on the same threads before - a long time ago? 

 

[Jack100]

On 4/3/2024 at 7:23 AM, edwinchester said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hanratty

 

Appears he was guilty.

In both this case and the Hanratty case ,  it would appear that  the evidence shows they could not have done it    but the 
DNA  result then over ruled.  Very suspicious unless you believe that  DNA   is always   100% correct. 

Personally I believe that DNA stands for Dodgy Numbers Allowed ! 

[MangoKorat]

On 4/3/2024 at 11:11 AM, frank83628 said:

i would be slightly skeptical just how true that whole denying dna testing thing was, there have been so many lies and misinformation printed in the past from certain people that involved themselves, i would like to hear 1st hand to confirm anything related to this case.

They were not denied DNA, there was none available.

 

There were a lot of reports on that facet of the case but specifically one was written by a woman that was involved with the law in Thailand - I can't remember exactly what or who she was but she stated that she had been told by the police that they'd used up all of the material there was that could be tested.  I think she might have been the one who would have tested it.

 

I never believed the reports that claimed the police had lost the DNA material.

 

I'm also pretty sure that the defence lawyer made a complaint that he was unable to test the DNA.  That being so, the case would be thrown out of most courts.

[kiwikeith]

On 4/2/2024 at 6:57 PM, xylophone said:

The whole case was a farce, carried out by incompetant police who, it would appear, were in the pay of a powerful island figure. I saw the original pics and agree with a few others who suggested that it was carried out in anger (over being spurned at the bar). 

 

A shameful episode along with a few other blatant cases in Thailand's past.

The DNA found on the murder weapon was never tested on the alleged purp who was caught on CCTV, left the island, turned up in BK with a new haircut and alibi. A farce, the biggest I've seen in all my years in LOS, except for the red bull brat farce. 

[kiwikeith]

On 4/4/2024 at 7:08 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Not particularly and not necessarily a serial killer  .

But some of the locals can kill tourists and get away with it .

Is there one individually killing tourists on each occasion  or a serial killer ?

I don't know that 

I don't think there is one protected serial killer on Koh Tao, but many protected killing brats who can get away with murder, if I was Burmese I would stay well away from these mafia islands. 

[IslandLover]

On 4/4/2024 at 7:18 PM, sambum said:

 

Sorry, I thought it was the cop originally in charge of the investigation.

P.S. Have we not been on the same threads before - a long time ago? 

 

 

Yes 😁

[sambum]

4 hours ago, IslandLover said:

 

Yes 😁

 

Thought so!