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The IDF's investigation concluded that the army unit involved had believed the vehicles they were tracking from the sky had been taken over by Hamas gunmen, and that they were not aware of the coordination procedures put in place between the military and World Central Kitchen for that evening.

 

It also said they also did not know the cars belonged to the charity, and the three air strikes were in violation of the army's own procedures. The IDF sought to explain the context leading up to the fatal events of that evening. The aid workers had been overseeing the distribution of food aid that had arrived on a ship from Cyprus and unloaded at a recently constructed jetty in the northern Gaza strip. Under coordination with the IDF, the World Central Kitchen team were transferring these supplies to a warehouse a few kilometres further south.

 

During this process, the IDF says their drone operators spotted a gunman riding on the roof of a large aid lorry that was being escorted by the WCK team. They played those of us at the briefing a somewhat blurry video - which has not been released to the public - showing a figure holding a gun, on top of the lorry. At one point the gun is fired, showing up clearly on the slowed-down black and white footage.

 

At this stage the military contacts World Central Kitchen but they are in turn unable to reach the team on the ground - where phone communication is patchy and aid agencies say they are prohibited by the IDF from using radios.

The drone footage also appears to confirm that at night, the stickers on the roof of the World Central Kitchen vehicles, with the charity's logo, are not visible to the drone operator.

 

The military then tracks the convoy, including the aid lorry, to a warehouse. Then the convoy splits - the aid lorry remains in the warehouse and four SUV-type cars emerge. One of those vehicles heads north, and is then shown to contain gunmen, with weapons clearly visible from the drone footage, as they emerge next to another aid warehouse. The IDF say that these gunmen were not targeted, because of their proximity to an aid facility.

 

Meanwhile, three remaining vehicles belonging to World Central Kitchen begin to head south. The drone team, the army says, now working under the assumption that they are dealing with Hamas militants and not an aid convoy, had misidentified one of the aid workers as a gunman, and claimed to have seen them enter one of the three WCK cars.

 

No footage of this moment was provided, but the military investigation concluded that it was a "misclassification... they saw that it's a rifle but at the end of the day it was a bag".

 

Under the mistaken belief that one vehicle now contained a gunman, authorisation to fire a missile is sought, and granted by superior officers. At 23:09 the first vehicle is struck, two minutes later the second, and at 23:13 the third final, fatal strike is launched.

 

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5 hours ago, Social Media said:

Meanwhile, three remaining vehicles belonging to World Central Kitchen begin to head south. The drone team, the army says, now working under the assumption that they are dealing with Hamas militants and not an aid convoy, had misidentified one of the aid workers as a gunman, and claimed to have seen them enter one of the three WCK cars.

 

No footage of this moment was provided, but the military investigation concluded that it was a "misclassification... they saw that it's a rifle but at the end of the day it was a bag".

 

Under the mistaken belief that one vehicle now contained a gunman, authorisation to fire a missile is sought, and granted by superior officers. At 23:09 the first vehicle is struck, two minutes later the second, and at 23:13 the third final, fatal strike is launched.

Two words describe this piece of IMO garbage, bull and <deleted>.

 

misidentified one of the aid workers as a gunman, and claimed to have seen them enter one of the three WCK cars.

 

they saw that it's a rifle but at the end of the day it was a bag".

 

Must be incompetent if they don't know what they are looking at.

 

had misidentified one of the aid workers as a gunman

They can see human features at night, but unable to see the logos on the vehicles- pathetic excuse.

 

Since was an "assumption" sufficient to authorise a deadly strike? Is the IDF so incompetent that they don't require absolute certainty before killing people?

IMO more likely either it was deliberately done to kill people they knew to be aid workers, or they just don't care who they kill, and using this IMO pathetic piece of trash to try and excuse it.

 

They can't even get the story straight. If they saw only one "gunman" why did they destroy three vehicles? Did he clone himself?

 

Why didn't they radio the army on the ground to intercept the vehicles, but put missiles into them?

 

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More unbelievable IDF BS, but only to be expected.

 

One question I have is WHY was the drone operator tracking those 3 clearly marked as WCF cars in the first place?

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8 hours ago, Social Media said:

Under the mistaken belief that one vehicle now contained a gunman, authorisation to fire a missile is sought, and granted by superior officers. At 23:09 the first vehicle is struck, two minutes later the second, and at 23:13 the third final, fatal strike is launched.

 

I've been skeptical of IDF explanations since the USS Liberty incident (that's a long time), but I can't imagine it's a good idea to conduct aid deliveries after dark in a war zone.  Has anyone seen an explanation why they were out after dark?

 

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6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

As a former professional photographer, Im quite surprised evertime there is an situation, where clear quality photage would explain everything, and there is photage available, it is of very bad quality and blurry. Today where technology is cheap and available to everyone. But the most powerful armies in the world, have no access to such technology unfortunate 

It was from videos at night from drones................

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In the full OP article it mentions that video captured a gunman firing who was on top of one of the food trucks.

 

Summary bullet points.

 

WCK INCIDENT INVESTIGATION:

Major General (res.) Yoav Har-Evan led an independent investigation into the killing of seven World Central Kitchen workers in Gaza, with findings presented to IDF Chief of the General Staff, LTG Herzi Halevi.

1.The tragic incident occurred on April 1, 2024, during a World Central Kitchen humanitarian aid operation in Gaza.

2.Gunmen were identified among the humanitarian convoy, leading to misidentification of the vehicles as belonging to Hamas terrorists.

3.Three World Central Kitchen vehicles were mistakenly struck after separation from the food convoy.

4.The investigation concluded that the attack resulting in the death of seven aid workers was a grave mistake due to incorrect identification, decision-making errors, and non-compliance with SOPs.

5.Disciplinary measures were ordered, including dismissals and reprimands for commanders involved.

6.The IDF expressed deep sorrow and extended condolences to victims’ families and World Central Kitchen, emphasizing the importance of safeguarding humanitarian missions.

7.The incident highlights IDF’s commitment to avoiding civilian harm, adhering to laws of war, and combating Hxmas while respecting IDF values.

8.Lessons learned will be integrated into IDF operations to prevent similar mistakes.

9.The IDF remains committed to coordinating and assisting international aid organizations for their safety and humanitarian activities.

 

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1 minute ago, Danny Australia said:

This explanation of the WCK massacre is incredibly unbelievable and nonsensical.

 

It was widely anticipated that Israel would simply concoct the findings, but the sheer brazenness of their deception took everyone by surprise.

 

The international community should reject these findings, and a UN-led team should conduct a thorough reinvestigation into the massacre, with participation from Israel and all affected countries.

 

This report's absurdity is reminiscent of the infamous incident at Al- Shifa hospital where the IDF claimed an Arabic language day-of-the-week calendar was actually a schedule for Hamas fighters shifts) 😂.

 

This is the initial report, don't worry, when they've released the full report you can rant even more. Hold tight Danny, we know you hate the one percenters

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27 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Israel thinks the world is a herd of sheep by keeping insulting our intelligence with their ongoing blatant lies and deception. 

absolutely!

btw, anyone remember IDF attack on turkish flotilla (sea vessels) with cement and humanitarian aids on the way to Gaza? 

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2 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Rest assured that the ultimate findings will be equally concocted, stupid and deceiving.

 

In the past, the IDF's initial reports, like their initial report of the assassination of Al Jazeera's senior correspondent Shereen Abu Aqleh, were primarily aimed at gauging global reactions and criticisms before attempting addressing them in the final report.

 

The initial report is nothing but a tactic. Hold tight and wait for the soon coming bucket of unbelievable lies.

 

Says an outed vile anti-Semitic with his conspiracy theories

 

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1 minute ago, NativeBob said:

absolutely!

btw, anyone remember IDF attack on turkish flotilla (sea vessels) with cement and humanitarian aids on the way to Gaza? 

Yes, I remember that terrible massacre of the Turkish Flotilla called 'Marmarah' where special forces boarded the ship and gunned down 11 unarmed peace activist civilians.

 

I recall them in the report trying to justify the massacre by saying one of the men produced a knife.  A large team of special forces of IDF couldn't handle a knife!!

 

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6 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

absolutely!

btw, anyone remember IDF attack on turkish flotilla (sea vessels) with cement and humanitarian aids on the way to Gaza? 

 

    That's what happens when you try to enter a forbidden zone where you aren't allowed to pass without permission .

   If you sail a flotilla of boats into an enemies territory and refuse to stop , its quite likely that they would force you to stop .

  Also weren't the boats full of things that Palestinians didn't need or want ?

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A large team of special forces of IDF couldn't handle a knife!!

Yes, the keyword here ^^^ is special forces - those were commandos, not typical recruits or some sort of weekend worriers which might not be able to handle a knife.
Only Al Jazeera and Press TV gave complete picture of what happened. 

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1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Also weren't the boats full of things that Palestinians didn't need or want ?

yes, it was cement:
 

"why cement? who eat or drink cement? no, no need"

"why didn't you ask Palestinians do they want that cement?"

"isn't it obvious? who is going to eat or drink cement? Kapish?"

 

Hint: they needed cement to rebuild their houses demolished by guess who.

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5 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

Yes, the keyword here ^^^ is special forces - those were commandos, not typical recruits or some sort of weekend worriers which might not be able to handle a knife.
Only Al Jazeera and Press TV gave complete picture of what happened. 

It was deemed a legal blockade. They deliberately refused warnings. 

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7 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

Yes, I remember that terrible massacre of the Turkish Flotilla called 'Marmarah' where special forces boarded the ship and gunned down 11 unarmed peace activist civilians.

 

I recall them in the report trying to justify the massacre by saying one of the men produced a knife.  A large team of special forces of IDF couldn't handle a knife!!

 

 

   50 hardcore activists attacked 15 soldier with iron bars and firebombs , the activists took the soldiers guns and began beating them, severely beating them nearly to death and stabbing them and the soldiers opened fire to save their and their colleagues life's .

   Yet another complete misrepresentation of facts from you 

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6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    That's what happens when you try to enter a forbidden zone where you aren't allowed to pass without permission .

   If you sail a flotilla of boats into an enemies territory and refuse to stop , its quite likely that they would force you to stop .

  Also weren't the boats full of things that Palestinians didn't need or want ?

Remember genius to keep track of your own lies.  You and your crew keeps telling us that Israel withdrew from Gaza completely in 2005

 

Why then your IDF terrorists would interfere with a Turkish ship sailing from Turkey to Free Gaza?

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4 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

yes, it was cement:
 

"why cement? who eat or drink cement? no, no need"

"why didn't you ask Palestinians do they want that cement?"

"isn't it obvious? who is going to eat or drink cement? Kapish?"

 

Hint: they needed cement to rebuild their houses demolished by guess who.

Lol. So nothing to do with hundreds of miles of tunnels

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Just now, Danny Australia said:

Remember genius to keep track of your own lies. 

 

   You are lying .

I haven't told any lies .

The boats were in international waters .

You need to stop the  abuse and false accusations , its becoming a habit of yours now 

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4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   50 hardcore activists attacked 15 soldier with iron bars and firebombs , the activists took the soldiers guns and began beating them, severely beating them nearly to death and stabbing them and the soldiers opened fire to save their and their colleagues life's .

   Yet another complete misrepresentation of facts from you 

In your pathetic attempt at trying to justify yet another massacre, (as you always do), you unintentionally paint a picture of pathetic useless, spineless special force which easily gets disarmed and beaten by few civilians.

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hardcore activists with iron bars and firebombs. Sure, they were prepared and waiting ...

innocent young soldiers were beaten almost to death, their guns were taken, but they pronounced Tetragrammaton and got their guns back (from 50 hardcore activists and their softcore colleagues) and open fire. 


Humma Kavula !

 

PS: I think this topic goes nowhere. Suddenly open waters became a forbidden territory and most (one of) prepared commandos turn into a bunch of kittens (not exactly that word I mention).
What I do remember that escalation between Turkey and Israel became so toxic and hot that US had to use secret special channels to calm down Erdogan from doing something bad.

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Just now, Danny Australia said:

In your pathetic attempt at trying to justify yet another massacre, (as you always do), you unintentionally paint a picture of pathetic useless, spineless special force which easily gets disarmed and beaten by few civilians.

 

  The Israeli special forces were ordered  not to use lethal force unless their life's were in danger .

Three of the Israelis got attacked by 50 activists and the activists nearly beat the Israeli soldiers to death , more Israelis then bordered the boats and took control by force 

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3 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

Gaza aid convoy strike: What we know (bbc.com)

 

Al Jazeera frequently faces attacks and efforts to undermine its reporting by certain individuals, groups, forums or even states).

 

To Al Jazeera's credit, it was the first and only global media outlet to extensively report and substantiate that the WCK massacre involved deliberate multiple strikes, supported by eyewitness accounts, satellite data, landmarks, and GPS coordinates.

 

A few days later, here is the BBC has now reached the same conclusion that Al Jazeera previously reported.

The BBC report is based on the findings released by the IDF which you said were lies.....lol

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17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The BBC report is based on the findings released by the IDF which you said were lies.....lol

 

BBC report and IDF lies, in attempted justification of the massacre, are both based on indisputable and undeniable facts reported first by Al Jazeera.

 

If it was not for the Al Jazeera's outstanding professional reporting and investigative journalism, the IDF would have never in a million years admitted to the WCK multiple strikes massacre. 

 

Thanks to Al Jazeera, the IDF had to admit to the massacre having been caught red handed albeit tried to insert false fanciful unsupported lies about a lone gunman in justifying murdering 7 innocent lives.

 

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2 hours ago, Danny Australia said:

 

BBC report and IDF lies, in attempted justification of the massacre, are both based on indisputable and undeniable facts reported first by Al Jazeera.

 

If it was not for the Al Jazeera's outstanding professional reporting and investigative journalism, the IDF would have never in a million years admitted to the WCK multiple strikes massacre. 

 

Thanks to Al Jazeera, the IDF had to admit to the massacre having been caught red handed albeit tried to insert false fanciful unsupported lies about a lone gunman in justifying murdering 7 innocent lives.

 

If it was not for the Al Jazeera's outstanding professional reporting and investigative journalism, the IDF would have never in a million years admitted to the WCK multiple strikes massacre.

 

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