Can renew a passport while in overstay?

[Adrian78]

A passport is near the expire and need to be renewed as there are some issues to set up before fly back, pay the fine and be banned.

Will the Embassy renew it while in overstay? I know UK embassy will not do, but  not English.

Is not a right for anyone to have a new passport, no matter how is his/her status in the host country?

[proton]

Don't think so, why would they as you are here illegally?

[Adrian78]

3 minutes ago, proton said:

Don't think so, why would they as you are here illegally?

Just ask. I though that an Embassy has nothing to do with your status here. It's not their concern, I though. I can understand the UK Embassy has they don't do anymore and they use an outsource company.

[richard_smith237]

27 minutes ago, Adrian78 said:

A passport is near the expire and need to be renewed as there are some issues to set up before fly back, pay the fine and be banned.

Will the Embassy renew it while in overstay? I know UK embassy will not do, but  not English.

Is not a right for anyone to have a new passport, no matter how is his/her status in the host country?

 

Your question seems to be - Could HM Passport Office refuse to issue you with a renewed passport as an overseas citizen because of an overstay - thats a possibility.... (but not an answer I know)

But if they do refuse your existing Passport remains valid until expiry (and in your posession), so its still possible to fly out of Thailand, deal with the overstay at the airport and accept the ban etc.

 

The risk is someone from VFS checks the stamps and reports you (VFS is who the British Embassy outsource their Passport renewal to).

 

 

 

 

Follow on question: 

Are you attempting to 'renew' your passport under the assumption that this will clear an overstay ? - it won't Immigration have digital records and will tie any new passport into existing records through biometrics. 

 

 

Options:

1) Pay through the nose to an agent to clear the Overstay (risky and I don't even know if this is possible but guess it is if you find the right agent). 

2) Take the hit, fly out, pay the fine, accept the ban, return legally (any new passport will still be tied to the old one and information linked)

 

 

 

 

[Adrian78]

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Your question seems to be - Could HM Passport Office refuse to issue you with a renewed passport as an overseas citizen because of an overstay - thats a possibility.... (but not an answer I know)

But if they do refuse your existing Passport remains valid until expiry (and in your posession), so its still possible to fly out of Thailand, deal with the overstay at the airport and accept the ban etc.

 

The risk is someone from VFS checks the stamps and reports you (VFS is who the British Embassy outsource their Passport renewal to).

 

 

 

 

Follow on question: 

Are you attempting to 'renew' your passport under the assumption that this will clear an overstay ? - it won't Immigration have digital records and will tie any new passport into existing records through biometrics. 

 

 

Options:

1) Pay through the nose to an agent to clear the Overstay (risky and I don't even know if this is possible but guess it is if you find the right agent). 

2) Take the hit, fly out, pay the fine, accept the ban, return legally (any new passport will still be tied to the old one and information linked)

 

 

 

 

As I wrote I am not English. 

I don't want renew it to clear the overstay, but I must be here few more weeks to comply with some things to do and after fly out, get the ban and good bye Thailand. I no want renew it for clear my overstay. My time here is done forever, I just need it for few things to do.

[farang51]

This could be a long thread ...

 

Q: Are you German?

 

A: No, I am not German.

 

Q: Are you Israeli?

 

A: No, I am not Israeli.

 

...

 

Why don't you tell us which country, and then maybe someone would be able to answer your question.

 

By the way, If you want to travel to your home country directly from Thailand, you will probably be able to do so even if your passport expire.

[Maestro]

You did not mention your country, but I believe no country will refuse to issue a new passport because of an overstay in Thailand. 

 

However, some countries take weeks or months to deliver a new passport. One option for you could be to apply at your embassy or consulate for an emergency travel document once you know your departure date.  This document is usually issued within 24 hours.

[DrJack54]

7 hours ago, Adrian78 said:

I don't want renew it to clear the overstay, but I must be here few more weeks to comply with some things to do and after fly out, get the ban and good bye Thailand.

Being evasive doesn't help.

You mention few more weeks

I just renewed my pp (Oz) it took 20 days.

They stated to allow up to 6 weeks.

Back to your question. 

Yes you can renew your pp..

[Liquorice]

I'm assuming you have dual nationality and your British passport is due to expire ?

[Caldera]

9 hours ago, proton said:

Don't think so, why would they as you are here illegally?

 

Don't post nonsense. Any overstay in Thailand cannot be resolved without having a valid passport, so there you have your "why".

 

Many reports over the years of people on overstay getting a new passport first, before being able to leave. I don't recall even a single report of anyone being refused a new passport by their home country for being on overstay in Thailand. 

[d4dang]

I renewed my passport while overstayed but it was about 30 years ago. I went to Immi at Suan Plu to have my entry stamp put in my new passport. I was told I could go to court or go to the airport and pay 20,000 Baht. The fines at court were much less but you had to stay in the Immi detention center and you had to have a ticket and you would be escorted to the airport. I slept on the Immi officer's table in his office instead of the large cell and he drove me to the airport which was Don Muang.

I don't know how it would work for you. If you renew your passport and go to Immi with an agent in Pattaya it might be less than the fine at the airport but you need your old passport with your entry stamp and or visa.

Do some research.

 

[d4dang]

3 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

Don't post nonsense. Any overstay in Thailand cannot be resolved without having a valid passport, so there you have your "why".

 

Many reports over the years of people on overstay getting a new passport first, before being able to leave. I don't recall even a single report of anyone being refused a new passport by their home country for being on overstay in Thailand. 

Most airlines won't let you get on a flight without a valid passport. You can contact your airline to check.

[Photoguy21]

3 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

Don't post nonsense. Any overstay in Thailand cannot be resolved without having a valid passport, so there you have your "why".

 

Many reports over the years of people on overstay getting a new passport first, before being able to leave. I don't recall even a single report of anyone being refused a new passport by their home country for being on overstay in Thailand. 

Agreed you can always get a passport to get home but I would not think you could travel anywhere else but to your home country

[richard_smith237]

11 hours ago, Liquorice said:

I'm assuming you have dual nationality and your British passport is due to expire ?

 

Apparently...  He's no English, cos the UK Embassy will not do, but not English - so... not British then - so I've no idea why he even bothered mentioning that.... 

 

Impossible to offer assistance to someone incapable of articulating facts.... 

 

21 hours ago, Adrian78 said:

Will the Embassy renew it while in overstay? I know UK embassy will not do, but  not English.