PJ71 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Is there any benefit to doing this? I have a couple of bank accounts in uk but no property, should i make a will in UK ( i have one here with all Thai accounts and assets ). Would it be easier for wifey to get the UK assets with the marriage registered there? Been married for 20 years here, wife giving me OBE whilst sleeping very unlikely. Any input appreciated.
howerde Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) You can not register a Thai marriage in the UK, a Thai marriage certificate/translation is accepted by the UK. Edited April 23 by howerde wrong text 1 1
PJ71 Posted April 23 Author Posted April 23 1 minute ago, howerde said: You can not register a Thai marriage in the UK, a Thai marriage certificate/translation is all that is needed. Sorry, but a translation is needed for what exactly?
howerde Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Just now, PJ71 said: Sorry, but a translation is needed for what exactly? A translation of the Thai marriage certificate in to english, minimal cost in Thailand, if you have UK assets then i would get a UK will, you will need executer to carry out your wishes
PJ71 Posted April 23 Author Posted April 23 2 minutes ago, howerde said: A translation of the Thai marriage certificate in to english, minimal cost in Thailand, if you have UK assets then i would get a UK will, you will need executer to carry out your wishes Ok, so then where does this translation of Thai certificate need to get presented in uk, or it's just filed along with UK will?
howerde Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) You would need to speak to a lawyer, as to what is required, they might want to see the original marriage certificate and official translation, not sure they would accept copies, but will make life easy for your wife if all is done correctly now, hopefully someone who has done it will come up with the answer Also if you pass away in Thailand they are going to want death certificate/translation, if it goes to probate you need someone/ firm to do it, guess all depends on how much your assets are worth against the cost, of a UK lawyer dealing with it Edited April 23 by howerde missing text
DrJack54 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 21 minutes ago, PJ71 said: I have a couple of bank accounts in uk but no property, should i make a will in UK ( i have one here with all Thai accounts and assets ). Would it be easier for wifey to get the UK assets with the marriage registered there? Money only and no property. If not wanting to leave funds to anyone in UK best option is to transfer funds to Thailand. Surely not referring to serious money as it's in a bank. 2 1
PJ71 Posted April 23 Author Posted April 23 48 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Money only and no property. If not wanting to leave funds to anyone in UK best option is to transfer funds to Thailand. Surely not referring to serious money as it's in a bank. I don't want to send the funds to thailand as they're getting 5.5% interest in the uk which returns me approx 1m per year. 1 1
PJ71 Posted April 23 Author Posted April 23 56 minutes ago, howerde said: You would need to speak to a lawyer, as to what is required, they might want to see the original marriage certificate and official translation, not sure they would accept copies, but will make life easy for your wife if all is done correctly now, hopefully someone who has done it will come up with the answer Also if you pass away in Thailand they are going to want death certificate/translation, if it goes to probate you need someone/ firm to do it, guess all depends on how much your assets are worth against the cost, of a UK lawyer dealing with it Yeah thanks, i'll speak to some people in the uk about it.
Celsius Posted April 23 Posted April 23 58 minutes ago, PJ71 said: I don't want to send the funds to thailand as they're getting 5.5% interest in the uk which returns me approx 1m per year. minus 20% non resident tax? 1
PJ71 Posted April 23 Author Posted April 23 27 minutes ago, Celsius said: minus 20% non resident tax? I don't pay the tax. It's nothing to do with the banks, you're suppose to declare it, which i don't. 1
Celsius Posted April 23 Posted April 23 26 minutes ago, PJ71 said: I don't pay the tax. It's nothing to do with the banks, you're suppose to declare it, which i don't. Interesting. To get a interest bearing account, doesn't the bank require your UK tax id? Do banks automatically send all the information on interest earned to your UK government like they do in Canada? If the system is different I may as well open a UK bank account.
PJ71 Posted April 23 Author Posted April 23 21 minutes ago, Celsius said: Interesting. To get a interest bearing account, doesn't the bank require your UK tax id? Do banks automatically send all the information on interest earned to your UK government like they do in Canada? If the system is different I may as well open a UK bank account. The bank requires nothing from me. In theory i'm tax domicile, not a uk resident but holding a uk address.
Griffo63 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 On 4/23/2024 at 9:56 AM, PJ71 said: I don't want to send the funds to thailand as they're getting 5.5% interest in the uk which returns me approx 1m per year. I think you need to get some very specialist advice. Getting £1,000,000 per annum interest equates to capital over £18,000,000. If that is really the case of course!! 1
PETERTHEEATER Posted April 24 Posted April 24 You can register your Thai marriage in the UK under the Foreign Marriages Act.
PJ71 Posted April 24 Author Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Griffo63 said: I think you need to get some very specialist advice. Getting £1,000,000 per annum interest equates to capital over £18,000,000. If that is really the case of course!! 1,000,000 baht interest.
Andycoops Posted April 24 Posted April 24 Proper legal marriage in Thailand is recognised by the UK. There is no requirement as I understand it to register it with the UK government. I have registered my legal Thai marriage with my company pension provider because my wife is entitled to 50% of it per month when I die. This is also included in my Thai will along with my UK bank accounts.
PJ71 Posted April 24 Author Posted April 24 1 hour ago, PETERTHEEATER said: You can register your Thai marriage in the UK under the Foreign Marriages Act. How does one do this? Thanks
sandyf Posted April 24 Posted April 24 On 4/23/2024 at 8:47 AM, howerde said: You can not register a Thai marriage in the UK, a Thai marriage certificate/translation is accepted by the UK. You need to be a little careful on the wording. There was a time when you could deposit the marriage certificate with the General Registry Office(GRO) through the British Embassy in Bangkok. I did it in 2008. I should point out it was a deposit rather than a registration, as you say the UK will recognise a legal marriage in Thailand. I think the embassy stopped handling GRO deposits in 2012 but not sure if you can still deal with the GRO direct. In reality not a great deal to be gained but you did get an annotated copy of the deposit with the GRO seal which over the years has been very useful in visa applications for my wife.
sandyf Posted April 24 Posted April 24 38 minutes ago, PJ71 said: How does one do this? Thanks Looks like it has come to an end. From 1 January 2014, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) has discontinued its service of depositing foreign marriage and civil partnership certificates with General Register Offices in the UK. https://www.tameside.gov.uk/registrars/births-deaths-marriages-abroad#:~:text=From 1 January 2014%2C the,Register Offices in the UK.
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