Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[Mavideol]

birds of the feather flock together, the 2 biggest dictators in the world trying to duplicate Nato concept in Asia but they claim the contrary. China vs Russia or Russia vs China it's a hate and love old story, their principle is... if you can't fight them, just join them ... until it all fall

 Ukraine war: Why China is conducting military exercises in Belarus

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-war-why-china-conducting-110710614.html

 

 

[Mavideol]

never trust this guy Modi...but he's playing smart, he's having trouble fighting/arguing with China grabbing some rocks in the Himalayas, thus knowing Xi and Vlad are friends he's using Putin trying to have him decide in which side he stands

What Modi and Putin hope to gain from their Moscow summit

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/modi-putin-hope-gain-moscow-143929089.html

[Mavideol]

how convenient that is... Putin takes Ukraine and some Baltic States and Xi takes Philippines, Taiwan, some Malaysia & Indonesia islands, while there some Japanese ones as well, all has been worked out backstage, but Xi claims to be neutral, and he's a peacemaker

Xi calls for Ukraine ceasefire as Hungary's Orban makes surprise stop in China

https://au.yahoo.com/finance/news/xi-calls-ukraine-ceasefire-hungarys-093000067.html

 

[Mavideol]

Hypocrite MF... double face, saying something like that and at the same time hugging the biggest assassin in the world

 

'Heart bleeds' when children killed, Modi tells Putin

https://au.yahoo.com/news/indias-modi-meets-dear-friend-084456849.html

 

[rabas]

Bad news => worse.  Bloomberg

 

 

For reference

[Bkk Brian]

Whether you support his politics or not, he's made the right decision here to carry on from the Tories.

 

Keir Starmer signaled Ukraine can use Britain’s Storm Shadow missiles to strike military targets inside Russia, confirming he would continue the previous UK government’s policy on the use of its long-range weapons in the Russia-Ukraine war.
Starmer agreed that it was up to Ukraine how it used the Storm Shadow missiles donated by the UK when asked by a Bloomberg reporter. He was speaking to journalists while traveling to the NATO summit in Washington on Tuesday evening.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-10/starmer-says-ukraine-can-use-uk-missiles-to-strike-inside-russia

https://archive.ph/bvcjT

[Mavideol]

49 minutes ago, rabas said:

Bad news => worse.  Bloomberg

 

 

For reference

maybe that's why he called in Modi, India was a good customer for discounted price crude

[Bkk Brian]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:59 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Do that and expect a Russian missile attack on Poland.

You think they don't expect something like that?

 

As for the planes, we'll have to wait and see if they are of any more use than the much lauded Leopards that were going to win the war for Ukraine.

 

 

I suspect that those sort of missiles are rather pricey, and the countries that supply them do not have a money tree. I assume they will not be in an unlimited supply. I also assume they won't be allowed to attack targets in Russia- MAD would be an unfortunate result.

 

Also, if they do use such, expect more of the OP in response.

Good news thaibeachlovers 

 

New Zealand commits further $16m to support Ukraine

The coalition government has committed a further $16 million in support for Ukraine, bringing New Zealand's total financial aid contribution since 2022 to more than $130m.

The prime minister and Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters made the announcement at the start of Christopher Luxon's four-day visit to the United States.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/521727/new-zealand-commits-further-16m-to-support-ukraine

[Jingthing]

41 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Good news thaibeachlovers 

 

New Zealand commits further $16m to support Ukraine

The coalition government has committed a further $16 million in support for Ukraine, bringing New Zealand's total financial aid contribution since 2022 to more than $130m.

The prime minister and Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters made the announcement at the start of Christopher Luxon's four-day visit to the United States.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/521727/new-zealand-commits-further-16m-to-support-ukraine

Avenge the Ukraine children's hospital victims of Russian state terror!

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

maybe that's why he called in Modi, India was a good customer for discounted price crude

Modi may his name live forever in infamy.

[Seppius]

Not a fan of Starmer UKs new PM, but have to say well done on this

 

"Russia vows to retaliate if UK allows Kyiv to strike its territory with Storm Shadow missiles after Starmer insisted 'it is for Ukraine to decide' how to use the long-range weaponsW

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13619421/Russia-vows-retaliate-UK-allows-Kyiv-strike-territory-Storm-Shadow-missiles-Starmer-insisted-Ukraine-decide-use-long-range-weapons.html

 

Maybe he will be wartime PM

[tgw]

1 minute ago, Seppius said:

Not a fan of Starmer UKs new PM, but have to say well done on this

 

"Russia vows to retaliate if UK allows Kyiv to strike its territory with Storm Shadow missiles after Starmer insisted 'it is for Ukraine to decide' how to use the long-range weaponsW

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13619421/Russia-vows-retaliate-UK-allows-Kyiv-strike-territory-Storm-Shadow-missiles-Starmer-insisted-Ukraine-decide-use-long-range-weapons.html

 

Maybe he will be wartime PM

 

nah, Ruzzia likes to retaliate against weaker than them. Or at least against who they believe to be weaker than them, like all bullies. So it will retaliate by killing more innocent civilians, preferably babies, and if they can't strike babies, then they will do with women and children. That's Putin's Ruzzia.

[Seppius]

17 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

nah, Ruzzia likes to retaliate against weaker than them. Or at least against who they believe to be weaker than them, like all bullies. So it will retaliate by killing more innocent civilians, preferably babies, and if they can't strike babies, then they will do with women and children. That's Putin's Ruzzia.

He would be mad to hit UK, a NATO country,he knows that, it would be his end, but I am pleased Starmer has got tough on him

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, Seppius said:

Not a fan of Starmer UKs new PM, but have to say well done on this

 

"Russia vows to retaliate if UK allows Kyiv to strike its territory with Storm Shadow missiles after Starmer insisted 'it is for Ukraine to decide' how to use the long-range weaponsW

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13619421/Russia-vows-retaliate-UK-allows-Kyiv-strike-territory-Storm-Shadow-missiles-Starmer-insisted-Ukraine-decide-use-long-range-weapons.html

 

Maybe he will be wartime PM

Maybe he will be wartime PM

 

Sounds like that is what you want. Ask someone actually been in one if it's a good idea.

 

Lots of people die in a war, and lots of destruction happens as well. Do you want that on the British people?

 

 

Starmer insisted 'it is for Ukraine to decide' how to use the long-range weapons

 

Another reason to regret his win. I despise warmongers, and this is what warmongering looks like IMO. When Russia retaliates against Britain will he be sending what is left of the British army to go die in Ukraine?

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, Seppius said:

He would be mad to hit UK, a NATO country,he knows that, it would be his end, but I am pleased Starmer has got tough on him

Please explain just how Starmer is getting "tough"? All he has done is give the people dying more options to use British weapons, which will result in more Ukrainians dying.

Starmer leading his troops into battle would be "getting tough", but we all know that if it all goes wrong for Britain, he'll be hiding in some shelter while other people die.

 

 

BTW, he doesn't have to physically attack Britain to get revenge. All he has to do is a cyber attack of some sort, which causes chaos in Britain but isn't sufficient to activate MAD.

Edited July 10 by thaibeachlovers

[thaibeachlovers]

It just gets worse. Some people should learn not to say things that will only make Putin more determined to defeat Ukraine. It's like the numpty doesn't understand what the war was started over.

https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/28/nato-chief-says-ukraine-will-join-the-military-alliance-subject-to-reforms-after-the-war

Ukraine will become a member of NATO subject to reforms after the war, the military alliance’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, said on Monday.

[stevenl]

17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It just gets worse. Some people should learn not to say things that will only make Putin more determined to defeat Ukraine. It's like the numpty doesn't understand what the war was started over.

https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/28/nato-chief-says-ukraine-will-join-the-military-alliance-subject-to-reforms-after-the-war

Ukraine will become a member of NATO subject to reforms after the war, the military alliance’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, said on Monday.

Agree with you that certain things are better not said.

But claiming he's a numpty that doesn't understand the reasons for this war? Good to see we have an anonymous poster on a Thailand forum who knows better.

[ChicagoExpat]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Agree with you that certain things are better not said.

But claiming he's a numpty that doesn't understand the reasons for this war? Good to see we have an anonymous poster on a Thailand forum who knows better.

The wonderful thing is, @thaibeachlovers FREQUENTLY cries about other people insulting him, yes does it himself all the time.  And then uses that really cool coffee drinking emoji.

Edited July 11 by ChicagoExpat

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

Agree with you that certain things are better not said.

But claiming he's a numpty that doesn't understand the reasons for this war? Good to see we have an anonymous poster on a Thailand forum who knows better.

Try reading what I actually said before telling us what you think I said. I never said he didn't understand. Do you understand what "It's like" means in context?

IMO he's a war monger that will never be a combatant himself ( he'll be miles and miles behind the lines ), and IMO warmongers are numpties ( being polite ).

[Rimmer]

Transfer Of F-16s To Ukraine Is Now Underway

 

The long-anticipated transfer of donated F-16 Vipers to Ukraine is now underway with the anticipation they will be operational this summer, U.S., Danish, and Dutch officials say.

 

https://www.twz.com/news-features/transfer-of-f-16s-to-ukraine-is-now-underway

 

 

[Seppius]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Maybe he will be wartime PM

 

Sounds like that is what you want. Ask someone actually been in one if it's a good idea.

 

Lots of people die in a war, and lots of destruction happens as well. Do you want that on the British people?

 

 

Starmer insisted 'it is for Ukraine to decide' how to use the long-range weapons

 

Another reason to regret his win. I despise warmongers, and this is what warmongering looks like IMO. When Russia retaliates against Britain will he be sending what is left of the British army to go die in Ukraine?

We are in a phony war already

 

"The Phoney War was an eight-month period at the start of World War II during which there was only one limited military land operation on the Western Fron"

 

"I despise warmongers"

 

So condemn Putin

 

 

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, Seppius said:

We are in a phony war already

 

"The Phoney War was an eight-month period at the start of World War II during which there was only one limited military land operation on the Western Fron"

 

"I despise warmongers"

 

So condemn Putin

 

 

He can't. 

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Try reading what I actually said before telling us what you think I said. I never said he didn't understand. Do you understand what "It's like" means in context?

IMO he's a war monger that will never be a combatant himself ( he'll be miles and miles behind the lines ), and IMO warmongers are numpties ( being polite ).

Yeah and Churchill and FDR were "warmongers" too and thank God for that!

[Jingthing]

13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It just gets worse. Some people should learn not to say things that will only make Putin more determined to defeat Ukraine. It's like the numpty doesn't understand what the war was started over.

https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/28/nato-chief-says-ukraine-will-join-the-military-alliance-subject-to-reforms-after-the-war

Ukraine will become a member of NATO subject to reforms after the war, the military alliance’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, said on Monday.

The war was started over war criminal fascist dictator Putin's determination to erase Ukraine which he is on record as thinking has never existed as a nation separate to Russ. Nothing to do with NATO. Ask Sweden and Finland.

[Jingthing]

20 hours ago, tgw said:

 

nah, Ruzzia likes to retaliate against weaker than them. Or at least against who they believe to be weaker than them, like all bullies. So it will retaliate by killing more innocent civilians, preferably babies, and if they can't strike babies, then they will do with women and children. That's Putin's Ruzzia.

Yes so many naive people still don't get it.

Putin is about erasing Ukraine as a nation entirely, making it's people slaves of Russ and soldiers for further expansion, or failing that, leveling Ukraine to dust and killing all it's people that aren't willing to be slaves.

[Danderman123]

From what I can tell, the Russians counter-attacked in Vovchansk and rescued their soldiers.

[tgw]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

From what I can tell, the Russians counter-attacked in Vovchansk and rescued their soldiers.

 

I hope they didn't, but let's wait for definitive information.

[tgw]

 

[tgw]

today: 64 F-16 arrived in Ukraine

in a week or so we will hear from Ruzzian trolls : "we destroyed 72894 F-16 !"

 

I obviously made the numbers up, but you get the gist.

[tgw]

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/07/9/7464863/

 

 

the article is also available in Russian.

maybe an easier read for some habitual posters here.

 

Edited July 11 by tgw