5 year multiple entry DTV visa (Destination Thailand) from 2024-xx-xx

[Rob Browder]

18 hours ago, AreYouGerman said:

Can one apply for the DTV in any embassy or does it have to be of the passport country?

Some Thai embassies limit visas based on residents - including for Tourist Visas, in some cases. 
The DTV has been successfully obtained in Vientiane and Phnom Penh by non-residents/citizens.

[Rob Browder]

6 hours ago, parallelman said:

Is DTV a one time Visa or can a second be obtained after the first expires?

Impossible to know Thai Visa policy that far in advance.  At best, one can hope to be "grandfathered" on an unbroken-series extensions-of-stay, as that happened in the past, in some (not all) cases.

[Rob Browder]

16 minutes ago, DEKEM said:

... there will probably be MILLIONS of people wanting to take advantage of this since people as young as 20 can apply.  can you imagine what will happen if the numbers coming in grow over 50 million?  china and india both together there are 3B people.  california could send over all the homeless they have to alleviate the problem there.

MOST Americans cannot find $1K USD (~35K Baht) cash in an emergency - much less the homeless - so won't have 500K Baht worth of savings to show.  The same is true, at a higher %, for other, poorer countries. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 hour ago, DEKEM said:

do what I am going to do..  wait a year to see what happens.  I am guessing.  but I think many issues will pop up.  so, this DV animal might not be around soon.  for one thing, all the elite visa people will get pissed off.  and then, there will probably be MILLIONS of people wanting to take advantage of this since people as young as 20 can apply.  can you imagine what will happen if the numbers coming in grow over 50 million?  china and india both together there are 3B people.  california could send over all the homeless they have to alleviate the problem there.

Not sure where you're getting this from. California could not "send over all the homeless" because people have to apply for this individually, supply all the necessary information, show proof of funds, employment etc. There's almost no way that homeless people are going to meet the necessary criteria. For starters, many (if not most) of them won't even have current passports, let alone sufficient funds.

 

As for millions of people coming on these visas, I'd say that's highly unlikely. Even if there might technically be millions of people that could qualify, not all those with the money, employment etc that are required, are going to want to come to Thailand.

[bbi1]

With a DTV visa you are allowed to stay a max of 180 days per years for 5 years at a cost of 10k baht for the DTV visa. For the other 185 days of each year are you able to come into Thailand visa exempt and still have your DTV valid? Eg. use your 180 DTV, fly out after 180 days then fly back in visa exempt the next day or a few days after?

[farang51]

13 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

With a DTV visa you are allowed to stay a max of 180 days per years for 5 years at a cost of 10k baht for the DTV visa. For the other 185 days of each year are you able to come into Thailand visa exempt and still have your DTV valid? Eg. use your 180 DTV, fly out after 180 days then fly back in visa exempt the next day or a few days after?

 

You can use a DTV to stay for up to a year without leaving Thailand by getting one extension at the local immigration. Then you can leave Thailand and re-enter (perhaps immediately, perhaps after 1 day abroad) and you can stay another year - and so forth until the visa expires after five years.

[Mike Teavee]

26 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

With a DTV visa you are allowed to stay a max of 180 days per years for 5 years at a cost of 10k baht for the DTV visa. For the other 185 days of each year are you able to come into Thailand visa exempt and still have your DTV valid? Eg. use your 180 DTV, fly out after 180 days then fly back in visa exempt the next day or a few days after?

 

You cannot enter Thailand Visa Exempt if you have a valid Visa in your Passport BUT this doesn't matter with the DTV as it's Multi-Entry Visa so every time you enter Thailand you will be given a 180 Day permission to stay.

 

FWIW I read somewhere (can't find it now) that one of the MFA guys said you had to spend at least 1 night outside of Thailand before returning & in a recent Integrity Legal video one of the Laos borders was reportedly insisting on 2 days outside of the country before you could re-enter Thailand.  

Edited August 31 by Mike Teavee

[treetops]

6 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

FWIW I read somewhere (can't find it now) that one of the MFA guys said you had to spend at least 1 night outside of Thailand before returning & in a recent Integrity Legal video one of the Laos borders was reportedly insisting on 2 days outside of the country before you could re-enter Thailand.

 

The MFA guy interviewed by "Retired Working For You" on youtube mentioned the one day out IIRC.

 

The two days out rule is not specific to DTVs but any border run at specific crossings, according to this thread:

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1336345-lao-borders-some-at-least-now-requiring-overnight-stay/

 

[Sumiyoshicho]

On 8/30/2024 at 10:16 AM, Jmacs said:

Has any stock ,share ,currency traders applied for DTV ?

On FB Thai DTV/Visa sites i have read reports of success as online traders. 

[Rob Browder]

11 hours ago, bbi1 said:

With a DTV visa you are allowed to stay a max of 180 days per years for 5 years at a cost of 10k baht for the DTV visa.

No, you receive a permitted stay of 180 days "per-entry" ongoing for 5 years - so can border-bounce for another 180-day permitted stay.  You might have to stay out a night before returning, between 180-day permitted-stays.

[Briggsy]

I applied for a DTV on the E-visa website (London Embassy) and the credit card did a security check due to the £300 fee. After I had completed the check, the bank told me to try to pay again after 10 minutes.

 

However, there is no option to pay any more on the e-visa site. It just appears to be stuck on pending payment.

 

Has anybody encountered this situation?

 

Scratch that. I worked it out. 😜

Edited August 31 by Briggsy

[moana]

Another success from Vientiane. Super happy to be rid of my non-o woes.

 

Appointments are easy to get if you keep the website open and wait for them to release some slots. I booked mine just 3 days before arriving. My first application was accepted at the window but later rejected because the reviewing officer wanted to see an additional bank statement that shows my "salary" going into the account.

 

I was able to get a next-day appointment (!) and submit everything they wanted. Result:

 

[alw22]

Has anyone been rejected yet for a remote working DTV?

(Not just asked for more documentation that you couldn't provide, but flat out rejected with no recourse.)

 

I'm going a on 2 weeks of "Pending Approval" status and starting to wonder what's up.

[shdmn]

On 8/29/2024 at 10:40 PM, Sum Ting Wong said:

I have a feeling in 5 years this visa will be discontinued 

And if you applied in the digital nomad category they will have a record of that, questioning you every time you try enter as a tourist.  Most likely forcing a lot of people to get that expensive digital nomad visa.  

Edited September 3 by shdmn

[Pickwick]

4 hours ago, moana said:

My first application was accepted at the window but later rejected because the reviewing officer wanted to see an additional bank statement that shows my "salary" going into the account.

Could you expand on that please? What 'salary' did he want to see? I thought the only requirement was a statement showing 500,000 baht in the account at time of application?

[farang51]

33 minutes ago, alw22 said:

Has anyone been rejected yet for a remote working DTV?

(Not just asked for more documentation that you couldn't provide, but flat out rejected with no recourse.)

 

I'm going a on 2 weeks of "Pending Approval" status and starting to wonder what's up.

 

Maybe you applied a long time before your travel date? Some embassies do not like that so they take their time. Mine took 18 days at the Danish Embassy, travel date October 1st. I applied August 5th.

[moana]

18 hours ago, Pickwick said:

What 'salary' did he want to see? I thought the only requirement was a statement showing 500,000 baht in the account at time of application?

Showing ฿500k wasn't the issue. I provided a statement + balance confirmation from my HYSA showing significantly more than required.

 

I applied under the workcation category. In order to prove that I work remotely, according to the consulate's own website, I needed to provide an employment contract OR an employment certificate OR a portfolio of clients. I provided a stamped+signed certificate from one of my customers AND a contract with that customer AND invoices to the customer.

 

Apparently this stack of documents still wasn't tall enough, so it was rejected and my ฿10k was refunded (best thing about applying in person - they refund your fee!). I was told the officer wants to see a bank statement showing those invoices being paid into my checking account. It wasn't an unreasonable request, I guess, but it just wasn't a requirement anywhere I looked earlier. Oh well.

 

Other than that unwarranted (imo) initial rejection, I have to say the experience at the consulate is... lovely. No huge lines (6-7 people at most whenever I was there, and I arrived at my leisure way after they open the gates), no standing in the sun/rain endlessly, consulate employees are helpful and calm. Very relaxed and enjoyable in comparison to pre-appointment years.

Edited September 4 by moana

[Tim K]

Embassy at Phnom Penh will launch e-visa in October.

 

Got my DTV today, will post everything on Friday from PC.

[wisemonkey]

I must have been living under a rock not knowing about this visa.

I went to this agent I was used to help me get my Non-Imm O before, trying to get the same thing now mine has expired and just found out about the DTV.

 

As far as I can see its going to be around 30k total (10k visa, 10k travel, 10k visa agent fees) , but then you basically only need to do a visa run once every year (as in leave country after every 180 days and come straight back) for the next 5 years! this just seems too good to be true, would love not to worry about 90 day runs and extensions and days at immigration like Im doing now.

 

The start of this thread seems a little confusing with people having different interpretations of how the visa will work, Am I right in my thinking that its just like any multi-entry, so you can come back and forth as many times as you want over the 5 years. Any 1 stay can be max 180 days, but then you can just do a boarder run and come back for the rest of the year and do the same thing when that 180 days expires.

 

Seems like a no brainer for me to go for this one.

 

My question is have I got this right, as in its not 180 days a year and then you need to leave for the rest of the year, as in what some posts were saying at the beginning of this thread.

 

Also has anyone had experience obtaining this visa with a good agent here in Chiang Mai?

Edited September 5 by wisemonkey

[Caldera]

3 hours ago, wisemonkey said:

As far as I can see its going to be around 30k total (10k visa, 10k travel, 10k visa agent fees)

 

You seem to know that you'll need to apply for this visa outside of Thailand, because you've included travel expenses.

 

So I'm wondering why you've also included visa agent fees - how can an agent based in Chiang Mai assist you to obtain such a DTV from a Thai embassy or consulate abroad?

 

Personally, I think for those who qualify for a non-immigrant visa, it's best to stay with that option. The DTV is mostly interesting for people who didn't qualify for any longterm visa previously - unmarried ones below the age of 50 who wish to spend more time in Thailand without a need to seek employment because they have funds or income from abroad.

Edited September 5 by Caldera

[farang51]

37 minutes ago, Caldera said:

Personally, I think for those who qualify for a non-immigrant visa, it's best to stay with that option. The DTV is mostly interesting for people who didn't qualify for any longterm visa previously - unmarried ones below the age of 50 who wish to spend more time in Thailand without a need to seek employment because they have funds or income from abroad.

 

For me, the DTV is both easier and cheaper than NON-O based on retirement. I am a winter bird and with the DTV I do not need to leave Thailand after 90 days; and the price of the DTV is the same for five years as two years for the NON-O. It is also easier to get the DTV (if you meet the requirements) as there are fewer documents you need to supply.

[Rob Browder]

12 hours ago, wisemonkey said:

...
I went to this agent I was used to help me get my Non-Imm O before, trying to get the same thing now mine has expired and just found out about the DTV.

 

...

Also has anyone had experience obtaining this visa with a good agent here in Chiang Mai?

If getting extensions in-country after 180 days, vs going on a border-run, you might need to pay an agent for the extension, depending on your reason for obtaining the visa, and whatever (currently unknown) paperwork immigration will require.

 

But, yes, per your question, it is a normal "multi-entry" visa.  Based on the current rules, any entry-hassles would be of the same sort faced by those with METVs, Visa-Exempt entries, etc - only needing agent-assistance at "known-problem" entry points.

 

I would like to hear how the visa-agent you spoke to is arranging thins.  I am guessing it would be based on "soft power" (cooking schools, etc), or similar?  Do they just prepare the paperwork / arrange with the "class" or whatever (the 10K Baht) - then you take that to Vientiane or Savannahket?

[alw22]

I noticed on my DTV e-visa, it says under "Remarks": "Passport valid until 15April2028" (which is correct).

I should still be able to enter with this e-visa at that point as long as I bring the old passport along with the new one, right?  Nothing needs to be done to update the e-visa?

[shdmn]

Anyone know what happens when my passport expires with the DTV eVisa?  Not talking about a sticker in the passport but the separate eVisa PDF I print out.  It has my passport ID# on it and I will need to get a new one next year.  I can certainly bring my old one with me, but will I be able to go into immigration and get my existing eVisa updated with the new passport ID# so that I don't have to do that for the next 4 years?

Edited September 5 by shdmn

[Chalky0w]

22 minutes ago, alw22 said:

I noticed on my DTV e-visa, it says under "Remarks": "Passport valid until 15April2028" (which is correct).

I should still be able to enter with this e-visa at that point as long as I bring the old passport along with the new one, right?  Nothing needs to be done to update the e-visa?

Interesting. My passport expires in 2028 as well but nothing mentioned as a remark. Was going to ask immigration about that closer to the time but think others have said that normally you just show old passport with new passport and visa printout.

 

Under remarks, mine shows “Employment Prohibited” which I assumed meant employment with a Thai company and not that I can’t do my own work given I applied as a remote worker (rather than soft power).

Edited September 5 by Chalky0w

[alw22]

1 hour ago, Chalky0w said:

Under remarks, mine shows “Employment Prohibited” which I assumed meant employment with a Thai company and not that I can’t do my own work given I applied as a remote worker (rather than soft power).

 

I guess the agent can write whatever he wants.   My remarks section only mentions the passport expiry and says "Digital Nomad", which I don't think is an official term used anywhere else.

[Tim K]

Submitted at P-P on Wednesday 28 Aug

Documents:

1) form
note I did not choose any type of visa, cause the form is old and doesn't have DTV option.
Purpose of visit left empty too.
I thought they would help me to choose the correct option but nobody cared. It is not tourist visa  but again no other viable option was there.
2) photo


3) printed e-statement from thai kasikorn bank (6 months), via KPlus app


4) receipt dated 3 Aug from small dental clinic for some dental work, with a note
that next dental appointment will be 21 Sep
making a mold for dentures and next 21 Oct fitting the freshly made dentures
wet stamp and signed by cashier. I do really need the dentures, all was real.

5) Tax slip for clinic license for current year 2567 (printed in color)
 

Except #4 everything else was not signed or stamped

These I gave to a man sitting in the booth outside. He does basic pre-check of your docs,
staples papers together and gives you queue number. Booth opens at 8-45.

Next you go next door to the main office. Wait until 9-00 when they start accepting applications.
 

6) I was asked to provide a copy of first passport page, 
which I immediately pulled out of my backpack. Meaning that pre-check is very very basic.
 

7) 400$, problem was that my 4 x 100$ bills were old (2006 series) and rejected!

I was told to go across the street to the BIDC bank and change my old bills to new ones.
They did help me at the bank, went back, paid, and got visa slip.

That was it!
 

Waited until 4 Sep 15-00, went in, showed my slip, got my passport
with a shiny new "feel-like-a-Boss" visa)

Thai remark says "passport will expire 18.04.2029" 
like it does not say this on the main page already, oh well.
 

5 Sep flew to DMK, somewhat young lady at passport control had a bit of a problem and started to call older man for help
( I assume saw my ED from 2022, 
    then 2 stamps in a row Apr-Jul Jul-Sep and thought I was a trouble maker)
and then found my DTV I presume and said aah it's ok now.

couple more minutes of head scratching and the older man helped her to get the 6-month stamp with a correct date.
DONE, no questions whatsoever.

After that I said in thai ( I waited for this type of visa for 7 years, and today finally got it, yay!
She gave me a thumbs up and said "your passport will expire before the visa").

Edited September 5 by Tim K

[bbi1]

Is the DTC cost meant to be only 10k baht, which is approximately AUD$440?

 

The Thai Embassy in Australia is charging AUD$600 which is approximately 13,600 baht: https://canberra.thaiembassy.org/destination-thailand-visa-dtv/

Edited September 6 by bbi1

[lapamita]

30 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

Is the DTC cost meant to be only 10k baht, which is approximately AUD$440?

 

The Thai Embassy in Australia is charging AUD$600 which is approximately 13,600 baht: https://canberra.thaiembassy.org/destination-thailand-visa-dtv/

and PP is charge 400 usd same14000 thb

[bbi1]

11 minutes ago, lapamita said:

and PP is charge 400 usd same14000 thb

These embassies are price gouging to get a few extra bucks into their pockets.

 

USD$400 = 13,440 baht = AUD$594 - when using Google to convert it over.

Edited September 6 by bbi1