Trump found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records

[Elkski]

How can any black people support trump or military is beyond me.   Its tribalism is the only explanation. 

[Walker88]

11 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 oh stop with the BS, the msm media, Killary, numerous politicians, talk show hosts, celebs, all claimed that Russia rigged the election and trump was in illegitimate president,  and were alloowed to voice it any where they wanted, trump was banned from social media, and any discussion on the matter was also removed. 

STFU trying to argue over semantics. THEY BOTH CLAIMED THE ELECTION WAS RIGGED.

Trump did not try and overturn the result, he questioned it, sought clarification, and rightly so.

people like you are the cause of the division that happening today

 

Russia DID help the convicted felon in 2016, and his campaign willfully cooperated with them. That isn't just my opinion, but also the opinion of Republicans who led the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) and who issued their own 1000 page report on it after Mueller was done.

 

Did that make him win? Cannot say.

 

The fact Putin also funded the campaign of far left tree hugger Jill Stein helped, too, though not enough for HRC to lose the Electoral College. Putin had learned from Perot '92 and Nader '00 that a 3rd Party candidate tends to take votes away from only one of the major Party candidates (just as RFK, Jr will do to the Repub this year). Hillary's margin of loss in WI and MI was less than the number of votes Stein got in those States, and it is a virtual certainty Stein only took votes from Hillary.

 

The Manafort Spain trip during his first week as Campaign Manager, where he gave GRU asset Konstantin Kilimnik detailed internal polling data from the campaign is direct cooperation. Kilimnik passed the data to the GRU's Internet Research Agency arm, and they microtargeted voters in key swing States with fake stories about Hillary, such as "Uranium One" and about her health.

 

Was it enough for the convicted felon to win? That can never be known, but it was direct cooperation between Russia and the campaign, just as even the Republican Senate said.

 

Here's a Moscow dinner before the 2016 election with Stein, Mike Flynn & Putin:

 

[Roo Island]

28 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 oh stop with the BS, the msm media, Killary, numerous politicians, talk show hosts, celebs, all claimed that Russia rigged the election and trump was in illegitimate president,  and were alloowed to voice it any where they wanted, trump was banned from social media, and any discussion on the matter was also removed. 

STFU trying to argue over semantics. THEY BOTH CLAIMED THE ELECTION WAS RIGGED.

Trump did not try and overturn the result, he questioned it, sought clarification, and rightly so.

people like you are the cause of the division that happening today

 

Link...

[gravity101]

53 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

This was part of infrastructure bill.

Buttigieg kicks off building of high-speed rail line (spectrumlocalnews.com)
 

Buttigieg is an absolute professional and hopefully a future leader. He's a diamond in a sea of useless politicians.

Shame he's so derided for his sexual orientation by the insecure.

[candide]

31 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Link proving the election was rigged by Russia. Interfere? Yes. They are not fully to blame. Link?

 

Trump was bounced from social media due to his lies.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I never claimed the election was rigged by Russian interference. I said there was a Russian interference ( see Mueller report and GOP Senste commission report). No one is able to measure its effect.

[Roo Island]

19 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Strange how you operate.

 

You demand links of proof from others but fail to provide links of proof when asked.

 

 

You must have a poor memory

[Roo Island]

4 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Russia DID help the convicted felon in 2016, and his campaign willfully cooperated with them. That isn't just my opinion, but also the opinion of Republicans who led the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) and who issued their own 1000 page report on it after Mueller was done.

 

Did that make him win? Cannot say.

 

The fact Putin also funded the campaign of far left tree hugger Jill Stein helped, too, though not enough for HRC to lose the Electoral College. Putin had learned from Perot '92 and Nader '00 that a 3rd Party candidate tends to take votes away from only one of the major Party candidates (just as RFK, Jr will do to the Repub this year). Hillary's margin of loss in WI and MI was less than the number of votes Stein got in those States, and it is a virtual certainty Stein only took votes from Hillary.

 

The Manafort Spain trip during his first week as Campaign Manager, where he gave GRU asset Konstantin Kilimnik detailed internal polling data from the campaign is direct cooperation. Kilimnik passed the data to the GRU's Internet Research Agency arm, and they microtargeted voters in key swing States with fake stories about Hillary, such as "Uranium One" and about her health.

 

Was it enough for the convicted felon to win? That can never be known, but it was direct cooperation between Russia and the campaign, just as even the Republican Senate said.

 

Here's a Moscow dinner before the 2016 election with Stein, Mike Flynn & Putin:

 

 

Flynn has turned ia real nutter

[G_Money]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

I know what it is, but you were wrong and will not own up..........

Now get over there and apologise..........🤭

P.S. Wrong again, I do not have a "UK Police Certificate Certificate" of any kind, all your stuff is guesswork and assumptions.......😂

 
See you do know.  So why waste time asking me.

 

 I was wrong about what?

 

I could care less about your UK thingy.  You’re the one who brought it up trying to prove your expertise.  

[Roo Island]

1 minute ago, candide said:

Stop putting words in my mouth. I never claimed the election was rigged by Russian interference. I said there was a Russian interference ( see Mueller report and GOP Senste commission report). No one is able to measure its effect.

Sorry, sincerest apologies. I was replying to someone else but focusing on a great bottle of German wine and a fantastic traditional meal. Apologies. You are spot on!

[BangkokReady]

19 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Reminds me of @Yellowtail trying to rationalize  Trump's criming.

 

The jurors got to pick and choose which of Trump's crimes was the underlying crime to make his business fraud a felony.

 

No answer to the question?  Funny...  🙄

[BangkokReady]

19 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Not hard to connect the dots.

 

But apparently hard to answer this simple question?

[Walker88]

I doubt he will win on appeal. A jury of his peers found the evidence so overwhelming that they convicted him on all 34 felonies. It's so clearly a felony that one individual---Michael Cohen---was jailed for it, and did not receive a pardon from his former boss in 2018. Now the boss has been convicted of the same crime. Unless the appeal is taken to someone like Judge Aileen Cannon, it will be upheld.

 

Michael Cohen did not try to appeal, assuming he would lose, so saved himself the time and money, The mastermind of the crime that resulted in Cohen's incarceration is even more guilty. He will appeal to try to delay, and also because he knows he isn't going to pay his lawyers anyway, so no personal expense is involved. At worst, he can grift off his goobers, as he began doing yesterday.

 

His only hope is to win, and also that the Repubs retake the Senate and keep the House. Then his lackeys in the House---who have already written the Bill---will produce something that says Presidents are immune for life from any possible crime, and that is grandfathered back to at least 2016. They might couch it in less obvious terms, such as say any State crime (where Presidents have no pardon power) must be moved on to the Federal level if it involves a President. Once on the Fed level, a President can pardon himself.

[candide]

17 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Sorry, sincerest apologies. I was replying to someone else but focusing on a great bottle of German wine and a fantastic traditional meal. Apologies. You are spot on!

Ok, no worry

[BangkokReady]

20 hours ago, candide said:

As far as I understand (I have no law degree), it's not a crime as long as the related expense is declared as campaign expense.

 

If he wasn't found guilty of "falsifying business records to influence the 2016 presidential campaign", then that's an easy lie to see instantly (and typical of the way the left reports on Trump).

[Roo Island]

25 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

But apparently hard to answer this simple question?

Answered many times but the answers evade Mcult members

[candide]

7 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

If he wasn't found guilty of "falsifying business records to influence the 2016 presidential campaign", then that's an easy lie to see instantly (and typical of the way the left reports on Trump).

Anyway, Trump will appeal so the case will be reviewed.

Will you accept the decision about Trump's appeal? 😀

[Danderman123]

21 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Did the court find Trump guilty of "falsifying business records to influence the 2016 presidential campaign"?   Does it actually mention influencing the 2016 election as being a crime of which he was found guilty?

No.

 

I guess you haven't been paying attention to the trial.

 

Trump was found guilty of falsifying business records to conceal and underlying crime.

[Danderman123]

Poll: 49% of Independents think Trump should drop out post-guilty verdict

 

For the poll guys.

 

I personally think much of the impact of the conviction will be forgotten by November, unless there is another event that reminds people of it.

[G_Money]

I’m not surprised.  Many more that don’t want to admit for fear of being blacklisted.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/5-celebrities-who-regret-publicly-endorsing-supporting-biden-2020

[riclag]

The dem conviction, open a can of worms, the likes of which will transform politics forever, all starting in the heavily dem  district of Manhattan’s court, where 95% vote dem.

CNN legal guru says New York Trump prosecutors 'contorted the law,' case was 'unjustified mess'

Cnn  expert,"In fact, no state prosecutor — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever," Honig 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-legal-guru-says-new-york-trump-prosecutors-contorted-law-case-unjustified-mess

 

 

[Rimmer]

Off topic bickering posts and replies leading somehow into pictures of each others houses have been removed, this is what the topic is about:

 

Trump found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, BobBKK said:

 
Thank you. This is a very liberal board; common sense and stable, reasoned debate are often lost here. Many legal scholars decry this farce, and not one thinks it will not be thrown out on appeal. The facts are:

Dem judge (whose daughter works for the Dems),
Dem jury pick from Dem Manhattan,
Dem prosecutor raising a SEVEN-year-old misdemeanour to a felony.
Prime witnesses - a convicted LIAR and a porn star who signed a letter saying Trump was innocent.

It will go to appeal, probably lose and eventually go to SC. It is a very sad day for American justice; in many people's opinion, it is also sad few want to discuss it rationally here, but it is not surprising. 

Rational discussion you say after giving us this garbage:

 

Dem jury pick from Dem Manhattan

 

 

And so Trump had Porn Star in his life, shocked I am not.

 

 

[luckymitchell]

I dont see one thread regarding hunters court appearence this week. You sad little men. If you

can be called that

[stoner]

3 hours ago, Roo Island said:

5 hours ago, G_Money said:

Exactly what I expected.  You can’t prove me wrong.

 

I, on the other have proven you wrong several times.

 

Again. Nothing intelligent. But par for the course with you.

 

P.S. proved you wrong many times.

 

 

what are you guys 9 years old or something ?  

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

The dem conviction, open a can of worms, the likes of which will transform politics forever, all starting in the heavily dem  district of Manhattan’s court, where 95% vote dem.

CNN legal guru says New York Trump prosecutors 'contorted the law,' case was 'unjustified mess'

Cnn  expert,"In fact, no state prosecutor — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever," Honig 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-legal-guru-says-new-york-trump-prosecutors-contorted-law-case-unjustified-mess

 

 

And then Trump came along and committed the crimes no State Prosecutor had ever had to prosecute.

 

And he committed those crimes in NY, was indicted by Grand Jury, prosecuted, tried and convicted in NY.

 

 

[Presto]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

2. Theoretically he could run things from prison, though his Presidency was primarily golfing ($175,000,000 cost to the US Taxpayer), doing rallies, calling into Fox, grifting off his properties by hosting foreigners who wanted something.

Correct. The question remains, why hasn't the DOJ taken any action about the obvious corruption of Trump and his administration? No consequences whatsoever.

Apparently corruption will be ok for whatever administration comes next?

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, Roo Island said:

Answered many times

 

Where?

[BangkokReady]

55 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

No.

 

I guess you haven't been paying attention to the trial.

 

Trump was found guilty of falsifying business records to conceal and underlying crime.

 

Then the press are lying again... 🙄

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Anyway, Trump will appeal so the case will be reviewed.

Will you accept the decision about Trump's appeal? 😀

 

I'll accept any court decision if I believe there was a fair trial.

[candide]

4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I'll accept any court decision if I believe there was a fair trial.

In other words, if Trump wins. Same as the election, I guess.