Pro-Palestine Mobs Wreck Barclays Banks Across the UK

[pacovl46]

10 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

Hopefully this time next year Palestine will be but a memory......

That's never gonna happen, but keep holding on to your ridiculous delusion!

[billd766]

5 hours ago, proton said:

 

Instead of the fantasy it is now, never been a Palestine even though they have been offered one several times. Gaza and the west bank could have been called Palestine when Egypt and Jordan controlled them. It's just a colonial left over.

Do you ever do any research or read up history before you spout rubbish?

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/history-of-Palestine

 

Try reading and doing some research on Palestine which dates back to 636CE and older.

 

5 hours ago, proton said:

 

There is no genocide in Gaza that's just Hamas propaganda, who use the public as human shields causing unnecessary casualties. If they don't want a war they should not have started one, but as they did are in no position to play the victim.  

More BS from you.

 

[gearbox]

7 hours ago, koolkarl said:

So again you can see the nature of the beast. I trust the these terrorists, when caught, get immediately deported and on the no fly list.  As mentioned before, Japan and S. Korea have the right idea, never let these people in the country.  And look what it costs the world and air travelers in airport security.

South Korea and Japan don't engage in housing Ponzi schemes and fake GDP growth, these two require ever increasing immigration.

[proton]

29 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Do you ever do any research or read up history before you spout rubbish?

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/history-of-Palestine

 

Try reading and doing some research on Palestine which dates back to 636CE and older.

 

More BS from you.

 

 

What a laugh you have not done enough reading, the earliest reference to it is far earlier and its' AD not CE comrade. Explain why the Quran never mentions Palestine once but does the children of Israel 42 times and states Allah gave them their land. Free Palestine is like saying free East Anglia or New England, its nonsense. Muslims occupied 59 countries and over 96% of the middle east, yet they want it all, and only because Islam hates Jews.

[RayC]

2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

.... Muhammad never visited Indonesia or Malaysia, but now they are Muslim countries. Q-How does 100s of millions of Asians become Muslim. A-Through many years of uncontrolled Muslim immigration and their inevitable over-taking of their society. Muslims dont assimilate - they slowly dissociate and undermine and destroy, meanwhile slowly substituting their own beliefs, until they are the majority - and then it is all over.  If anyone can give an example of where Muslims did not do that in any country over history since 800 AD, that is because they were driven out - like they were from Southern Europe in 1000-1100 (it was called the Crusades).  Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat the errors of the past. 

 

It's pretty unlikely that Jesus made it to Europe. Moreover, a similar line of argument could be applied to Christianity. The Church(es) didn't exactly hold back when it came to forceable conversion.

[proton]

Mosab the son of an Hamas founder, he knows what he's talking about, he lived it

 

 

 

[rickudon]

9 hours ago, Shmo said:

Israel gave land for peace

Since when? It is Palestinians who usually have to do the 'giving'

[Red Forever]

7 hours ago, koolkarl said:

So again you can see the nature of the beast. I trust the these terrorists, when caught, get immediately deported and on the no fly list.  As mentioned before, Japan and S. Korea have the right idea, never let these people in the country.  And look what it costs the world and air travelers in airport security.

What if these "terrorists" are British?

[billd766]

32 minutes ago, proton said:

 

What a laugh you have not done enough reading, the earliest reference to it is far earlier and its' AD not CE comrade. Explain why the Quran never mentions Palestine once but does the children of Israel 42 times and states Allah gave them their land. Free Palestine is like saying free East Anglia or New England, its nonsense. Muslims occupied 59 countries and over 96% of the middle east, yet they want it all, and only because Islam hates Jews.

Firstly I am not a comrade oy yours and never would be.

Secondly, I did not claim that the reference from Britannia was the first reference.

Thirdly in your earlier post you that Palestine has never existed claimed, so how, according to you did it exist in AD.

Fourthly you claim that the Quran states that Allah gave the land to Muslims. Are Palestinians not Muslims? If you want to follow that up, according to the Jewish holy book, their god promised them Israel over 5,000 years ago.

 

I have no idea what the Quran says as I have never read it, nor have I read the Jewish holy book or even the Christian bible. Have you read all 3 cover to cover?

[proton]

20 minutes ago, rickudon said:

Since when? It is Palestinians who usually have to do the 'giving'

 

When did these mythical Palestinians give anything? Arabs are the colonisers, Jews were there over 3k years ago

[proton]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

Firstly I am not a comrade oy yours and never would be.

Secondly, I did not claim that the reference from Britannia was the first reference.

Thirdly in your earlier post you that Palestine has never existed claimed, so how, according to you did it exist in AD.

Fourthly you claim that the Quran states that Allah gave the land to Muslims. Are Palestinians not Muslims? If you want to follow that up, according to the Jewish holy book, their god promised them Israel over 5,000 years ago.

 

I have no idea what the Quran says as I have never read it, nor have I read the Jewish holy book or even the Christian bible. Have you read all 3 cover to cover?

 

The name Palestine was used by Herodotus, but that does not mean it was a country- 'I have no Idea what the Quran says' ignorance personified. I never said Allah gave land to muslims, the Quran states he gave the Jews their land. Do try to concentrate.

[proton]

“The Quran, the final revelation bestowed upon me by Allah, speaks of the land promised to the Children of Israel. This is a truth acknowledged in Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:21) where Moses tells his people that Allah has assigned the Holy Land to them, and in Surah Al-Isra (17:104), where Allah commands the Children of Israel to dwell in the land. These passages affirm a covenant between Allah and the Children of Israel, granting them a unique relationship with this land.

[riclag]

19 hours ago, proton said:

“The Quran, the final revelation bestowed upon me by Allah, speaks of the land promised to the Children of Israel. This is a truth acknowledged in Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:21) where Moses tells his people that Allah has assigned the Holy Land to them, and in Surah Al-Isra (17:104), where Allah commands the Children of Israel to dwell in the land. These passages affirm a covenant between Allah and the Children of Israel, granting them a unique relationship with this land.

Wow @proton good find!

[TroubleandGrumpy]

20 hours ago, RayC said:

 

It's pretty unlikely that Jesus made it to Europe. Moreover, a similar line of argument could be applied to Christianity. The Church(es) didn't exactly hold back when it came to forceable conversion.

Absolutely true - that is what all the 'white hatred' is based upon, and some of it is justified. We (Christina societies) went around the world and 'converted' all the natives we could in the name of our religion - just look at Sth America.  But the truth is that was wrong, and in a lot of cases we have 'handed back' (especially after WW2) - yes they were damaged, but we handed them back.  Yes we were wrong and we should have been deported or banned (like in Japan and China) - but our technology was vastly superior and the natives had no chance.  Islam is still in that faze and has been since 800AD - that is what some people are failing to see. Islam no longer 'takes over' through conquest like we and they did in the past, bow they take over though immigration and trade and family growth. I forgot his name but an Islamic cleric addressed the UN decades ago and said "we will conquer Europe through the wombs of our women".  

 

There are 10 million people in Sweden and about 1.5 million are Muslim. Swedes are leaving/dying and they have 1.2 kids per family.  More Muslims are arriving (Immigration, Refugees and Family Reunion programs) and they have 5-6 kids per family. The end result is inevitable - same as Indonesia and Malaysia - just a matter of time. 

[richard_smith237]

15 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Absolutely true - that is what all the 'white hatred' is based upon, and some of it is justified. We (Christina societies) went around the world and 'converted' all the natives we could in the name of our religion - just look at Sth America.  But the truth is that was wrong, and in a lot of cases we have 'handed back' (especially after WW2) - yes they were damaged, but we handed them back.  Yes we were wrong and we should have been deported or banned (like in Japan and China) - but our technology was vastly superior and the natives had no chance.  Islam is still in that faze and has been since 800AD - that is what some people are failing to see. Islam no longer 'takes over' through conquest like we and they did in the past, bow they take over though immigration and trade and family growth. I forgot his name but an Islamic cleric addressed the UN decades ago and said "we will conquer Europe through the wombs of our women".  

 

There are 10 million people in Sweden and about 1.5 million are Muslim. Swedes are leaving/dying and they have 1.2 kids per family.  More Muslims are arriving (Immigration, Refugees and Family Reunion programs) and they have 5-6 kids per family. The end result is inevitable - same as Indonesia and Malaysia - just a matter of time. 

 

Here it is... not from a 'Westerner'.... But from a Muslim, the UAE Foreign Minster....  

 

 

[James105]

29 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Absolutely true - that is what all the 'white hatred' is based upon, and some of it is justified. We (Christina societies) went around the world and 'converted' all the natives we could in the name of our religion - just look at Sth America.  But the truth is that was wrong, and in a lot of cases we have 'handed back' (especially after WW2) - yes they were damaged, but we handed them back.  Yes we were wrong and we should have been deported or banned (like in Japan and China) - but our technology was vastly superior and the natives had no chance.  Islam is still in that faze and has been since 800AD - that is what some people are failing to see. Islam no longer 'takes over' through conquest like we and they did in the past, bow they take over though immigration and trade and family growth. I forgot his name but an Islamic cleric addressed the UN decades ago and said "we will conquer Europe through the wombs of our women".  

 

There are 10 million people in Sweden and about 1.5 million are Muslim. Swedes are leaving/dying and they have 1.2 kids per family.  More Muslims are arriving (Immigration, Refugees and Family Reunion programs) and they have 5-6 kids per family. The end result is inevitable - same as Indonesia and Malaysia - just a matter of time. 

 

Who is "we"?  I didn't go around converting anyone and I categorically refuse to take responsibility for the actions of my long dead ancestors in much the same way that I refuse to blame any Germans living today for the actions of their ancestors.  Islam needs to grow up and become the religion of peace it claims to be and if it cannot then the west needs to take action to remove/deport those who hate the west from their countries and tackle the hatred head on, closing down and literally banning mosques where the spread of this hatred occurs if need be.  If some kind of reparation/punishment needs to be made I have no problem with anyone directly responsible for illegal invasions (looking at you Tony Blair) being sent to any one of those invaded countries to be judged and sentenced accordingly.

 

It may be too late for Sweden but at least (the socialist) Denmark have been brave enough to recognise the problem on their doorsteps and are doing something to tackle it.   The rest of Europe needs to follow this example.  

[TroubleandGrumpy]

21 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Here it is... not from a 'Westerner'.... But from a Muslim, the UAE Foreign Minster....  

 

 

Yep - he said all that needs to be listened to by the woke liberal idiots running Europe. When he said 'the others' he meant the radical extremist Muslims (like Hamas and Hezbollah) that 'his people' know are bad and always will be bad - you cannot appease, you cannot negotiate, you can only control.  For Europe right now the best form of control, and the only one left, is to deport them all and not let any more in.  Yes there are many good Muslims like this bloke - but there are far too many bad ones that go to Europe for reasons that are not good for Europe.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 minute ago, James105 said:

 

Who is "we"?  I didn't go around converting anyone and I categorically refuse to take responsibility for the actions of my long dead ancestors in much the same way that I refuse to blame any Germans living today for the actions of their ancestors.  Islam needs to grow up and become the religion of peace it claims to be and if it cannot then the west needs to take action to remove/deport those who hate the west from their countries and tackle the hatred head on, closing down and literally banning mosques where the spread of this hatred occurs if need be.  If some kind of reparation/punishment needs to be made I have no problem with anyone directly responsible for illegal invasions (looking at you Tony Blair) being sent to any one of those invaded countries to be judged and sentenced accordingly.

 

It may be too late for Sweden but at least (the socialist) Denmark have been brave enough to recognise the problem on their doorsteps and are doing something to tackle it.   The rest of Europe needs to follow this example.  

'We' was meant as in 'our' history - the lessons of the mistakes made in the past.

 

I agree - tackle the matter head on - ignore the woke liberal idiots (they will either find another 'cause' or they will grow up), Ban Islam and register it as a destructive cult (like China did). Ban public displays of the Islamic religion and deport all the Muslim radicals from Europe. Take very strong action to encourage all Muslims to leave and ban all Muslims from entering - tourist, immigrant, student, employee - all of them.  Sorry it has come to this, but you have been given decades to assimilate and adopt our cultures and accept our society's values and our Laws, but you have not - so now you must leave and your are never welcome back. 

[Jingthing]

I don't think that such tactics are going to win friends and influence people.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 6/11/2024 at 1:36 PM, riclag said:

No worries mate  ,its under control

 

Yup. They'll be along in a while to fill out a report.

[248900_1469958220]

On 6/11/2024 at 6:08 AM, EVENKEEL said:

Where were the police while all this is happening.

They were in a meeting about 'diversity in the workplace' 

[248900_1469958220]

Now...what the UK needs now is more muslim immigrants....yeah, that'll do the trick!!

[PETERTHEEATER]

I do hope Paul Gascoigne's kit was not damaged. You know, the Gaza Strip.......

[bendejo]

On 6/10/2024 at 6:41 PM, RuamRudy said:

a raisin in the sun

 

Thanks for the post, I did not know Hughes coined that term.  Well, its a deduction: according to web searches the poem was written in 1951, the play was published in 1959.

 

[bendejo]

On 6/11/2024 at 2:06 AM, proton said:

 

When did these mythical Palestinians give anything? Arabs are the colonisers, Jews were there over 3k years ago

Whatever became of that little Jewish boy who defeated a big Palestinian guy using only a slingshot?  That's how long this has been going on.

 

[RayC]

15 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

'We' was meant as in 'our' history - the lessons of the mistakes made in the past.

 

I agree - tackle the matter head on - ignore the woke liberal idiots (they will either find another 'cause' or they will grow up), Ban Islam and register it as a destructive cult (like China did). Ban public displays of the Islamic religion and deport all the Muslim radicals from Europe. Take very strong action to encourage all Muslims to leave and ban all Muslims from entering - tourist, immigrant, student, employee - all of them.  Sorry it has come to this, but you have been given decades to assimilate and adopt our cultures and accept our society's values and our Laws, but you have not - so now you must leave and your are never welcome back. 

 

Imo it's fortunate that your views are not shared by many UK politicians or the majority of the UK public.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

6 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Imo it's fortunate that your views are not shared by many UK politicians or the majority of the UK public.

It is changing - slowly - but it is changing. The left's common heard shrill-cry was to accuse anyone saying that Islam is bad was a 'far right' - and that in the past worked and shut it down - people even went to jail for expressing such views in public.

 

But times are changing and more and more ordinary people are speaking out against the PC woke left that has allowed to happen what is happening with far too many illegal immigrants (claiming to be refugees) and others, entering European countries.  Many of them are not in the best interests of the people of the European country they enter - that is obvious to anyone that looks.  The more people that speak out and protest, the sooner it will be that the politicians change their tune (they all want votes) and then policies and programs and laws will also start to change. 

 

The Crusades started because the Muslim Empire that had conquered most of Nth Africa and had reached Eastern Europe in Turkey,  and South Europe in Greece and Italy, and South Western Europe in Spain. When they started to enter France the European States got together and fought the common enemy - Islam - and drove them out of Spain, Greece and Italy - and reached a stalemate in Turkey.  The Crusades even had European (Christian) armies retaking Jerusalem and other parts of the Holy Lands, in an attempt to cut off the snake at its head (not so unlike Iraq and Afghanistan in recent times).  The Europeans did not give a rat's rear about North Africa - and IMO that was a massive mistake. 

 

There has been a lot of toing and froing since those times, especially with the Ottoman Empire, but essentially it has never stopped.  We (the Western Judea-Christian based countries) have never conquered Islamic Lands for any serious length of time.  It is also note worthy to state that any Judea (Jewish) or Christian practices and/or Churches are banned in most Islamic Countries. But Islam has been more and more 'allowed' in the West, and with that has come wave after wave of Muslims (both good and bad). The current situation is all a part of the plan of many Muslims in the Arab countries to over-run the Judea-Christian based societies. And as the Muslim guy said - we will conquer Europe through the wombs of our women - and we are allowing more and more Muslims in that will do just that. 

 

That is exactly what they did in Malaysia and Indonesia - it was not an aggressive conquering with malice like in the past - it was a slowly slowly catchy monkey annihilation of the old religious and cultural beliefs, and an eventual replacement with Islam - as it is now starting in Europe.  Unlike the Malays and the Javanese/Sudanese, we in Europe know what they are going to do because we know the negative future that will happen if we dont stop it now.   IMO the time is now - stop them coming, and remove those that are radicals and/or are not a benefit to the European country they inhabit. Ban the religion as a cult and remove all public displays of practice and their Mosques etc.  There are many good Muslims, but their religion and cultural beliefs will always be in conflict with ours.  As an example of allowing the 'good ones' - allow immigration from any Muslim country that allows Christianity to be practiced openly and Churches to be built in their lands (and reciprocate for them in our countries).  But ban/remove all radical/bad Muslims from those Muslim countries that do not allow Christianity to be practiced or Churches built - quid pro quo.

 

I am on a roll - sorry - but I have one more point. Why has this happened?  IMO the main reason is because the people that live in a Muslim countries are overwhelmingly Muslim and are totally committed to their 'cause'.  There are many different sects/types of Muslims (just like ours), but the vast majority of people there practice their religion - always have and always will - it is in their DNA.  Meanwhile, we in the west have had our religious beliefs 'diluted' as we have become more and more 'progressive' and tolerant.  But - in order for the people of the west to resist and push back on the Muslim 'non-malice invasion', does not require us to adopt the Judea-Christian based fanatical religious belief system of our past (like we were in the Crusades and the conquering of other lands like Sth America in the name of our religion). What is required is for many of the woke progressive lefties and the apathetic red-neck righties to stop being stupid, and to think forward to what the European countries they live in will be like in 50-100 years time.  Look up and away from their smartphone social-media mass-media driven lives, and actually think ahead - while looking back at our common past. 

 

When the majority of people do that - the problem will be seen for what it is and the solution will become obvious to all.  There are some things that cannot be 'assimilated' together into a cohesive and balanced society - and two of those are Muslim and Judea-Christian cultural beliefs.  Even back in the past thousands of years ago when the the Arab and Holy lands were occupied by both Arab and Jewish peoples, they were in a constant state of way and dispute over those lands, all based on their own incompatible beliefs.  The Jewish people lost and were basically 'destroyed' - only because of WW1 and WW2 were they given back their Holy Lands - with the inevitable conflicts that have followed.  That is not ever going to change - go to Sweden and take a look - the Muslim and Swedish people are incompatible - the result in 100 years will not be a peaceful hybrid Muslim-Judea-Christian society - it will be one or the other - Muslim or Judea-Christian. 

Edited June 13 by TroubleandGrumpy

[RuamRudy]

10 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

Thanks for the post, I did not know Hughes coined that term.  Well, its a deduction: according to web searches the poem was written in 1951, the play was published in 1959.

 

 

Thanks - I was unaware of the play, but this is from the Wikipedia article on it:

 

A Raisin in the Sun is a play by Lorraine Hansberry that debuted on Broadway in 1959.^[1] The title comes from the poem "Harlem" (also known as "A Dream Deferred"^[2]) by Langston Hughes.

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

It is changing - slowly - but it is changing. The left's common heard shrill-cry was to accuse anyone saying that Islam is bad was a 'far right' - and that in the past worked and shut it down - people even went to jail for expressing such views in public.

 

Not unlike the pro-Zionist mob who try to destroy the careers and reputations of any high profile person who dares criticise the state of Israel by calling them antisemites. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

On 6/11/2024 at 3:35 PM, RayC said:

 

It's pretty unlikely that Jesus made it to Europe. Moreover, a similar line of argument could be applied to Christianity. The Church(es) didn't exactly hold back when it came to forceable conversion.

You have agreed with my point - without knowing it - thanks.  If you look at that and other posts of mine I point out that the Judea-Christian societies most of us came from, did the same thing all over the world - some say we 'civilised' most of the world - some say we enslaved it - whatever works for you.  But the point is, yes we/us travelled a long way and forcibly overtook and converted other societies/countries in the name of religion (and business).  But we do not do that anymore.

1.  Islam did that too, but they were driven out and/or forced to withdraw - they never once willingly left - we did in many places.

2.  Islam did it differently in Malaysia and Indonesia - rather than conquering and converting - they slowly slowly took over. 

3.  Islam is now following the non-violent (as such) path and is conquering Europe "through the wombs of our women" as the Arab man said they would do many decades ago.