Western Liberals: How Do You Justify Your Stay in Thailand?

[JonnyF]

Great questions in the OP. I've often wondered about this as well. 

 

In some cases, it's as simple as abandoning their principles at the door because Thailand is so cheap to live in (often due to the human rights abuses they claim to deplore). 

 

In other cases, they can justify living in Thailand with all it's human rights abuses etc. due to their own feelings of superiority about the West. Essentially, they tolerate the type of things that happen in Thailand because they believe "they know not what they do". They believe the West is superior and therefore we should know better, but they cut the Thais some slack because they are 'less developed' or 'less sophisticated' than Westerners.

 

It is essentially racist and smacks of having a supremacist attitude. But hey, when did Liberals let hypocrisy get in the way of a large slice of virtue signalling?

[susanlea]

14 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

no one likes old women. 

So will you dump yours when you turn 60yo?

[susanlea]

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Great questions in the OP. I've often wondered about this as well. 

 

In some cases, it's as simple as abandoning their principles at the door because Thailand is so cheap to live in (often due to the human rights abuses they claim to deplore). 

 

In other cases, they can justify living in Thailand with all it's human rights abuses etc. due to their own feelings of superiority about the West. Essentially, they tolerate the type of things that happen in Thailand because they believe "they know not what they do". They believe the West is superior and therefore we should know better, but they cut the Thais some slack because they are 'less developed' or 'less sophisticated' than Westerners.

 

It is essentially racist and smacks of having a supremacist attitude. But hey, when did Liberals let hypocrisy get in the way of a large slice of virtue signalling?

Old liberals turn to movie stars for guidance and adopt the when in Rome attitude when it suits them. Protesting at home, no protesting abroad, just rants. They are all the same. The old tattoos they got when younger do look bad now they are 65yo.

[stoner]

9 minutes ago, susanlea said:

So will you dump yours when you turn 60yo?

 

might not have to. she could be a goner by then. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

4 hours ago, Presnock said:

actually, since we cannot impact the political situation in this country who really cares if it is liberal or conservative or what.  I and I think most people that have come from some other country have seen that so far it is much cheaper than at home, the weather never gets too cold nor too rainy which might change too and which we cannot affect in any way, attractive women, good food, lots of beaches, and varied nature.  The majority of locals are of the Budhist persuasion so are fairly tolerant of the decadent foreigners that also come here so I fail to understand why the arguments among the forum members here about all the things that they have no control over in the first place.  Please just enjoy the life here, compared to many places this is paradise.  Be nice to others on the forum as all kinds of folks come here for many different reasons and I am sure none came here for arguments.

Good statement - not the answer to the question - but spot on about why many blokes come here and decide to stay.

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Great questions in the OP. I've often wondered about this as well. 

 

In some cases, it's as simple as abandoning their principles at the door because Thailand is so cheap to live in (often due to the human rights abuses they claim to deplore). 

 

In other cases, they can justify living in Thailand with all it's human rights abuses etc. due to their own feelings of superiority about the West. Essentially, they tolerate the type of things that happen in Thailand because they believe "they know not what they do". They believe the West is superior and therefore we should know better, but they cut the Thais some slack because they are 'less developed' or 'less sophisticated' than Westerners.

 

It is essentially racist and smacks of having a supremacist attitude. But hey, when did Liberals let hypocrisy get in the way of a large slice of virtue signalling?

I will answer that.  They never let hypocrisy get in the way 😅 

 

They want their old country and other western countries to be liberal progressive woke societies, but are happy to live in a country that is not liberal, not woke, and not progressive.  They swoon over Pita and the chance he will change Thailand into the disastrously dystopian society like California, but they have no understanding that the main reason they like Thailand so much, is because the society is not woke, progressive or liberal. They cannot see that things like the recent $20p/h minimum wage in California is a total disaster, just like all the other disastrous woke liberal progressive nonsense that has slowly turned California into the dystopian place it is now.  They screamed blue murder over Trump being POTUS when in their opinion he was mentally challenged, and yet they 'pass' Biden because he is a Democrat. They even ignore the fact that the DOJ/FBI did not charge Biden with a serious crime, because he was old and frail and had mental decline. They rarely ever see their own hypocrisy, because they would become internally conflicted, and cognitive bias is all about protecting one from that stressful situation.  The good news is that the young people who do grow up and see reality can and often do make that switch - that is why so many young people are liberals but so many older people are conservatives.  Unfortunately, those here who are old and entrenched cannot change, and they are conflicted and grumpy, and always blame others for their own internal stress.

[cdemundo]

TLDR.

Where is our yawn emoji?

[spidermike007]

18 hours ago, susanlea said:

The truly smart worship movie stars. Those guys who dress up and play characters are the ones we should all listen to. Will Smith for example, what a well behaved well rounded intelligent guy or DeNiro, an old super intelligent genius who played mafia bosses in movies. Our true leaders and heroes.

Will Smith is an absolute idiot, who is married to a witch, and has allowed himself to be completely emasculated. DeNiro, on the other hand is a legend who has a great deal of control over his life, a very successful career, and can do and say as he pleases.

 

He is absolutely heroic for speaking out, and speaking honestly against extremely toxic, dishonest, fraudulent, criminal, and corrosive power. 

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

Will Smith is an absolute idiot, who is married to a witch, and has allowed himself to be completely emasculated. DeNiro, on the other hand is a legend who has a great deal of control over his life, a very successful career, and can do and say as he pleases.

 

He is absolutely heroic for speaking out, and speaking honestly against extremely toxic, dishonest, fraudulent, criminal, and corrosive power. 

DeNiro can say what he wants. So can others who think he is embarrassing himself which he is. Half the country now hate him and he has to employ more body guards. He will now be hated by half the country forever. Not very smart behaviour. Their is no upside to his rants, only downside. No swinging voter listens to angry rants.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 6/13/2024 at 5:59 PM, spidermike007 said:

I am a fan, and am proud to admit it. He is an astonishing actor. If you call the star of the godfather, raging bull, the deer hunter, once upon a time in america, brazil, taxi driver, goodfellas, casino, cape fear, a bronx tale, ronin, heat, the intern, hands of stone, and killers of the flower moon an over rated actor, the fault is with your perception and appreciation. Or your blindness due to Trump worship. End of story.

That was long ago. His later attempts are IMO garbage. Fokkers- really?

If he had any integrity he'd never act in a garbage movie, IMO.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

n other cases, they can justify living in Thailand with all it's human rights abuses etc. due to their own feelings of superiority about the West.

How many countries has Thailand invaded in the past 20 years? You might want to dial back on the "west is good" rhetoric.

[novacova]

4 hours ago, susanlea said:

So you date older women do you? That's good to hear.

Undoubtedly bignok incarnate. Still in India are ya?

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That was long ago. His later attempts are IMO garbage. Fokkers- really?

If he had any integrity he'd never act in a garbage movie, IMO.

You know that sure is easy for us to say, if I were in his position would I turn down 10 or 15 million dollars for movie that looked mediocre on paper? I doubt it, it's easy to say that somebody is compromising when it's their compromise. It's a whole lot harder to say I'm highly compromised when it's my compromise. 

 

Easy to judge others. Especially when they are critical of your choice as leader.