Majority Oppose Re-Criminalising Cannabis in Thailand

[n00dle]

14 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Driving on anything that makes you change your habits isn't good

great choice of words there, fred, no really. 

[sherwood]

2 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

 

That is about the dumbest excuse ever for recreational cannabis.

Who else would you pardon?

Rapists, drunk drivers? Illegal immigrants?

Are you for real?

Pardon me for saying keep out of the debate, because you are way out of your depth.

It's people like you that cause unrest.

Now pi** off.

[Bangel72]

FYI the feedback survey is on a government site published in the papers for all to access and give their views.

 

I'm a bit surprised by results as not that well publicized and had expected it to be gamed.

 

The challenge with a referendum is that its been demonised for so long, you can see even by comments here that a lot of views are based on misinformation and decades of propaganda.

 

Legistate rather than criminalize seems more rational to those who are a bit more informed, it can be abused and misused often again due to lack of understanding. If you whitey its not a good experience for example, couches to lie down on and drinking water can help with this rarity but if users have no understanding of this they can panic, rush off to hospital etc.  

 

Half the arguments against seem to be about smell, given the smells in bangkok, the sewers, the squid men, the street stalls, the pollution its a very weak argument that could really be discarded. However if that's the argument they could legistate water curing all weed, that would remove the smell factor and many would need to find another crutch argument against it.

 

Education is key for sensible discussion on way forward and to reduce unnecessary risk and legistation to keep it away from kids as much as possible in the same way as other things children should be protected from that are okay for grown adults to determine on their own.

 

 

[dinsdale]

Majority want it recriminalised and the majority don't want it recriminalised. 100% of Thais want anything above 1 Yaa Baa pill to be classified as dealing. I'm waiting for a poll that states 110% of Thais. It must be coming with these absolute buffoons at the helm.

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, Jiggo said:

Shouldn't that read the majority of Pot Heads and Pot Shops don't want cannabis re classified 

Why? Maybe people who don't smoke it and are not invested in it have the sense to see that recriminalisation puts money back into the hands of the drug lords and corrupt officials and don't see this as a positive move.

[dinsdale]

33 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Driving on anything that makes you change your habits isn't good. Even driving after using some cough syrups can be dangerous for some people. Some drugs make you sleepy and of course this is to be avoided.

Dope makes me go slower. Alcohol faster.

[Kwaibill]

I frankly agree, though I have not partaken in many years. IMO alcohol abuse is a much greater social detriment. While the drunk is trying to see how fast his Beemer can go through the switchback turns the stoner is waiting for the stop sign to change to green..🤪

Furthermore the weed seems to be more of a middle class industry v the alcohol monopolies.

[David9]

3 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

The final decision will be up to Thaksin, our very own Wizard of Oz.

Taksin is on the run again, and this time he’s gone for good. Period. 
 

Cannabis will remained legal, with added regulations.

[fredwiggy]

1 hour ago, n00dle said:

great choice of words there, fred, no really. 

Why do you bother when you know I'm very literate? And if you don't think so, maybe it's you that's not fully aware of the English language. You have commented on a number of my posts, so you should know, if you have comprehension skills and a memory, that when I write, my grammar is usually right on. Everyone makes some minor grammar mistakes, especially when they are typing and not looking back to proofread, as you have proven to all of us by responding to topics you know little to nothing about. I'll rewrite it so you can go back to your little world..........Driving on anything that changes your effectiveness while driving isn't a smart idea. And by the way, when you start a sentence, you should use a capital letter to begin. And names should be capitalized also. And great little sentence you have there yourself Einstein.

[fredwiggy]

48 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Dope makes me go slower. Alcohol faster.

Maybe refrain from both while driving, so you and others can make it safely back home?

[newbee2022]

"Majority" Oppose Re-Criminalising Cannabis in Thailand

 

I don't think the majority consists of ignorants🙏

[JimboB4]

Probably the dumbest walk it back article I’ve ever read on this sight. Where do you all come up with the nonsense written here like “by January next year the plants would have died naturally”? 🤣, uhh they will still be growing it by then obviously. Have you walked a few feet through Pattaya lately? 🤣🤣🤣

 

Tell me a place in Bangkok and Pattaya where they are not selling weed every few feet 🤣🤣. 
 

It’s obviously not going anywhere and to even suggest otherwise is extremely ignorant of what is actually happening. 
 

Bottom line I knew this was coming and there will be further walk backs between now and next year. 

 

 

[Kiwiken]

If they legalize but regulate where and how it is sold then it may reduce the influence of Other Drugs like Yabba

[JimboB4]

Just now, Kiwiken said:

If they legalize but regulate where and how it is sold then it may reduce the influence of Other Drugs like Yabba

Take a look around pal. They legalized it years ago. Toothpaste is out of the tube people. 🤣🤣🤣

[JimboB4]

51 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

"Majority" Oppose Re-Criminalising Cannabis in Thailand

 

I don't think the majority consists of ignorants🙏

The only ignorance is thinking it would even be possible to go backwards on cannabis legalization at this point. 

[JimboB4]

1 hour ago, David9 said:

Taksin is on the run again, and this time he’s gone for good. Period. 
 

Cannabis will remained legal, with added regulations.

And they probably won’t even be real enforced regulations either other than requiring ID. Everything will get even more liberal regarding cannabis. Take a walk around Pattaya. 

[newbee2022]

9 minutes ago, JimboB4 said:

The only ignorance is thinking it would even be possible to go backwards on cannabis legalization at this point. 

Well, but it's not necessary to push further either🙏

[fredwiggy]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

"Majority" Oppose Re-Criminalising Cannabis in Thailand

 

I don't think the majority consists of ignorants🙏

It did back in the states before they started realizing the benefits of Cannabis and that it was a lot less dangerous than they thought and nowhere near as dangerous as alcohol.

[n00dle]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Why do you bother when you know I'm very literate? And if you don't think so, maybe it's you that's not fully aware of the English language. You have commented on a number of my posts, so you should know, if you have comprehension skills and a memory, that when I write, my grammar is usually right on. Everyone makes some minor grammar mistakes, especially when they are typing and not looking back to proofread, as you have proven to all of us by responding to topics you know little to nothing about. I'll rewrite it so you can go back to your little world..........Driving on anything that changes your effectiveness while driving isn't a smart idea. And by the way, when you start a sentence, you should use a capital letter to begin. And names should be capitalized also. And great little sentence you have there yourself Einstein.

ah, verbosity, thy name is fred. 
 

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And names should be capitalized

if capitalization was so important to you, you should have thought of that when you selected a username, don't you think? 
 

[jingjai9]

Here is an excerpt from a news story than ran yesterday in ASEAN.Now:

This is in reference to legalizing casinos.

"However, the prospective downsides are concerning. Wichian warned of potential increases in underground economy activities, household debt, income inequality, and the social costs linked to gambling addiction."

 

To counter these issues, he recommended strict regulations, rehabilitation programs for gambling addicts, and the allocation of revenues towards social and economic development initiatives by the government.

 

Do you think the downsides to legalized gambling are worse for society than decriminalizing weed? The second paragraph above calls for remedies to mitigate the downside. The powers that be will get what they want. Same old same old.

Even though this article is favorable for legalization of weed, NEVER underestimate the spin doctors.

[jingjai9]

Here is an excerpt from a news story than ran yesterday in ASEAN.Now:

This is in reference to legalizing casinos.

"However, the prospective downsides are concerning. Wichian warned of potential increases in underground economy activities, household debt, income inequality, and the social costs linked to gambling addiction."

 

To counter these issues, he recommended strict regulations, rehabilitation programs for gambling addicts, and the allocation of revenues towards social and economic development initiatives by the government.

 

Do you think the downsides to legalized gambling are worse for society than decriminalizing weed? The second paragraph above calls for remedies to mitigate the downside. The powers that be will get what they want. Same old same old.

Even though this article is favorable for legalization of weed, NEVER underestimate the spin doctors.

[Slocum]

"Do the right thing" ...just total Ban that stuff and crimililized it for future generations ...Forget outside ...spoken words..they have different agenda.....unless for medical Use...Simple...Only listen to local, not others who are not Thai, just big mouth..have no right to interfere.. Simple 

[Purdey]

There's a lot worse drugs than cannabis or marijuana. 

Heroin

Cocaine

Crack Cocaine

Alcohol

Nicotine

Fentanyl

Barbiturates

Methadone

Crystal meth

Amphetamines

Benzodiazepines (Xanax)

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Cannabis

 

[stoner]

3 hours ago, Spock said:

4 hours ago, Kinnock said:

The weed sold by the legal shops doesn't seem to be very strong anyway.  I don't smoke, but tried what was claimed to be a full strength weed brownie, hoping for a reprise of my university-era giggling sessions .... and nothing happened.

 

The edibles on sale are not so good in my limited experience.

 

seems neither of you have had my edibles. shame really to go through life like that. 

[fredwiggy]

48 minutes ago, n00dle said:

ah, verbosity, thy name is fred. 
 

if capitalization was so important to you, you should have thought of that when you selected a username, don't you think? 
 

It is if you're trying to point out others grammar mistakes, don't you think? And if you would take a glance at all of the posts in this subject, you might notice a lot more mistakes in grammar that you didn't bother to point out, so that means you're just targeting me, which is a little prejudiced for what reason I cannot fathom. My username, if you need to know, is from my teen years and never needed a capital. It was just fredwiggy, for reasons only my close friends would understand.

[Elkski]

The strength of the early edibles I tried from the same vendor and presumably the same maker varied a lot.   They were a chocolate bar type in a clear wrapper.  Maybe 4cm x 12cm.  Some visits they had some with  different names indicating supposed strengths.   I think it was a matter of the cook testing them and finding out how strong they were.  IMHO it varied from real weak to OMG I should've taken a taxi rather than ride on the BTS.  This was in Dec Jan  of 22-23'.    In Colorado the edibles strength really seems to be scientifically formulated and tested to be 10mg per labeled serving and 100 mg max per product. I think that was the law.  Best was  2 carmel colored sugar cubes in mom's iced tea.  Great foavor profile and effect. 

 

From the very beginning I figured the 2 big alcohol companies were going to want to control things.  

 

I couldn't believe they let so many stores open so close and street vendors and such. 

The smell of burning or growing pot is really a negative for my sensitive nose.  In Colorado you can smell the indoor grow facilities in a car on the highway, with aircon on, going past at 140kmh.  

I do think they made a big mistake by not opening the flood gate without strict minimum age requirements like 18 or 20. 

With all the states, countries that had rolled out legalization why was Thailand so stupid not to cut and paste some legal verbage?  Stupidity or just never wanting to admit some other entity other than "Thai" can do right?

[stoner]

9 minutes ago, Elkski said:

The smell of burning or growing pot is really a negative for my sensitive nose.  In Colorado you can smell the indoor grow facilities in a car on the highway, with aircon on, going past at 140kmh.

 

at 140kmh you are dangerously exceeding the speed limit....who cares what your sensitive nose thinks. 

[n00dle]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

It is if you're trying to point out others grammar mistakes, don't you think? And if you would take a glance at all of the posts in this subject, you might notice a lot more mistakes in grammar that you didn't bother to point out, so that means you're just targeting me, which is a little prejudiced for what reason I cannot fathom. My username, if you need to know, is from my teen years and never needed a capital. It was just fredwiggy, for reasons only my close friends would understand.

my but you do go on.

 

 I couldn't give two fox about your grammar, fred my boy, nor did I bring it up.

Its your pomposity and poor turn of phrase that irk me 

 

[CharlieKo]

Having just returned from Chiang Mai, Taking a stroll down a side soi in the Nimman area, There must have been at least 6 dispensaries just in that Soi alone. No way can they re-criminalise  Cannabis and there not being repercussions! 

[sherwood]

People in my village have been growing pot for ever, eat it, smoke it whatever.

Never hear of someone getting hassled. Yaba on the other hand will get you expelled.

Stop the nonsense and leave the herb be.

I don't go to the <deleted> holes ( tourists haunts) so I have not seen one dope shop. I grow my own outside ln my garden, as it should be.