Crossy Posted Thursday at 10:02 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:02 AM This popped up in one of the other Alternative Energy fora (use Google Translate): - https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/6qb1ZGEfhUKyBh7fkGcBrA?spm=a2700.12243863.0.0.4f2a3e5fMCt5wX And then: - https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cgllkjexkrgo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted Thursday at 10:53 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:53 AM Those trays of batteries (18650?) Started going off like firecrackers, and it all happened so quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted Thursday at 10:59 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 10:59 AM 4 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Those trays of batteries (18650?) Started going off like firecrackers, and it all happened so quickly. Yeah, and they kept going even after staff (bravely) separated out the burning trays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted Thursday at 11:00 AM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 11:00 AM To think, some folk drive around sitting on a zillion of the things...........🥵 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted Thursday at 11:17 AM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 11:17 AM 13 minutes ago, transam said: To think, some folk drive around sitting on a zillion of the things...........🥵 I've got a tray of those 3.7v batteries sitting between my legs on my ebike, first hint of smoke from it and I'll be off and running. I already charge it in the front garden 'just in case'. No so worried about the house 3.2v lifepo4 battery pack sitting in my kitchen. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post G_Money Posted Thursday at 11:29 AM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 11:29 AM So much for E vehicles. Glad I never bought into that fad. 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muhendis Posted Thursday at 11:43 AM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 11:43 AM (edited) 14 minutes ago, G_Money said: So much for E vehicles. Glad I never bought into that fad. You are concerned about e-vehicles? They are relatively safe by which I mean they are now all LiFePO4 powered. Thermal runaway starts at about 250oC internal temperature. Power tools on the other hand are NMC powered (NMC is a type of lithium battery) and the thermal runaway temperature is in the region of 170o C How many cordless power tools do you have? We don't know what type of batteries were in the container but power tool batteries are all over the place. Edited Thursday at 11:45 AM by Muhendis 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted Thursday at 11:44 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:44 AM 42 minutes ago, transam said: To think, some folk drive around sitting on a zillion of the things...........🥵 We need a photo of an MG-EV and the statement that ICE vehicles catch fire more often than EV's... If only someone on the forum had such information to provide us with... 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted Thursday at 12:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:04 PM 34 minutes ago, G_Money said: So much for E vehicles. Glad I never bought into that fad. Well, you couldn't charge it, living in a flat.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted Thursday at 12:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:10 PM 1 minute ago, transam said: Well, you couldn't charge it, living in a flat.......... Change what? No reason for me to own a car in Pattaya. It’s a hindrance. My Vespa takes care of my transportation needs here. However next week I’ll be back home enjoying the California sunshine in my convertible. Gasoline powered! Perth must be getting cooler this time of year. Do you have heat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted Thursday at 12:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:14 PM Just now, G_Money said: Change what? No reason for me to own a car in Pattaya. It’s a hindrance. My Vespa takes care of my transportation needs here. However next week I’ll be back home enjoying the California sunshine in my convertible. Gasoline powered! Perth must be getting cooler this time of year. Do you have heat? It says, charge it....................😂 I bet California is really looking forward to you turning up..........😏 Perth, no idea about the climate there, let us know when you get back.........🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted Thursday at 12:16 PM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 12:16 PM 3 minutes ago, G_Money said: Change what? Time to get those reading specks upgraded !!.... chaRge !! 3 minutes ago, G_Money said: No reason for me to own a car in Pattaya. It’s a hindrance. My Vespa takes care of my transportation needs here. Fine, if you only plan on hanging around the area and not going anywhere else. Suppose you could rent for further journeys. 3 minutes ago, G_Money said: However next week I’ll be back home enjoying the California sunshine in my convertible. Gasoline powered! Perth must be getting cooler this time of year. Nice... Thailand is just too hot for a convertible... that said, its also too hot for a motorcycle if we are thinking comfort. 3 minutes ago, G_Money said: Do you have heat? Asking him if he's feeling frisky ?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted Thursday at 12:22 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:22 PM 34 minutes ago, Muhendis said: Power tools on the other hand are NMC powered (NMC is a type of lithium battery) and the thermal runaway temperature is in the region of 170o C How many cordless power tools do you have? The good thing about power tool batteries is that they are at least (often, always?) protected against physical damage. I am sure I can throw my Bosch power tool batteries against the walls or floor and the battery cells won't be damaged. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted Thursday at 12:27 PM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 12:27 PM 3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: The good thing about power tool batteries is that they are at least (often, always?) protected against physical damage. I am sure I can throw my Bosch power tool batteries against the walls or floor and the battery cells won't be damaged. Would point out the exploding batteries were sitting in trays in the factory, not being charged and undamaged. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted Thursday at 12:28 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:28 PM 10 minutes ago, transam said: It says, charge it....................😂 I bet California is really looking forward to you turning up..........😏 Perth, no idea about the climate there, let us know when you get back.........🤭 “charge it “. Ok, got me. Regardless, I would never own an EV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhendis Posted Thursday at 12:35 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:35 PM 7 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: I can throw my Bosch power tool batteries against the walls or floor Accompanied by colourful language too I expect because something didn't go quite according to plan. Physical damage of that nature rarely causes harm (to the battery). The problem is internal within the battery. If you are interested you might like to Google up "dendrites". They are the enemy but not the only one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted Thursday at 01:28 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:28 PM 51 minutes ago, Muhendis said: If you are interested you might like to Google up "dendrites". Indeed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhendis Posted Friday at 12:10 AM Share Posted Friday at 12:10 AM Well done Ben. Perhaps I should clarify that since we are talking of batteries, the dendrites are also battery related. "Dendrites in batteries: The invisible danger" https://www.qa-group.com/en/glossary/dendrites/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted Friday at 10:05 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 10:05 AM And now: - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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