Popular Post webfact Posted Friday at 11:20 PM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 11:20 PM Picture courtesy: Thai Rath Thaksin Shinawatra, the influential figure behind the Pheu Thai party, was unexpectedly sidelined in a senatorial election, leaving his brother-in-law and former prime minister Somchai Wongsawat outvoted. This surprising turn of events has raised suspicions of internal betrayal within the Pheu Thai ranks. According to Thanaporn Sriyakul of Mahanakorn University of Technology, several senatorial candidates linked to Pheu Thai voted against Somchai in the final stages of the election. These candidates were expected to support Somchai but opted for others at the last moment in a move that appears to be a calculated double-cross. Thaksin had reportedly relied on a network of supposedly loyal wheeler-dealers to secure Somchai’s position in the Senate. The plan was for Somchai to be elected and potentially named Senate speaker. However, this strategy fell apart in the final stretch of the election, which involved complex rounds of voting among candidates rather than direct constituent votes. The election’s final tier consisted of a first round with same-category votes followed by a cross-category voting round. It was in this latter stage that Somchai faced defeat. “It’s hard to imagine a former prime minister close to Thaksin losing without some behind-the-scenes betrayal,” Thanaporn stated, noting that many Pheu Thai-associated candidates seemed to have abandoned their expected alignment. Somchai, who had navigated the district and provincial tiers of the triple-tiered election process with ease, found himself unexpectedly outvoted in the national stage. This loss revealed fractures within the Pheu Thai network and highlighted the influence of covert actors. Thanaporn also pointed out that many of the 200 new senators are believed to be affiliated with the Bhumjaithai Party, led by Newin Chidchob. This clandestine influence from Bhumjaithai has further complicated the political landscape, suggesting that Thaksin’s control over the Pheu Thai-led coalition government may be waning. The academic warned that this outcome could pose significant challenges for Thaksin’s behind-the-scenes manoeuvring, especially in navigating interactions with “independent” agencies like the Constitutional Court and Election Commission, whose members will be appointed by the new senators. As Bhumjaithai secures a dominant position in the Senate, Thaksin may face increasing difficulties in exerting his influence, potentially opening doors for ultra-conservative factions to leverage power in Thailand’s political arena. -- 2024-06-29 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 3 7 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artisi Posted Saturday at 12:55 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 12:55 AM Brilliant move, now the powers need to side-line the recently resurrected from the dead convicted criminal Thaksin from the scene and get on with sorting out the country for the countries benefit and not that of a few individuals. 8 5 4 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoePai Posted Saturday at 01:56 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 01:56 AM Excellent news 6 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted Saturday at 03:11 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 03:11 AM dang! getting so you'e never quite sure who to stab in the back! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guderian Posted Saturday at 05:04 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 05:04 AM A pit of vipers comes to mind. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted Saturday at 05:20 AM Share Posted Saturday at 05:20 AM 4 hours ago, Artisi said: Brilliant move, now the powers need to side-line the recently resurrected from the dead convicted criminal Thaksin from the scene and get on with sorting out the country for the countries benefit and not that of a few individuals. You think these guys will do that......? 5 hours ago, webfact said: potentially opening doors for ultra-conservative factions to leverage power in Thailand’s political arena. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stocky Posted Saturday at 05:23 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 05:23 AM 6 hours ago, webfact said: Thanaporn also pointed out that many of the 200 new senators are believed to be affiliated with the Bhumjaithai Party, led by Newin Chidchob. This clandestine influence from Bhumjaithai has further complicated the political landscape, suggesting that Thaksin’s control over the Pheu Thai-led coalition government may be waning. That's Anutin Charnvirakul mob - not sure that's any better 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mokwit Posted Saturday at 05:27 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 05:27 AM Obviously spent too much time playing with his grandchildren and took his eye off the ball. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jippytum Posted Saturday at 05:35 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 05:35 AM wonderful to see the old fox Thaksin's game plan outmaneuvered on this occasion. 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy one Posted Saturday at 05:52 AM Share Posted Saturday at 05:52 AM Soon new sticky fingers will be busy in the piggy bank 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kuzmabruk Posted Saturday at 05:54 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 05:54 AM I think you people hate Thaksin because he is a billionaire, not because he built AIS, which you all probably use, ran a successful anti-drug campaign during his time as PM, torn down many, but not all, monopolies, and yes of course probably did a few things that weren’t great. You all sound like you actually understand the Thai political landscape. But I think you all have uneducated opinions of Thaksin and the other things you spout about. You should be focusing more on the only thing important right now, and that is your 2024 Thai tax return, due in March 2025. Thailand joins the USA and Eritrea as the only 3 countries in the world to tax you on your global income. And by the way, if you do not disclose everything, and sign the return, that is perjury. Jail time. Lucky for me my Canadian taxes are higher than Thailand’s rates, so I don’t pay Thailand anything from what is left after Canada takes 56% of my income. But you better get ready because this is real and it effects a lot of you. 1 8 1 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JBChiangRai Posted Saturday at 05:59 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 05:59 AM 3 minutes ago, kuzmabruk said: You should be focusing more on the only thing important right now, and that is your 2024 Thai tax return, due in March 2025. Thailand joins the USA and Eritrea as the only 3 countries in the world to tax you on your global income. And by the way, if you do not disclose everything, and sign the return, that is perjury. Jail time. Lucky for me my Canadian taxes are higher than Thailand’s rates, so I don’t pay Thailand anything from what is left after Canada takes 56% of my income. But you better get ready because this is real and it effects a lot of you. The one thing you shouldn’t be doing is filling in a tax return. Nothing has changed for us foreigners, it’s business as usual. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted Saturday at 06:22 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:22 AM 7 hours ago, webfact said: These candidates were expected to support Somchai but opted for others at the last moment in a move that appears to be a calculated double-cross. What goes around comes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted Saturday at 06:25 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:25 AM 3 hours ago, Emdog said: dang! getting so you'e never quite sure who to stab in the back! Always been the same... the guy in front of you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted Saturday at 06:26 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:26 AM 7 hours ago, webfact said: The academic warned that this outcome could pose significant challenges for Thaksin’s behind-the-scenes manoeuvring, especially in navigating interactions with “independent” agencies like the Constitutional Court and Election Commission, whose members will be appointed by the new senators. As Bhumjaithai secures a dominant position in the Senate, Thaksin may face increasing difficulties in exerting his influence, potentially opening doors for ultra-conservative factions to leverage power in Thailand’s political arena Those in power want the power, not bee told what to do by Thaksin... Watch Anutin rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidetrader Posted Saturday at 06:27 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:27 AM 1 hour ago, Stocky said: That's Anutin Charnvirakul mob - not sure that's any better Taksin shxi on his brother in law (Newin CC) big style when he left him mopping up all the mess after the 2nd to last coup ..Newins got a very long memory ,so a case of Som Nam Nar ;) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted Saturday at 06:29 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:29 AM That’s music to my ears sometimes no amount of wealth can buy you a position on the senate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mfd101 Posted Saturday at 06:49 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 06:49 AM 1 hour ago, Stocky said: That's Anutin Charnvirakul mob - not sure that's any better The obvious question (but it may be a silly one in the Thai context) is: Where does Anutin sit on the political spectrum of Left to Right? reform to dinosaur? Or does he belong only on the spectrum of self-interest? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuzmabruk Posted Saturday at 07:03 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:03 AM 1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said: The one thing you shouldn’t be doing is filling in a tax return. Nothing has changed for us foreigners, it’s business as usual. listening to ill informed people can cause you tremendous pain Hi Mark Here is a link to an article we wrote about the new changes starting from 1 Jan 2024. https://www.hlbthai.com/new-rule-for-taxation-of-foreign-income/ When you file your first Thai tax return in April next year, you are allowed to deduct income taxes paid in Canada on income that is taxable in Thailand, pursuant to the provisions of the Double Tax Agreement between Thailand and Canada. Kind regards Paul <Commercial contact details removed per forum rules> Klongtoey, Bangkok 10110 Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john donson Posted Saturday at 07:15 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:15 AM don't worry, they are recounting the votes, or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JBChiangRai Posted Saturday at 07:25 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 07:25 AM (edited) 23 minutes ago, kuzmabruk said: listening to ill informed people can cause you tremendous pain Hi Mark Here is a link to an article we wrote about the new changes starting from 1 Jan 2024. https://www.hlbthai.com/new-rule-for-taxation-of-foreign-income/ When you file your first Thai tax return in April next year, you are allowed to deduct income taxes paid in Canada on income that is taxable in Thailand, pursuant to the provisions of the Double Tax Agreement between Thailand and Canada. Kind regards Paul <Commercial contact details removed per forum rules> Klongtoey, Bangkok 10110 Thailand I am probably more up on the recent changes than you are, I predicted them years ago. It is NOT about us, not yet anyway. Nobody is stopping you being a lemming and registering for a TIN/filling out a tax return, and the RD will love you for it. The changes are there for Thai nationals, yes they do theoretically apply to foreigners, but until they come out and say so, ignore the experts who want to make a dime out of filling in your returns or consultancy fees. The RD are between a rock and a hard place, they can't come out and say it's not farang's we're after because their own citizens will accuse them of favouritism. The best advice, is wait and see what happens, and don't advise others to do it, even if you must. Further, my accountant who does both our company and my tax returns, said do thing, wait and see. Edited Saturday at 07:27 AM by JBChiangRai 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post advancebooking Posted Saturday at 08:06 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 08:06 AM 2 hours ago, kuzmabruk said: I think you people hate Thaksin because he is a billionaire, not because he built AIS, which you all probably use, ran a successful anti-drug campaign during his time as PM, torn down many, but not all, monopolies, and yes of course probably did a few things that weren’t great. You all sound like you actually understand the Thai political landscape. But I think you all have uneducated opinions of Thaksin and the other things you spout about. You should be focusing more on the only thing important right now, and that is your 2024 Thai tax return, due in March 2025. Thailand joins the USA and Eritrea as the only 3 countries in the world to tax you on your global income. And by the way, if you do not disclose everything, and sign the return, that is perjury. Jail time. Lucky for me my Canadian taxes are higher than Thailand’s rates, so I don’t pay Thailand anything from what is left after Canada takes 56% of my income. But you better get ready because this is real and it effects a lot of you. I think the thai revenue department are incompetent and cannot even tax their own citizens let alone next years rules. Personally I will ignore the hype and not report it. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElwoodP Posted Saturday at 08:24 AM Share Posted Saturday at 08:24 AM Post that was just links removed. You must summarise/explain any links you provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted Saturday at 08:40 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 08:40 AM 2 hours ago, kuzmabruk said: I think you people hate Thaksin because he is a billionaire, not because he built AIS, which you all probably use, ran a successful anti-drug campaign during his time as PM, Ah, yes, the anti-drug campaign and all of its manifestations. I don't think this is something I would be proud of. 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted Saturday at 08:43 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 08:43 AM Amazing how Khun Tony has stepped back from Death's Door and now has the energy and vitality to conduct business and politics like a man 10 years younger. Praise Buddha! 🙏🙏🙏 It's a miracle! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted Saturday at 08:54 AM Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 08:54 AM 2 hours ago, kuzmabruk said: I think you people hate Thaksin because he is a billionaire, not because he built AIS, which you all probably use, ran a successful anti-drug campaign during his time as PM, torn down many, but not all, monopolies, and yes of course probably did a few things that weren’t great. You all sound like you actually understand the Thai political landscape. But I think you all have uneducated opinions of Thaksin and the other things you spout about. You should be focusing more on the only thing important right now, and that is your 2024 Thai tax return, due in March 2025. Thailand joins the USA and Eritrea as the only 3 countries in the world to tax you on your global income. And by the way, if you do not disclose everything, and sign the return, that is perjury. Jail time. Lucky for me my Canadian taxes are higher than Thailand’s rates, so I don’t pay Thailand anything from what is left after Canada takes 56% of my income. But you better get ready because this is real and it effects a lot of you. Must be a candidate for dumbest post of the year to date. Thaksin had countless innocents shot during the so-called war on drugs, and ran away to escape a jail sentence. The word 'creep' comes to mind. Revisions to the tax regime remain stuck at the proposal stage, and may yet never happen. 1 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunter Posted Saturday at 09:10 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:10 AM (edited) Reminds me of a ''shark feeding frenzy. Oh what a web we weave when we practice to deceive.'' The quote describes the destructive consequences of lies and the impact on peoples lives. Edited Saturday at 09:16 AM by shunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted Saturday at 10:41 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:41 AM 5 hours ago, Stocky said: That's Anutin Charnvirakul mob - not sure that's any better Way better.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM 13 hours ago, mokwit said: Obviously spent too much time playing with his grandchildren and took his eye off the ball. And of course his deathly serious illnesses obviously precluded him from being able to keep up well enough... poor guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericthai Posted Saturday at 08:25 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:25 PM 11 hours ago, Thingamabob said: Must be a candidate for dumbest post of the year to date. Thaksin had countless innocents shot during the so-called war on drugs, and ran away to escape a jail sentence. The word 'creep' comes to mind. Revisions to the tax regime remain stuck at the proposal stage, and may yet never happen. Let me make a correction. Thaksin didn't run away he was in New York for a UN meeting when the coup took place. When the coup happened there was no jail sentence waiting for him. Also, I wouldn't say "so-called war on drugs", it was a war on drugs, a reckless war with allot of innocent people being killed in a very short time period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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