Trump's Vision for 2025: A Sweeping Crackdown on Immigration

[Tug]

12 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

The laws are in place.  We do not need Immigration reform.  We need a leader that believes in his oath, not a lying for over 50 years, old ass Dictator wanna be.  The border was mostly secure before Biden got in.  He passed dictatorial executive orders (90) to over turn everything Trump did to secure the border.  Open your eyes.  

Ahhh nooo that’s what that immigration reform you know the bi partisan one that the felon killed so he would have something to frighten the gullible with remember?

[Luuk Chaai]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

You can't fine hotels and shelters you are contracting and paying to house illegal aliens. 

 

They need to be counted as illegal aliens in the census. 

 

Sanctuary cities should not receive any federal funding. 

then stop contracting them

yeah count them as criminals 

[mokwit]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Highlighted comment in your post is sufficient; atypical MAGA comment.

Your tortoise tactic again. If someone asks you to defend your position you retreat like a tortoise into its shell and just shout accusations of "MAGA"

 and Far Right at them from the inside of your shell.

 

How is this a 'typical MAGA comment'? What other things do you think I believe based on the fact that I see the SPLC as a money raising organisation and politically motivated first?

 

There was an article written by somebody who worked there explaining how SPLC was not what it purported to be (and not what you seem to think it is think it is). I am sure there are some people there doing fine work against injustice, but it labels anything it doesn't like as "hate".

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2018/11/08/feature/is-the-southern-poverty-law-center-judging-hate-fairly/?utm_term=.50e97a7a3932&itid=lk_inline_manual_77

 

What it was really about was fundraising and living well off that.

 

https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114425/documents/HHRG-117-JU08-20220217-SD016.pdf

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/years-of-turmoil-and-complaints-led-the-southern-poverty-law-center-to-fire-its-founder-morris-dees/2019/04/05/58717bfc-50fa-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html

 

'The nonprofit apologized in 2015 after calling Ben Carson an extremist. Three years later, it apologized for including the former British politician Maajid Nawaz, a Muslim and a known critic of Islamic extremism, in a publication called “A Journalist’s Manual: Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists,” and agreed to a $3.4 million settlement with Nawaz’s foundation. The organization has also been dogged by questions, including from former employees, about whether it has been focused on fundraising at the expense of work that would further its mission.

'

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-reckoning-of-morris-dees-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center

 

Obviously there are some biased right wing outlets in the links below which must be treated with the same scepticism as one would show for the NYT and Guardian.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=southern+poverty+law+center+scam&client=firefox-b-e&sca_esv=7ea2f44d9ad24d06&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIJoWRHXhoxOM4uoNK6Et8LewuCscA%3A1720319883825&ei=i_-JZriEMuWY4-EPvZq-mAk&ved=0ahUKEwj49cz88pOHAxVlzDgGHT2ND5MQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=southern+poverty+law+center+scam&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiIHNvdXRoZXJuIHBvdmVydHkgbGF3IGNlbnRlciBzY2FtSJgTUPoGWKEOcAF4AJABAJgBbKAB5AKqAQMzLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgOgAqoCwgIKECMYgAQYJxiKBcICBRAAGIAEwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAg4QABiABBiRAhjHAxiKBcICCBAAGIAEGKIEwgIIEAAYogQYiQWYAwCIBgGSBwMyLjGgB9MN&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=southern+poverty+law+center+discredited&client=firefox-b-e&sca_esv=7ea2f44d9ad24d06&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIIKSIyLb9R1XunIz-C9H1OJqgFVug%3A1720320150081&ei=lgCKZvbSBKCs4-EPwai0mAI&ved=0ahUKEwj29cf785OHAxUg1jgGHUEUDSMQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=southern+poverty+law+center+discredited&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJ3NvdXRoZXJuIHBvdmVydHkgbGF3IGNlbnRlciBkaXNjcmVkaXRlZEjRwAVQnI4FWLK3BXAEeACQAQCYAWmgAYkLqgEEMTQuMrgBA8gBAPgBAZgCBqACrwPCAgoQIxiABBgnGIoFwgIOEAAYgAQYkQIYxwMYigXCAggQABiABBiiBMICBRAAGIAEwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAggQABiiBBiJBcICBBAjGCfCAggQABiABBjHA8ICFBAuGIAEGJECGNEDGMcDGMcBGIoFmAMAiAYBkgcDNS4xoAeRLA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

[Chomper Higgot]

13 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

And you prefer to keep the border open. 

 

As long as they get subsidies, and want to keep the border open, they'll vote left. 

 

Notice how quick the Cubans get sent back...

Remind me, who was it who blocked the border security bill?

[stoner]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Remind me, who was it who blocked the border security bill?

 

remind me who in their first day in office reversed some of trumps immigration policies ? waaaaaaay before your gotcha question on the border bill. 

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Your tortoise tactic again. If someone asks you to defend your position you retreat like a tortoise into its shell and just shout accusations of "MAGA"

 and Far Right at them from the inside of your shell.

 

How is this a 'typical MAGA comment'? What other things do you think I believe based on the fact that I see the SPLC as a money raising organisation and politically motivated first?

 

There was an article written by somebody who worked there explaining how SPLC was not what it purported to be (and not what you seem to think it is think it is). I am sure there are some people there doing fine work against injustice, but it labels anything it doesn't like as "hate".

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2018/11/08/feature/is-the-southern-poverty-law-center-judging-hate-fairly/?utm_term=.50e97a7a3932&itid=lk_inline_manual_77

 

What it was really about was fundraising and living well off that.

 

https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114425/documents/HHRG-117-JU08-20220217-SD016.pdf

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/years-of-turmoil-and-complaints-led-the-southern-poverty-law-center-to-fire-its-founder-morris-dees/2019/04/05/58717bfc-50fa-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html

 

'The nonprofit apologized in 2015 after calling Ben Carson an extremist. Three years later, it apologized for including the former British politician Maajid Nawaz, a Muslim and a known critic of Islamic extremism, in a publication called “A Journalist’s Manual: Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists,” and agreed to a $3.4 million settlement with Nawaz’s foundation. The organization has also been dogged by questions, including from former employees, about whether it has been focused on fundraising at the expense of work that would further its mission.

'

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-reckoning-of-morris-dees-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center

 

Obviously there are some biased right wing outlets in the links below which must be treated with the same scepticism as one would show for the NYT and Guardian.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=southern+poverty+law+center+scam&client=firefox-b-e&sca_esv=7ea2f44d9ad24d06&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIJoWRHXhoxOM4uoNK6Et8LewuCscA%3A1720319883825&ei=i_-JZriEMuWY4-EPvZq-mAk&ved=0ahUKEwj49cz88pOHAxVlzDgGHT2ND5MQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=southern+poverty+law+center+scam&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiIHNvdXRoZXJuIHBvdmVydHkgbGF3IGNlbnRlciBzY2FtSJgTUPoGWKEOcAF4AJABAJgBbKAB5AKqAQMzLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgOgAqoCwgIKECMYgAQYJxiKBcICBRAAGIAEwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAg4QABiABBiRAhjHAxiKBcICCBAAGIAEGKIEwgIIEAAYogQYiQWYAwCIBgGSBwMyLjGgB9MN&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=southern+poverty+law+center+discredited&client=firefox-b-e&sca_esv=7ea2f44d9ad24d06&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIIKSIyLb9R1XunIz-C9H1OJqgFVug%3A1720320150081&ei=lgCKZvbSBKCs4-EPwai0mAI&ved=0ahUKEwj29cf785OHAxUg1jgGHUEUDSMQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=southern+poverty+law+center+discredited&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJ3NvdXRoZXJuIHBvdmVydHkgbGF3IGNlbnRlciBkaXNjcmVkaXRlZEjRwAVQnI4FWLK3BXAEeACQAQCYAWmgAYkLqgEEMTQuMrgBA8gBAPgBAZgCBqACrwPCAgoQIxiABBgnGIoFwgIOEAAYgAQYkQIYxwMYigXCAggQABiABBiiBMICBRAAGIAEwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAggQABiiBBiJBcICBBAjGCfCAggQABiABBjHA8ICFBAuGIAEGJECGNEDGMcDGMcBGIoFmAMAiAYBkgcDNS4xoAeRLA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

When the SPLC attracts the vitriol laced ire of the ‘Alliance Defending Freedom’ and the ‘Heritage Foundation’ I know they are doing something right.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

remind me who in their first day in office reversed some of trumps immigration policies ? waaaaaaay before your gotcha question on the border bill. 

And very rightly so.

 

The Federal Government engaging in child snatching needed to end.

 

You have my commiserations that ending it deprived you of your performative cruelty fix.

[stoner]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

And very rightly so.

 

The Federal Government engaging in child snatching needed to end.

 

You have my commiserations that ending it deprived you of your performative cruelty fix.

 

you really are a piece of work eh. what a filth comment to make to someone. i should report you for it but i accept all speech. you are a disgusting baiter. expected though. 

 

i was more speaking about the remain in mexico policy and the wall. which i should note has been in the process of being built for many presidents. but dont let that stop you from your usual racist fascist talk. 

 

i was right about biden and i am right about the election. which i was telling you for months on end. 

 

remember ?

[mokwit]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

When the SPLC attracts the vitriol laced ire of the ‘Alliance Defending Freedom’ and the ‘Heritage Foundation’ I know they are doing something right.

 

It seems the SPLC are cut from the same cloth.

'

[N]othing was more uncomfortable than the racial dynamic that quickly became
apparent: a fair number of what was then about a hundred employees were African-
American, but almost all of them were administrative and support staff—“the help,” one
of my black colleagues said pointedly. The “professional staff”—the lawyers, researchers,
educators, public-relations officers, and fund-raisers—were almost exclusively white'

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/years-of-turmoil-and-complaints-led-the-southern-poverty-law-center-to-fire-its-founder-morris-dees/2019/04/05/58717bfc-50fa-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html

 

 

https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/109266/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20190409-SD022.pdf

 

[Rimmer]

Some off topic bickering and baiting posts and replies have been removed, please stop this pointless bickering exchange, thank you.

[morrobay]

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Stop lying. I never said that I support open borders.

Ok but you support the democrats and VP Harris the border czar. Gotcha.  https://www.blackburn.senate.gov/2022/1/biden-harris-border-policies-are-enabling-human-trafficking

[impulse]

51 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Remind me, who was it who blocked the border security bill?

 

The Dem led senate won't even debate HR.2, which is the immigration bill that passed the Repub led house.  So I'd say it's the Dems blocking the border security bill.

 

And it doesn't allow 5000 illegals a day like that "bipartisan" disaster that was DOA with or without Trump's input.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And very rightly so.

 

The Federal Government engaging in child snatching needed to end.
 

You have my commiserations that ending it deprived you of your performative cruelty fix.

 

Strange thing about "putting kids in cages".  It kept them safe from predators and child traffickers.

 

Reports show the government lost track of 85,000 migrant children, and some of those children may have been forced into labor in the U.S.

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/19/1170802333/congressional-lawmakers-raise-concerns-about-the-welfare-of-migrant-children

 

Maybe AOC should cry for the 85,000 kids they've "misplaced"

 

 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Strange thing about "putting kids in cages".  It kept them safe from predators and child traffickers.

 

Reports show the government lost track of 85,000 migrant children, and some of those children may have been forced into labor in the U.S.

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/19/1170802333/congressional-lawmakers-raise-concerns-about-the-welfare-of-migrant-children

 

Maybe AOC should cry for the 85,000 kids they've "misplaced"

 

 

 

 

 

I expect AOC doesn’t get her information from the same don’t as you do, not indeed the misinformation you rely upon.

 

https://publicintegrity.org/inequality-poverty-opportunity/immigration/gop-film-sound-of-freedom-misleading-migrant-kids/

[impulse]

23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I expect AOC doesn’t get her information from the same don’t as you do, not indeed the misinformation you rely upon.

 

https://publicintegrity.org/inequality-poverty-opportunity/immigration/gop-film-sound-of-freedom-misleading-migrant-kids/

 

I got mine from NPR, which you may recall, has 100% Dems on staff.  87 registered Dems and zero (count 'em zero) registered Repubs.  Pretty tough to call that one right wing misinformation.

 

https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 7 by impulse

[impulse]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

Ahhh nooo that’s what that immigration reform you know the bi partisan one that the felon killed so he would have something to frighten the gullible with remember?

 

So riddle me this.  If border security was so important to Dems, why didn't they go back and recraft the DOA bill, removing contentious stuff like the money for Ukraine and Israel (which were decided by separate votes)?  And the 5000 illegals per day that doomed the bill, with or without Trump's input.

 

Or would they prefer to leave the borders wide open and have something to beat up on Trump with.  Win-win for election year Dems.  We can make Trump look like the bad guy AND keep importing future Dem voters and cheap labor for our donors.

 

And why won't the Dem led senate even take up HR.2, the immigration bill that was passed by the Repub led house?

 

They'd rather beat Trump than protect the country.

Edited July 7 by impulse

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I got mine from NPR, which you may recall, has 100% Dems on staff.  87 registered Dems and zero (count 'em zero) registered Repubs.  Pretty tough to call that one right wing misinformation.

 

https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust

 

 

 

 

 

You made a claim without a link.

 

I simply provided a link that debunks your claim.

[Yellowtail]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Remind me, who was it who blocked the border security bill?

You mean the bill designed to process illegals in and get them benefits more quickly? I give up, who? 

 

You support open borders, always have. 

[impulse]

15 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You made a claim without a link.

 

I simply provided a link that debunks your claim.

 

I'm pretty sure I left a link.  I even went out of my way to make sure my link was to a lefty source, lest I be accused of linking only to right wing nonsense.  With 10x as many registered Dems as Repubs in journalism, it's tough to find lefty sources that don't parrot the narrative.  You lefties don't appreciate how easy you have it, compared to any conservative that needs a link that won't be deleted because it's "not an approved source".

 

Edit:  As if the "approved" MSM hasn't been lying to us for years, recently exposed in undisputable detail.

 

Edited July 8 by impulse

[riclag]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

I'm pretty sure I left a link.  I even went out of my way to make sure my link was to a lefty source, lest I be accused of linking only to right wing nonsense.  With 10x as many registered Dems as Repubs in journalism, it's tough to find lefty sources that don't parrot the narrative.  You lefties don't appreciate how easy you have it, compared to any conservative that needs a link that won't be deleted because it's "not an approved source".

 

Edit:  As if the "approved" MSM hasn't been lying to us for years, recently exposed in undisputable detail.

 

You stole my thunder! I was thinking about creating a thread in the new Psandbox ! Cutting through the maze

to find unbiased news reports through

googles   algorithms..

[Yellowtail]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I'm pretty sure I left a link.  I even went out of my way to make sure my link was to a lefty source, lest I be accused of linking only to right wing nonsense.  With 10x as many registered Dems as Repubs in journalism, it's tough to find lefty sources that don't parrot the narrative.  You lefties don't appreciate how easy you have it, compared to any conservative that needs a link that won't be deleted because it's "not an approved source".

 

Edit:  As if the "approved" MSM hasn't been lying to us for years, recently exposed in undisputable detail.

 

Notice how when the have "Republican" guests, they all think Biden is great and hate Trump?