Just now, JonnyF said:

 

These are facts.

 

Labour has taken a week to demonstrate that they will make things much worse.

 

Brit haters must be loving this. 

Not quite a week and no evidence of making things worse, let alone much worse.

 

Already Labour have cut hundreds of £millions that would have been handed to Rwanda for the failed asylum seeker exchange scheme; money than can now be put towards clearing to backlog of asylum seekers left by the Tories.

 

Clear the back log, release successful applicants into the community where they can work, earn their own keep and pay taxes, deport the bogus claimants.

 

Great to see Labour are already on it in under a week

What a positive change that is.

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

These are facts.

 

Labour has taken a week to demonstrate that they will make things much worse.

 

Brit haters must be loving this. 

‘Brit haters’?

 

What on earth are you on about?

 

 

43 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

20% of the electorate voted for this.   80% didn't.   

Count the MP seats in parliament that each party secured.

 

Eventually you’ll work it out.

 

 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Count the MO seats in parliament that each party secured.

 

Eventually you’ll work it out.

 

I was responding to a post that suggested that people voted for this and it is factually correct to state that 20% of people voted for it.  

 

If you read the post I was responding to you will work it out... eventually.   

9 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

I was responding to a post that suggested that people voted for this and it is factually correct to state that 20% of people voted for it.  

 

If you read the post I was responding to you will work it out... eventually.   

It doesn’t matter , the majority of people who voted did so for Labour.

 

 

My GF just asked me why I was annoyed about the Labour party winning. 

 

I told her to wash my car for 200 Baht. She worked hard and did a great job. I paid her the 200, then took 180 Baht straight back and gave it to the woman next door who sits on her butt all day every day doing nothing. 

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It doesn’t matter , the majority of people who voted did so for Labour.

 

That is patently false.   The majority of people who voted did not vote for Labour as they received only 34% of the vote of a 59% turnout.   Maths is somewhat difficult for you I presume?

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

My GF just asked me why I was annoyed about the Labour party winning. 

 

I told her to wash my car for 200 Baht. She worked hard and did a great job. I paid her the 200, then took 180 Baht straight back and gave it to the woman next door who sits on her butt all day every day doing nothing. 

It could have been worse, you could have given a load of cash to an old school chum for nothing in return, and told your gf she’s got to pay it back over the next twenty five years, and in the meantime she’s getting no money for health care.

4 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

That is patently false.   The majority of people who voted did not vote for Labour as they received only 34% of the vote of a 59% turnout.   Maths is somewhat difficult for you I presume?

My bad.

 

FPTP has delivered a Government with a secure majority.

 

Such outcomes were never a problem until the beneficiary was a Labour Government.

 

 

For all those who support asylum for people with fake claims, what is the benefit to the UK population of taking these people?

 

Note: the answer: "Compassionate grounds" only applies to genuine asylum seekers who are genuinely at risk of serious persecution/unjust imprisonment/murder.

1 minute ago, mokwit said:

For all those who support asylum for people with fake claims, what is the benefit to the UK population of taking these people?

 

Note: the answer: "Compassionate grounds" only applies to genuine asylum seekers who are genuinely at risk of serious persecution/unjust imprisonment/murder.

Who “supports asylum for people with fake claims?”

 

I have never once seen anyone on this forum support fake asylum claims.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

It's not cheap making Liberals feel good about themselves.

 

Providing migrants with hotel rooms, 3 meals a day, NHS access, Wifi etc. all adds up.

 

Meanwhile the people paying the taxes to pay for it are struggling to make ends meet. Veterans are living on the streets. 

 

Lefties, selling out their own citizens. Nothing new. 

You are hilarious. You're either a troll or just the most blinkered right winger I've ever come across.

You do know the Tories were in power for the last 14 years, right? Or are you saying that in the five days since they took power Labour have kicked veterans out on to the street? Were all these veterans living in gold plated houses and drinking champagne less than a week ago? Their 14 year period of living the highlife has come to a sudden end, poor vets.

Deluded.

9 minutes ago, mokwit said:

For all those who support asylum for people with fake claims, what is the benefit to the UK population of taking these people?

 

No benefit to the UK population as a whole. Unless you like less available housing, less school places, longer NHS waits, more intolerance/homophobia, higher taxes, lower salaries.

 

It makes Liberals feel good about themselves though. That's the main thing. 

6 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

You are hilarious. You're either a troll or just the most blinkered right winger I've ever come across.

You do know the Tories were in power for the last 14 years, right? Or are you saying that in the five days since they took power Labour have kicked veterans out on to the street? Were all these veterans living in gold plated houses and drinking champagne less than a week ago? Their 14 year period of living the highlife has come to a sudden end, poor vets.

Deluded.

 

Maybe you haven't read the thread before commenting.

 

I already said the Tories did a poor job. Labour will make it a whole lot worse.

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Maybe you haven't read the thread before commenting.

 

I already said the Tories did a poor job. Labour will make it a whole lot worse.

Yes, and you said:

"Meanwhile the people paying the taxes to pay for it are struggling to make ends meet. Veterans are living on the streets. 

 

Lefties, selling out their own citizens. Nothing new."

....implying it is the "lefties" who are responsible for the disastrous mess the tories left the country in.

56 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

release successful applicants into the community where they can work, earn their own keep and pay taxes

 

I think you meant "where, having no marketable skills, they can live of social security for the rest of their lives, supplementing their income from the state with muggings and robbery, avoiding taxes by working cash-in-hand whilst many also planning Islamic terrorist attacks".

 

Already 19% of the population in Britain is non-white.  And what have they contributed to society? Very little good, well apart from "Indian" restaurants.  Think of such poisonous individuals such as Rishi Sunak, Sajid Javid, Priti Patel, Alok Sharma, James Cleverly, Kwasi Kwarteng, Suella Braverman, Nadhim Zahawi, Kemi Badenoch, Ranil Jayawardena (all of them recent Tory ministers).  They have done terrible damage to the UK and should be deported at the first possible opportunity.

4 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Yes, and you said:

"Meanwhile the people paying the taxes to pay for it are struggling to make ends meet. Veterans are living on the streets. 

 

Lefties, selling out their own citizens. Nothing new."

....implying it is the "lefties" who are responsible for the disastrous mess the tories left the country in.

 

Lefties just made it a whole lot worse. 

 

That's the third time I have clarified. I hope you don't need a fourth. 

1 minute ago, Foxx said:

 

I think you meant "where, having no marketable skills, they can live of social security for the rest of their lives, supplementing their income from the state with muggings and robbery, avoiding taxes by working cash-in-hand".

 

Already 19% of the population in Britain is non-white.  And what have they contributed to society? Very little good, well apart from "Indian" restaurants.  Think of such poisonous individuals such as Rishi Sunak, Sajid Javid, Priti Patel, Alok Sharma, James Cleverly, Kwasi Kwarteng, Suella Braverman, Nadhim Zahawi, Kemi Badenoch, Ranil Jayawardena (all of them recent Tory ministers).  They have done terrible damage to the UK and should be deported at the first possible opportunity.

Pure wildly generalized pejorative assumptions.

 

No need to blame asylum seekers for the corruption and mendacity of a few Tories.

 

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Lefties just made it a whole lot worse. 

 

That's the third time I have clarified. I hope you don't need a fourth. 

How so.

 

Until last week the Tories were doing nothing about the backlog of asylum seekers while handing hundreds of £millions to Rwanda .

 

This week Labour are dealing with the backlog and have put an end to the hugely expensive and failed Rwanda asylum seeker exchange scheme.

All positive changes and kicked off in under a week.

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

How so.

 

Until last week the Tories were doing nothing about the backlog of asylum seekers while handing hundreds of £millions to Rwanda .

 

This week Labour are dealing with the backlog and have put an end to the hugely expensive and failed Rwanda asylum seeker exchange scheme.

All positive changes and kicked off in under a week.

 

Instead of deporting them, he is allowing them to stay.

 

What a great message to send out. Thousands more will be planning the dangerous trip after this message. More drownings, more suffering, more human trafficking to get to the promised land of benefits and handouts.

 

And all to make Liberals feel good about themselves at the expense of the British taxpayer.

 

Shameful stuff. 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

It's not cheap making Liberals feel good about themselves.

 

Providing migrants with hotel rooms, 3 meals a day, NHS access, Wifi etc. all adds up.

 

Meanwhile the people paying the taxes to pay for it are struggling to make ends meet. Veterans are living on the streets. 

 

Lefties, selling out their own citizens. Nothing new. 

I think you'll find the Tories did that dopey

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

Instead of deporting them, he is allowing them to stay.

 

What a great message to send out. Thousands more will be planning the dangerous trip after this message. More drownings, more suffering, more human trafficking to get to the promised land of benefits and handouts.

 

And all to make Liberals feel good about themselves at the expense of the British taxpayer.

 

Shameful stuff. 

They are going to process them something the Tories wouldn't do , you are rather slow aren't you.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Clear the back log, release successful applicants into the community where they can work, earn their own keep and pay taxes, deport the bogus claimants.

We have whole groups that are not doing that. Somalians for example just don't function in British society, whether by choice or inability. The rate of unemployment amongst British Muslims is very high - from memory something like 60% of males and 70% of females.

 

In 2016 most of the 800,000 "refugees" accepted into Germany were found to be functionally illiterate in their own language. Of 1.2m processed (from memory) around 40 were "Doctors" and in Sweden they found that the level of knowledge was way below that required to function as a Doctor in Sweden.

 

Every night the German state news led with a story about how an Afghan immigrant had GOT A JOB! No talk of all the others that hadn't and had expected to be handed the 3 bedroom detached house 2 car European lifestyle on arrival. They have no idea what effort and level of qualification and skill is required to achieve and maintain that lifestyle and are unlikely to achieve it - meanwhile the media says how this refugee wants to train to be a Doctor, as if being at that level and putting in the effort to get that qualification was something anybody could do (I doubt that I could have and I am a tertiary/professional Native Speaker). there are no highly paid no skills jobs.

 

The reality is young unemployed men hanging around in gangs, but the MSM doesn't show that.

Just now, Black arab said:

I think you'll find the Tories did that dopey

 

The Tories were trying to deport them you tard. 

 

Labour just gave them a free pass. The next batch just rubbed their hands together and handed thousands to the human trafficking gangs. More drownings and suffering. 

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pure wildly generalized pejorative assumptions.

Yet in the face of such statistics as:

 

"Muslims face some of the lowest employment rates and lowest earnings of any group in Britain"

 

"Muslim women have particularly low rates of economic activity and there is a high incidence of household poverty, which reaches 50% for Muslim households compared with a national average of around 18%"

 

"in the case of poverty, statistical analysis shows that the proportion of households in poverty was 16 points higher among Muslims compared with Anglicans of the same age, generational status, educational level, marital status and region of residence in Britain"

"levels of economic activity for women aged 19-60 (excluding full-time students) were 31% for Pakistani women and 21% for Bangladeshi women ...  and 77% for White women"

 

it's clearly not "wildly generalized (sic) pejorative assumptions."

 

All quotes from the UK Parliament website https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/65005/html/

 

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Instead of deporting them, he is allowing them to stay.

 

What a great message to send out. Thousands more will be planning the dangerous trip after this message. More drownings, more suffering, more human trafficking to get to the promised land of benefits and handouts.

 

And all to make Liberals feel good about themselves at the expense of the British taxpayer.

 

Shameful stuff. 

No he hasn’t.

 

The Labour Government are going to process the claims in accordance with the law.

 

Which is a positive change from the Tories failing to process claims and leaving both genuine and bogus asylum seekers sitting in limbo at tax payers expense.

 

 

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

The Tories were trying to deport them you tard. 

 

Labour just gave them a free pass. The next batch just rubbed their hands together and handed thousands to the human trafficking gangs. More drownings and suffering. 

Yet more false claims.

 

Nobody has been given a free pass.

 

6 minutes ago, Foxx said:

Yet in the face of such statistics as:

 

"Muslims face some of the lowest employment rates and lowest earnings of any group in Britain"

 

"Muslim women have particularly low rates of economic activity and there is a high incidence of household poverty, which reaches 50% for Muslim households compared with a national average of around 18%"

 

"in the case of poverty, statistical analysis shows that the proportion of households in poverty was 16 points higher among Muslims compared with Anglicans of the same age, generational status, educational level, marital status and region of residence in Britain"

"levels of economic activity for women aged 19-60 (excluding full-time students) were 31% for Pakistani women and 21% for Bangladeshi women ...  and 77% for White women"

 

it's clearly not "wildly generalized (sic) pejorative assumptions."

 

All quotes from the UK Parliament website https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/65005/html/

 

Oh, now your on your Muslim thing.

 

We should have a thread on that.

This is great news. The UK needs as many low and no skilled workers as they can get. Hopefully, they never assimilate and start acting like Englishmen. 

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oh, now your on your Muslim thing.

 

We should have a thread on that.

He seems to be just pointing out some facts from the UK Parliament website. Considering the number of Muslims who are "asylum" seekers and their either unwillingness or inability to integrate I think this should be scrutinised. Also they bring their belief system with them and refuse to adapt to ours. A woman walking around uncovered in Europe is not "up for it."

 

They are here [Europe/nominally/Historically Christian countries] on a Hijra [conquest by migration]. Europe is the new land of the Muslim, it has been gifted to the Muslim by Allah apparently, and as for drowning, if you die migrating in order to spread Islam you get the same deal as dying in battle.

 

Many of us are reluctant to pay the price for the foolishness (or power lust) of our fellows. Islam as it is now, is not the Islam of even two decades ago.